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Tadashi wrote: I dare you to proclaim that during the Great Crusade.
The Horus Heresy is boring anyway-- it's already decided, already written to death (it's what, the third re-write now?), and it's long since been overdone to the point of being yawn-inducing. The real fun of 40k comes after the Horus heresy, not during it. So I couldn't care less.
Tadashi wrote: Tell that to the Grey Knights - I'd bet a million dollars that even Inquisitors "the Emperor's Will Incarnate" who sneak into the Citadel of Titan without permission would get shot on sight. And even if they did get permission, I dare them to try and enter the Chamber of Purity at the base of Mt. Anarch
And? There are places that the Inquisition owns that a Grey Knight would be killed for trying to enter just as easily. Just because the base is secure doesn't make them the Emperor's closest servants.
But you know what? If a Living Saint wanted access to the Chamber of Purity, the Grey Knights wouldn't be able to stop them. They probably wouldn't even try-- Living Saints are literally the physical embodiment of the Emperor's will. To deny a Living Saint is to deny the Emperor Himself. Even ignoring that (Living Saints are extremely rare, and there's really no reason why they'd want to go to the Chamber of Purity anyway, there's far more important things for them to do than visit that particular base), the founders of the Sisters of Battle actually had an audience with the Emperor-- the last recorded audience in Imperial history. They have His blessings, and are granted His miracles, a connection to the Emperor that Space Marines do not have.
I wouldn't ever deny that Space Marines have superior biology. But a boltgun or chainsword will still kill them all the same. Exceptional "mere humans" can accomplish as much as any Astartes can. The Sisters of Battle are, in their entirety, exceptional humans. The fact that Space Marines themselves regard Sisters as equals says volumes to this extent. Sisters are merely human-- and yet, merely human is a deceptive phrase, for there is nothing mere about those mortals.
To bring this little rant back on topic, Space Marines exist out of tradition. The Emperor wanted to make them his primary elite forces, but they betrayed him. Despite the collective betrayal of the Astartes, enough Marines stayed loyal to justify their continued existence to the Imperium, after the reorganization via the Codex Astartes in order to ensure that they did not have a good chance to create a second Horus Heresy. The Imperium tolerates them out of tradition and usefulness.
Most of the time, the Imperial Guard. and the various PDFs.
The Imperial Guard and the various PDFs win more battles for the Imperium every year than the entirety of the Astartes win in a thousand years. As for ghostbusters themselves, they're closer to low-level Inquisitorial agents than Astartes.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
But you know what? If a Living Saint wanted access to the Chamber of Purity, the Grey Knights wouldn't be able to stop them. They probably wouldn't even try-- Living Saints are literally the physical embodiment of the Emperor's will.
Actually, they would.
"Only the Chapter's Grand Masters are permitted to enter these halls unbidden." - p.31 Codex: Grey Knights
Short of the Emperor personally (or maybe Malcador the Sigillite), the Purifiers would steadfastly kill anything or anyone else that tried to enter the Chamber. And besides, Living Saints work alongside the Ecclesiarchy and the Ordo Hereticus rather than the Ordo Malleus. Who are far more ruthless than either...I believe I had this discussion before, though I can't remember which thread. The Ecclesiarchy and the Ordo Hereticus decide whether or not a person is a Saint, but I'm willing to bet that if the Ordo Malleus oversaw the examination, they'd find a link to the Warp. In which case, say goodbye - its either a firing squad or the fire. Or just a bolt round to the head and a cover up by the Daemon Hunters.
They have His blessings, and are granted His miracles, a connection to the Emperor that Space Marines do not have.
No, but the Space Marines have the Emperor's blood in their veins, especially the Grey Knights. As they say, blood is thicker than water.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.'
yes yes we know the IG , PDFs and all those types win more battles and wars..since they are in those wars..they also lose more wars as well..its all part of the 40k ball of war.
and as to respect to the Ghostbusters they did banish a ancient god.....not alot of "low level inquistorial agents " have that in their portfolio..
and as to respect to the Ghostbusters they did banish a ancient god.....not alot of "low level inquistorial agents " have that in their portfolio..
Specialists answering directly to the Lord Inquisitors would be more fitting.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.'
