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2012/10/23 23:03:48
Subject: Re:Forge World Primarchs.
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Fixture of Dakka
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 rems01 wrote: DarknessEternal wrote:
Yes, and it's wrong. Or at least it's inconsistent with the 40k canon. The Abnett-verse is its own canon.
Graham McNiel wrote A Thousand Sons. Magnus having just one eye has been retconned. The Heresy books consistently depict him as having one eye in it's normal place and a puckered scar where the other should be. It was part of the bargain struck to save his legion. That's now the canon.
Right, I did say the Abnett-verse. And it's not a retcon, it's a separate canon.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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2012/10/24 00:44:18
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Nimble Pistolier
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Why would a being cloned from the emperor only have 1 eye in the middle of his forhead at birth? He gave it up to save his legion as someone has already said, it makes way more 'sence' that way.
Back on topic, i an really looking forward to seeing Leman Russ with me being a woolfie and all. it will be interesting to put his original model (which i have) and the new one side by side. I can see Mortarion looking a bit like a Sontarin from Dr. Who
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2012/10/24 00:47:22
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Probably the ones who have had no official picture of them yet:
-Vulkan
-Konrad Curze
-Lion El'Jonson
-Alpharius
On top of sculpting these guys, they also have to make the first real visual appearance of them.
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My Armies:
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2012/10/24 01:03:48
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Doesn't the lion have artwork? I could swear I've seen him a GW book somewhere.
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2012/10/24 02:22:56
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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My Armies:
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2012/10/24 04:13:57
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Nerm86 wrote:Why would a being cloned from the emperor only have 1 eye in the middle of his forhead at birth?
The same reason one had wings, one has white skin and black eyes, etc...
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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2012/10/24 05:41:23
Subject: Re:Forge World Primarchs.
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DarknessEternal wrote: rems01 wrote: DarknessEternal wrote: Yes, and it's wrong. Or at least it's inconsistent with the 40k canon. The Abnett-verse is its own canon.
Graham McNiel wrote A Thousand Sons. Magnus having just one eye has been retconned. The Heresy books consistently depict him as having one eye in it's normal place and a puckered scar where the other should be. It was part of the bargain struck to save his legion. That's now the canon.
Right, I did say the Abnett-verse. And it's not a retcon, it's a separate canon.
Considering Forge World have said they're working with Black Library to get fluff, appearances and characters consistent, and even the appearance of Loken, I'd say you're going to be disappointed. They're following the Black Library books, not the old fluff. As ever with 40k, it's not going to be canon if you don't want it to be, but it doesn't mean they're not doing it.
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2012/10/24 05:58:39
Subject: Re:Forge World Primarchs.
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Sister Vastly Superior
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DarknessEternal wrote: rems01 wrote: DarknessEternal wrote:
Yes, and it's wrong. Or at least it's inconsistent with the 40k canon. The Abnett-verse is its own canon.
Graham McNiel wrote A Thousand Sons. Magnus having just one eye has been retconned. The Heresy books consistently depict him as having one eye in it's normal place and a puckered scar where the other should be. It was part of the bargain struck to save his legion. That's now the canon.
Right, I did say the Abnett-verse. And it's not a retcon, it's a separate canon.
Abnett-verse? The very post you just quoted stated that abnett has NOTHING to do with magnus having at one point had 2 eyes. And yes it is a retcon. Not seperate canon.
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Considering Forge World have said they're working with Black Library to get fluff, appearances and characters consistent, and even the appearance of Loken, I'd say you're going to be disappointed. They're following the Black Library books, not the old fluff. As ever with 40k, it's not going to be canon if you don't want it to be, but it doesn't mean they're not doing it.
Canon is what the company says it is. They have said magnus now has 2 eyes. Fans do not dictate what is and what is not canon. The company does. Just because someone thinks klingons are stupid and shouldn't be canon does not make all star trek episodes involving them now somehow incorrect. Just because someone thinks magnus should be an actual cyclops and ignore the obvious influence of norse mythology that the story has (odin trading his eye for knowledge, ravens, blah blah) does not make it correct. It makes them stubborn.
Basically to sum it up, There is no "abnett-verse" (which I still think is funny even being mentioned when like i said he had nothing to do with it) There is 40k canon, and "Darknesseternal-verse".
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2012/10/24 08:01:52
Subject: Re:Forge World Primarchs.
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Mutating Changebringer
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I thought the company said there is no canon.
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2012/10/24 10:08:35
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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i think the Daemon primarchs will be the most interesting to see, assumign they do them.
I think there is some form of artwork for each primarch floarting around.
But artwork of the Daemon primarchs? I have only seen pictures of Fulgrim and Mortarion i think...and the 40k Epic Magnus.
Can't wait for Perturabo.
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2012/10/24 11:15:37
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Nasty Nob
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Hardest one to make? Forge World seems pretty good at making stuff so the hardest one will be the one whose appearance is the least established. People like Magnus, Sanguinius, Fulgrim and Horus have these universal, unique looks that help you pick them out in a crowd, but if I did a piece of fan art of, say, Alpharius, I'd have to tell you it was him.
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2012/10/24 11:40:11
Subject: Re:Forge World Primarchs.
