Wild West Exodus Miniatures Game - The Ongoing Kickstarter News and Rumors Thread!

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**frank6002**

Alfndrate wrote:
Unless of course this is a mock up to show what would happen if someone had 2 melee and 2 ranged weapons

I think it is just a mock up at the moment, folk have been asking about them and what they will look like. Dunno about the poison though.

cincydooley wrote :
1. The Stats on the right side should be moved. I dont know why I don't like them there, but they look cluttered and a bit too large. I think it's partly due to the font theyre in, but regardless, they look a bit off.
2. I'd drop the gradient on the stat box for a flat color. Not a huge fan of gradients on top of a background, though it isn't AS bad on the weapon boxes.
3. Speaking of fonts, I think there are too many different ones on the card. I'm counting 5 distinctly different fonts (character name, "Stats" title, stats boxes, actual model costs, and the one for everything else). I think it makes the card look a bit disjointed.
4. I realize it's a test card, but i'm trying to figure out why each of lincolns weapons is listed twice. I THINK it's because they're two handed, but if that's the case, it's redundant.
5. I'd pick a specific "type" of symbology for the influence and halo graphics. The influence one is a 2-D and fully backs the influence #; the halo is a 3-D that is open in the middle. I'd have made it a simple circle with the same outlining as the influence one. Either way, pick one way to do it, and not both.
6. I think the back, for the most part, looks great. I'd kill the size of the melee and ranged logos. They're sort of huge.
7. I think someone already mentioned it, but it wouldn't be an awful idea to assign symbols to their special rules and get rid of the special rules typing on the front. That may be a bit too WM/H, but its a system that leads to a better aesthetic, IMO.

I think your bang on the money with your thinking.

I've not had any experience with cards before now as I've just been a 40k player before now.

**RiTides**

Alfndrate wrote:
RiTides wrote:
Alfndrate- you said you'd take a break from this thread above- please follow through on that. Give other people a chance to post, just like Mick did before.

Thanks in advance

I did take a break, I went to sleep. I'm just asking some questions about the stat card, atm it's the only thing that's really pulling me in. :-\

I like the look of them, and I'm trying to think of why Abe has/needs 2 of them (and why they have poison lol )

By break I mean allow others to post. Questions are fine. Questions over and over from the same poster can become spam. You need to go look up the answers yourself now and allow others to use the thread. If kickstarter is blocked at your work, you need to remember to check before/after. If you really cannot find the answer you could PM Mick (as I did). But continuing to post questions every other post is, at this point, bordering on spam.

**Hulksmash**

Well that's just silly. I ran the numbers on just the models I'd like to paint (majority of bosses, underbosses, sidekicks, and such) with only a single starter box (Outlaws) and it came out to almost more than to buy two fiendish sets....

**Madmick**

Hi Guys,
Just wanted to let you know as to why the stat cards had the weapons twice. They were trying to fill up the card with maximum content, as this allows if all the details will fit if someone had 2x ranged and 2x CC weapons.

@Cincy,
I really like your observations on the card btw

I would also like to add that every 5th lifeblood be coloured in order to deduct more accurately.
I agree with your assessment of the CC/Rng logos being a bit big. I would like it if the writing was permitted to be bigger on the back and pics smaller.
Front looks really nice imho, but I would prefer logos or 2x letters to identify each stat. I have heard some others state the same. But perhaps in time it will not be an issue?

Nice discussion going on, and thanks to those whom sent me messages. I hope I have learnt the lessons you had to offer.

hehe

**cincydooley**

I don't think any single font is a problem; i think they just have too many of them. If you look at any of the other card based games, they all seem to have 3 fonts, TOPS. I'm not a graphic designer, but i know there are best practices for a lot of that stuff, and they usually revolve around a "less is more" philosophy.

I think if they're planning on having enough space for 2x Range and 2x CC, then they need to decrease the size of those a bit. I understand wanting to maximize information on the front, but there's some tangible benefit in some 'open space.' Right now, it looks to be a bit cluttered.