THen they would probably be killed. Living Saints are the embodiment of the Emperor's will, and the Emperor is far more powerful than any mere Grey Knight. If he wishes to send the Living Saint in, then they will get in. In fact, they could probably get in without the Grey Knights even noticing-- unless the Emperor desired them to notice.
Tadashi wrote: Living Saints work alongside the Ecclesiarchy and the Ordo Hereticus
Also the Imperial Guard. Also the High Lord of Terra. Also the Administratum. Also the Adeptus Astartes, the Adeptus Arbites, and plenty of other adeptus as well.
Living Saints are symbols of hope and victory for ALL of the Imperium's servants-- and that is all that Grey Knights are, merely servants of the Emperor. The first Saint Sabbat commanded several companies of Astartes, uncounted numbers of Imperial Guard, and the zealous legions of the Ecclesiarchy, and Sisters of Battle as well.
Tadashi wrote: The Ecclesiarchy and the Ordo Hereticus decide whether or not a person is a Saint
Whether or not a being is officially declared a saint or living saint is irrelevant to whether or not they actually are.
Tadashi wrote: but I'm willing to bet that if the Ordo Malleus oversaw the examination they'd find a link to the Warp. In which case, say goodbye - its either a firing squad or the fire. Or just a bolt round to the head and a cover up by the Daemon Hunters.
And then, when the firing squad is unable to kill them because of the Emperor's divine intervention, or the bolter round refuses to fire, or the fires do not burn them, the Inquisitor would likely reconsider. Or, for that matter, the Inquisitor themselves would probably be killed for themselves being a heretic-- the Ordo Malleus has its own problems with radicals and heretics in its ranks, after all, no matter how much you might try to claim otherwise.
For that matter, unlike in most other areas of 40k, the lore is unanimous about Living Saints. They are not connected to the warp. Almost every single source on the topic specifically says this, and none of them contradict it. You may want to lie to yourself and make gak up to claim otherwise, but that doesn't actually change anything.
Tadashi wrote: No, but the Space Marines have the Emperor's blood in their veins,
Blood ten thousand years removed, thinned so \much that they're having mutations and abnormalities on a fairly regular basis.
The Sisters of Battle may not have the Emperor's blood in them, but they are still the Daughters of the Emperor in spirit-- far more loyal, determined, and dedicated than any Space Marine.
Stop licking the Ordo Malleus' boots long enough to realize that other factions are also awesome.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
Tadashi wrote: The Ecclesiarchy and the Ordo Hereticus decide whether or not a person is a Saint
Whether or not a being is officially declared a saint or living saint is irrelevant to whether or not they actually are.
Lord Inquisitor Coteaz would beg to differ. If he found a link to the Warp, to hell with the Ecclesiarchy and the Ordo Hereticus.
The Sisters of Battle may not have the Emperor's blood in them, but they are still the Daughters of the Emperor in spirit-- far more loyal, determined, and dedicated than any Space Marine.
Enough for them to be used as a catalyst for blood magic.
Stop licking the Ordo Malleus' boots long enough to realize that other factions are also awesome.
Ultimately, Grey Knights are empowered to use whatever means necessary to fight Chaos - including sorceries that would shock even the Thousand Sons and Daemon Weapons that would drive even Chaos Space Marines mad.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.'
Tadashi wrote: Lord Inquisitor Coteaz would beg to differ. If he found a link to the Warp, to hell with the Ecclesiarchy and the Ordo Hereticus.
He wouldn't;, almost every single fluff source on Living Saints specifically says that they are not connected to the warp ,and the remainder do not contradict this.
No matter how much you try claim otherwise.
Lord Inquisitor Coteaz is irrelevant.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
Void__Dragon wrote: The best feat a Living Saint has is killing a Daemon Prince.
Actually, the best feat a Living Saint has is CONQUERING A HUGE FETHING SEGMENT OF THE GALAXY.
Something no purifier has ever done.
Seriously ,stop spanking off grey knights for just a moment so you can realize there's plenty of awesome in the rest of the lore too.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
Tadashi wrote: Lord Inquisitor Coteaz would beg to differ. If he found a link to the Warp, to hell with the Ecclesiarchy and the Ordo Hereticus.
He wouldn't;, almost every single fluff source on Living Saints specifically says that they are not connected to the warp ,and the remainder do not contradict this.