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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The Emperor, Sanguinius and Horus were done 17 years ago.
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2012/10/24 14:26:22
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Interesting! I've never seen those before.
What horrible models. Hopefully, they'll look nothing like that!
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2012/10/24 14:35:50
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Alpharius will be hard to do, considering he is supposed to look like all the other marines in his Legion. I think that when they do release it, many will complain he doesn't look epic enough.
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2012/10/24 16:47:01
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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 ShatteredBlade wrote:Alpharius will be hard to do, considering he is supposed to look like all the other marines in his Legion. I think that when they do release it, many will complain he doesn't look epic enough.
I've always thought it would be cool to give Alpharius a rule where at anytime he can replace a friendly sergeant on the board "No, I am Alpharius".
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2012/10/24 16:47:04
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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I think the Alpharius set should be 5 models, each of which looks different. The description being "The Primarch of the Alpha Legion, Alpharius Omegon. He may be one of these, none of these, or all of these".
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2012/10/24 16:56:25
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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So forge world is making primarch models? Are they going to have an expansion or something for it?
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2012/10/24 16:59:51
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Canas is back wrote:So forge world is making primarch models? Are they going to have an expansion or something for it?
Are you serious?
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Events/Horus_Heresy.html
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2012/10/24 17:48:01
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Sneaky Lictor
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I know he's not the most interesting/difficult/popular, but I'm really looking forward to Corax. I just think his look overall is going to be one of the better ones that most people won't really pay attention to.
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2012/10/24 18:48:31
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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 Ravanar wrote:For a time at least.
Alpharius and Omegeon could be quite interesting to do actually, one could be in full power armour as the legions head figure (wasn't there in a line in the Alpha legion BL book to the effect of Omegeon enjoying being Alpharius when dealing with the other Primarchs?) The second could be in more... non descript clothing, there was an example of one of the twins going around in pretty much heavy rags and robes, almost pretending to be a combat servitor or some such.
I'm still reading through Legion, but Alpharius is wearing normal Alpha Legion Power Armor, and as does Omegon (in black armor).
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2012/10/24 18:59:36
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Lion El'Jonson looks like Fabio but bigger.
Trufax.
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2012/10/24 19:31:23
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I'm sorry I JUST got into Warhammer 40k so I have not heard every bit of info... 
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2012/10/24 19:51:47
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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I am Buying Khan and The emperor.
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2012/10/24 19:54:27
Subject: Re:Forge World Primarchs.
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Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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 Zweischneid wrote:Not a Primarch.. but the Emperor will surely unleash lots of controversy.
How do you make him stand out, even against the Primarchs, and not go down some silly Christmas-tree route that most third-party makers seem to favour. Or if they do a Christmas-tree-bling-Emperor, I'll probably not like it.
I guess, to a lesser degree, all loyalist "main-stream" Primarchs (Guilliman, Dorn, Lion, etc..) run the danger of falling to the silly Christmas-tree symptom.
http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=1233
did some one say emperor model?
http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,shop.php?art=1120#i/2012/big/archangel_p_01.jpg
or blood angles Primarch?
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2012/10/24 19:54:43
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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I'm buying two Emprah!s and having them sit on my dresser staring at each other
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You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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2012/10/24 20:25:43
Subject: Re:Forge World Primarchs.
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Paladin of the Wall
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Dorn's model will probably be difficult because they'll have to have the body, and sell the 200lb chainsword separately
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2012/10/24 20:51:27
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Huge Hierodule
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 Praxiss wrote:
But artwork of the Daemon primarchs? I have only seen pictures of Fulgrim and Mortarion i think...and the 40k Epic Magnus.
Angron
Lorgar
Magnus
Both those models are awful. Their poses are awkward and they just look silly. These two are much better, IMO:
Emperor
Sanguinius
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2012/10/24 20:54:17
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Canas is back wrote:I'm sorry I JUST got into Warhammer 40k so I have not heard every bit of info...
Don't get fussed over it. Some of us have been waiting for Horus Heresy stuff for a while and this is an exciting time for me, that's for sure. I just got my HH book yesterday, but won't have time to sit down with it until tomorrow, really. Welcome to Dakka. Post a bunch. 
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2012/10/24 21:08:02
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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 kronk wrote:Canas is back wrote:I'm sorry I JUST got into Warhammer 40k so I have not heard every bit of info...
Don't get fussed over it. Some of us have been waiting for Horus Heresy stuff for a while and this is an exciting time for me, that's for sure. I just got my HH book yesterday, but won't have time to sit down with it until tomorrow, really.
Welcome to Dakka. Post a bunch.
:p I wasn't really upset. This will actually save me a bit of work I wanted to do a war of primarchs ( post heresy) and this will give me a decent idea on how to do it.
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2012/10/25 00:04:53
Subject: Forge World Primarchs.
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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 Darth Bob wrote: Praxiss wrote:
But artwork of the Daemon primarchs? I have only seen pictures of Fulgrim and Mortarion i think...and the 40k Epic Magnus.
Angron
Lorgar
Magnus
Both those models are awful. Their poses are awkward and they just look silly. These two are much better, IMO:
Emperor
Sanguinius
The scibor sanguinus looks much better then that thing! Both emps kinda suck
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