Less is more!

**Madmick**

cincydooley wrote:
I don't think any single font is a problem; i think they just have too many of them. If you look at any of the other card based games, they all seem to have 3 fonts, TOPS. I'm not a graphic designer, but i know there are best practices for a lot of that stuff, and they usually revolve around a "less is more" philosophy.

I think if they're planning on having enough space for 2x Range and 2x CC, then they need to decrease the size of those a bit. I understand wanting to maximize information on the front, but there's some tangible benefit in some 'open space.' Right now, it looks to be a bit cluttered.

Less is more!

From what I have just read off of the KS. The Abe card will remove the duplication where necessary . Which I would think one of each weapon.
As I find it difficult to read (Dyslexia) I really value clear fonts and not cluttered. I use Yellow or Celery/Aqua coloured ascertate, so the back is good for me with the old parchment effect.
Other than those I think nice job.

I think we will have a better perspective when we see multiple cards, which will be downloadable with the beta rules IIRC.

**Earth Dragon**

Hulksmash wrote:
Well that's just silly. I ran the numbers on just the models I'd like to paint (majority of bosses, underbosses, sidekicks, and such) with only a single starter box (Outlaws) and it came out to almost more than to buy two fiendish sets....

You can trade out figures from the starter sets. So if you pledged for a fiendish, you can trade underbosses for underbosses, bosses for bosses and so on. You just have to add the difference if it is a larger model. At that point, you can sell or spray the hired hands, and you get the 30% off coupon to use later.

The very last FAQ on the main page explains this nicely

**Hulksmash**

Nope, I got that man. Just thought it was funny that about 30 models would run me the same as over 100. Hence the main reason for the comparison.

If only the models were closer to 30mm tall

I could use the main models for other stuff (super unlikely to play this game, just a few of the models tickle my fancy)

**destrox76**

Come on. There has to be someone who wants to split a Corrupt!!! just think of all the awesome goodness.

**Earth Dragon**

I'd LOVE to destrox, but I'm in Hawaii : (

**RiTides**

Yeah, that must be rough...

**Alpharius**

destrox76 wrote:
Come on. There has to be someone who wants to split a Corrupt!!! just think of all the awesome goodness.

Uh... maybe not?

You're taking about $500 here!

I mean, the models are nice and the game looks like fun but... $500!

**Madmick**

Just to let you guys know that there will be a reveal of the Enlightened Monocav on Beasts of War, most likely on the weekender tomorrow. Not sure how many of you guys watch BoW products, but I will put it out there anyway.

**yakface**

Alpharius wrote:

Uh... maybe not?

You're taking about $500 here!

I mean, the models are nice and the game looks like fun but... $500!

Well, the average backer amount on this campaign is up to $305...which is one of the highest averages I can find from any major miniature KS besides Kingdom Death (which finished at an astounding $379), so the people who are into this game are REALLY into this game. They've got at least 57 backers who are in for $1,000+, 2 in for $3,500 and 1 in for $5,000.

So yeah, I think finding one more person willing to drop $500 probably won't be that hard to do.

**Hulksmash**

Considering the cheapest I can get the models I'd want to paint for is $300 on the nose I'm not surprised at the average backer amount. If not for the swapping between model types I'd probably not even be thinking about it. Still wish there was a way to swap other stuff you don't want. Gonna have to decide if the models are worth the cost over the weekend. Basically if 36 models (most of the characters) are worth the cost.....

**Empchild**

Hulksmash wrote:
Considering the cheapest I can get the models I'd want to paint for is $300 on the nose I'm not surprised at the average backer amount. If not for the swapping between model types I'd probably not even be thinking about it. Still wish there was a way to swap other stuff you don't want. Gonna have to decide if the models are worth the cost over the weekend. Basically if 36 models (most of the characters) are worth the cost.....

I honestly pulled my backing because of that ideal. I figured I could get what I want for around the same price and not have a bunch of extras laying around.