No - instead they're being manipulated like puppets from a distance by the Emperor's psychic might. Congratulations - the Grey Knights' use of Sisters as a catalyst for their sorceries now has true Imperial approval.
Lord Inquisitor Coteaz is irrelevant.
One of the highest members of the Ordo Malleus Grand Conclave is never irrelevant.
Void__Dragon wrote: The best feat a Living Saint has is killing a Daemon Prince.
Actually, the best feat a Living Saint has is CONQUERING A HUGE FETHING SEGMENT OF THE GALAXY.
Yeah - except Lord Solar Macharius and the Primarchs all did that. And so did hundreds if not thousands of Warmasters from the Imperial Guard/Navy over the millennia.
And Grey Knights have seen off countless daemonic threats/incursions LONG BEFORE the Sisters rose on a backwater world.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.'
Tadashi wrote: Yeah - except Lord Solar Macharius and the Primarchs all did that. And so did hundreds if not thousands of Warmasters from the Imperial Guard/Navy over the millennia.
Since you're not actually bothering to read the posts you're responding to, I'm not going to read yours.
Have fun trying to spank Grey Knights and bash everyone who isn't a Grey Knight.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
Tadashi wrote: Yeah - except Lord Solar Macharius and the Primarchs all did that. And so did hundreds if not thousands of Warmasters from the Imperial Guard/Navy over the millennia.
Since you're not actually bothering to read the posts you're responding to, I'm not going to read yours. You have nothing of value to add, and are just spanking off grey knights as if they're the only faction in 40k.
What pretentious drivel.
So are yours - Imperial Guardsmen and Astartes have done more for the Imperium than the Sisters ever have or ever will. Without the former, the Imperium would have crumbled to dust long ago. Without the latter would be worse off or would have never arisen at all.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.'
Soo'Vah'Cha wrote: But I thought this thread was "why do Space marines even exist? "
The problem is, that's been answered a few times over now. Hell, I tried to bring it back on topic, but certain posters are not interested in actually talking about the topic itself.
This thread's really pretty much over, aside from some worthless "the fiction behind my favored group of little plastic soldiers is better than the fiction behind your favored little group of plastic soldiers" arguments.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
Based on the sum of all the posts that have been made on this thread it is clear to me that it is due to the combination of all the various agencies of the Imperium; Grey Knights, Sisters, Imeprial Guard, Astartes, etc... that maintain the Imperium, that is without question. One single entity within the Imperium could not guarantee its collective safety, so no more who is better or who has more influence or anymore nonsense.
The original post deals with the existence of the Astartes but it has devolved into a squabble over who is cooler.
Melissa, though I dont agree with alot of your opinions regarding the Astartes, I respect and admire your knowledge on the factions of the Imperium, and furthermore, I agree with you on that no one faction is better than another and all of them ought to be just as appreciated as the Astartes.
I hope this thread takes a turn back toward relevance.
Melissia wrote: Actually, the best feat a Living Saint has is CONQUERING A HUGE FETHING SEGMENT OF THE GALAXY.
Something no purifier has ever done.
Seriously ,stop spanking off grey knights for just a moment so you can realize there's plenty of awesome in the rest of the lore too.
An irrelevant point, and I'd like to believe you know that.
While such a feat is impressive from a commanding standpoint, it means exactly nothing when determining whether or not she could beat up the Purifiers and force her way through them.
Also: Grey Knights are not meant to conquer worlds, they are meant to be a fast-response force when Daemons breach the veil into the Materium. I am sure ignoring that aspect of the fluff was very convenient for you.
It's really weird, how you can accuse other people of spanking and being fanboys or girls, when you're the one making sweeping and absolute statements like that the Sisters of Battle, every single solitary one, is "far more loyal, determined, and dedicated than any Space Marine".
Such a statement can't be proven either way, so why even make it? Despite what you may believe I don't dislike Sisters of Battle like Tadashi seems to. I won't claim Sister power comes from the Warp because I've seen the evidence that it is explicitly not the case (Well, not Chaos anyway, in a very technical sense it would considering the Emperor's power is rooted in the Warp). You, on the other hand, actively bash the faction you are arguing against in favor of whichever one you are supporting (Typically Orks or Sisters of Battle). So which one of us is really the biased one, hm?
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Void__Dragon wrote: Despite what you may believe I don't dislike Sisters of Battle like Tadashi seems to.
Only because despite the Inquisition being a bunch of frakheads, they were at least founded on the Emperor's orders. The Sisters and the Ecclesiarchy, on the other hand, are off-shoots of a proscribed cult. And one proscribed by Imperial Decree no less.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.'
Void__Dragon wrote: But to be fair, feth the Emperor, he's an incompetent jackass.
Not incompetent - overconfident. He could have explained things a little better to the Primarchs and the other leaders of the Great Crusade.
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.'
Void__Dragon wrote: You, on the other hand, actively bash the faction you are arguing against in favor of whichever one you are supporting
So saying that Space Marines are not unbeatable gods of war is bashing them?
Feth it. If this is the baseline for your argument, I think I'm gonna just go watch red vs blue instead.
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-- Adam Serwer
My blog
Heck I personally hate the turn GW has taken with the Astartes from the ancient days of the game...I liked my kill crazed fanatics, who were the last thing you truly wanted to see descending from the sky...because you knew things were truly fethed up at that point.
Now its space knights and glory boys of the imperium, blood of the Emperor, and blah blah.
I got into 40k back when 30 marines came in a box, and they inscribed kil kil kil on their knuckle dragging powerfists.
But as time went along the sea change happened and now they have equal amounts of bling as ammo on their suits, and some chapters are turned into mary sues.. oh well, at least the minis look alot better, (although always liked the original missle launcher )
And as to why the Marines still exist, cause they have a niche to fill in the warmachine of the empire..doing the jobs that others cannot do or will not do, lets face it thats what they are all about (fluff wise all along).
If the big had not been put on the golden toilet by his no.1 son, who knows what he would have made from the astartes, or how he would have expanded them, but in the final solution they were made to SERVE the empire/Emperor in what ever needed doing, and when only a huge zealot in PA will do then its call in the Marines, if they are available and if you can contact them..kinda like the A-Team.
And yes everyone else in the IOM is also fighting and dying, the Astartes are just more photo-genic.
Me..I play MARINES MALEVOLANT..somebodies gotta be the bad guy
No, that's a strawman that you put up so that you can be lazy and not actually have to read my posts.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
If the big had not been put on the golden toilet by his no.1 son, who knows what he would have made from the astartes, or how he would have expanded them, but in the final solution they were made to SERVE the empire/Emperor in what ever needed doing, and when only a huge zealot in PA will do then its call in the Marines, if they are available and if you can contact them..kinda like the A-Team.
No idea about the Astartes, but the Primarchs were meant to go into seclusion with the Emperor once the plan (whatever it was) was complete.
Me..I play MARINES MALEVOLANT..somebodies gotta be the bad guy
Void__Dragon wrote: You, on the other hand, actively bash the faction you are arguing against in favor of whichever one you are supporting
So saying that Space Marines are not unbeatable gods of war is bashing them?
Feth it. If this is the baseline for your argument, I think I'm gonna just go watch red vs blue instead.
Your base argument is that marines are useless and other's can do all he things they do better. Wich is not true.
Her base argument isn't Astartes are useless - its Sisters are better since they have miracles, devotion, and faith. Nature of said miracles the Ordo Malleus would probably love to investigate...and which the Astartes, Imperial Guard, Imperial Navy, and everyone else do fine without.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.'
Me..I play MARINES MALEVOLANT..somebodies gotta be the bad guy
Much like the pre-Heresy World Eaters then.
Nah..no silly chain axes and running around..we shoot holes in them, and drop artillery....before we chop them up.
while twirling our evil black mustaches.
I actually started them as kinda a protest to all the shining knight chapters that have been popping up, and have found they are actually fun to play in character..specially in team games. friendly fire..isn't!
Nah..no silly chain axes and running around..we shoot holes in them, and drop artillery....before we chop them up.
while twirling our evil black mustaches.
I actually started them as kinda a protest to all the shining knight chapters that have been popping up, and have found they are actually fun to play in character..specially in team games. friendly fire..isn't!
Meh...who cares about collateral damage. Its to be expected in war - as long as nothing/no one irreplaceable is lost, its fine. Although I prefer a cleaner operation...
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.'
A moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy 
friendly fire..isn't!