**Hulksmash**

@Empchild

That's the other end of the spectrum

I might do a small order of just the best figures I like though. Which would be much, much less.

**Alpharius**

yakface wrote:
Alpharius wrote:

Uh... maybe not?

You're taking about $500 here!

I mean, the models are nice and the game looks like fun but... $500!

Well, the average backer amount on this campaign is up to $305...which is one of the highest averages I can find from any major miniature KS besides Kingdom Death (which finished at an astounding $379), so the people who are into this game are REALLY into this game. They've got at least 57 backers who are in for $1,000+, 2 in for $3,500 and 1 in for $5,000.

So yeah, I think finding one more person willing to drop $500 probably won't be that hard to do.

The campaign is nearing its end, and $500 is a long ways from $305!

Add to that the "You're just some random guy on the Internet" factor, and I'm saying it will be hard to do!

Still hoping for the Lawmen - but it looks like I'll just have to pick them up later, when they get released after the KS.

**Earth Dragon**

The average is at a peak now I think. It will tone down after the weekend rush we folks come in and pledge more in the realm of $125-$250

**destrox76**

Yeah your right. im "some random guy on the internet" However i let 4 people jump on my Relic knights pledge, so you never know. if not im gonna pledge Shamless.

**Alpharius**

destrox76 wrote:
Yeah your right. im "some random guy on the internet" However i let 4 people jump on my Relic knights pledge, so you never know. if not im gonna pledge Shamless.

Hey, no offense intended - but surely even you can see it might be a bit difficult to get someone you don't know to send you $500!

**Empchild**

Alpharius wrote:
destrox76 wrote:
Yeah your right. im "some random guy on the internet" However i let 4 people jump on my Relic knights pledge, so you never know. if not im gonna pledge Shamless.

Hey, no offense intended - but surely even you can see it might be a bit difficult to get someone you don't know to send you $500!

I totally disagree as people do it to me all the time

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**Alpharius**

Says the guy who runs a store with great customer service and a good track record!

**Madmick**

Update for some of the re-sculpted figures.

Love the Outlaws with the long jackets and heavy armour. I think my main faction may be between Outlaws and Warrior Nation now. Will have to wait till wave 2 of the light vehicles I think

**Alfndrate**

Madmick wrote:
Update for some of the re-sculpted figures.

Love the Outlaws with the long jackets and heavy armour. I think my main faction may be between Outlaws and Warrior Nation now. Will have to wait till wave 2 of the light vehicles I think

The models with the coats look good, but they're aiming wrong

gotta raise their arms up just a weee bit more

The one in the first row in the middle doesn't look good at all, I think the mixed aesthetic doesn't work with him... especially with the bowler cap...

**destrox76**

No worries, totaly understand what your saying.

**Empchild**

Alpharius wrote:
Says the guy who runs a store with great customer service and a good track record!

Shucks in all honesty if i had constant orders like that you would see q gaming mecca built here in mass. I may hop back in on this i just have to wait and see

**Earth Dragon**

I view everything as a minor investment on kickstarter If feel I can sell something for more then I pay for it. If not 100% if I want it but pretty sure, I default on buying the items. I can sell them for more later. Obviously I'm not gonna be a corrupt pledger if that was the case or something crazy, but I got nothing to loose with wicked.

Love the new civilian. Outlaws will be a minor faction. Mostly Union and Warrior Nation will be in my basket at this point, and I may sell the outlaws if really happy with the others once I get the models.

**Madmick**

What do you guys think of the new Monocav? Certainly different.
I think depending how the 3D sculpts come out it could be a very interesting model.
Certainly a good opportunity for conversion imho. I still prefer the Iron Horses most though, as I like the front end with the huge grill.

http://www.beastsofwar.com/wild-west-exodus/3-days-left-wild-west-exodus-exclusive-preview/

**Earth Dragon**

Oh. And that backer personally funding a Merc figure for all fiendish and above pledgers is CRAZY!! But I'm not complaining. Seems like a great unit to tie folks up.