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 squall018 wrote:
Thanks for the replies guys. Looks cool enough that I think I'm gonna get in on this. Now the only question is how much!

If you like painting or arranging minis, I definitely recommend the Survivor level at $155. You get the Anna and Adam minis, 5 extra King's Men, an extra Watcher, an extra Phoenix, Survivor Paul, 2 extra sets of Phoenix armor kits, and 2 more rawhide armor kit minis. Plus a t-shirt, if you're into that sort of thing as a reward. If he keeps up like this, the value will just be way too good to miss.

No guarantee, so that's why you choose ones that have put out high quality product (if not on the same scale) before.

I've a question for when the creator gets back.

What are we looking at cost-wise for future KD releases? Will they all be in plastic and readily available from the end of the Kickstarter on?

$15 for a single plastic mini is kinda hard to stomach, and with that being the kickstarter (i.e. - usually fairly heavily discounted) price - I'm a bit worried that I might be setting myself up for a line I can't afford to keep up with in the future.

Schmapdi wrote:
I've a question for when the creator gets back.

What are we looking at cost-wise for future KD releases? Will they all be in plastic and readily available from the end of the Kickstarter on?

$15 for a single plastic mini is kinda hard to stomach, and with that being the kickstarter (i.e. - usually fairly heavily discounted) price - I'm a bit worried that I might be setting myself up for a line I can't afford to keep up with in the future.

It MAY seem high but once you have checked out a few of those miniatures in person you realize it is worth it.

Although the way I see it, if you're going to go for one of the KD single minis, you might as well go all out and get the resin version.

 squall018 wrote:
Just a question as I'm new to kickstarter, but is there any kind of guarantee if you pledge money? I'm not saying anyone would intentionally take the money and run, but I've never pledged before and was just wondering.

We don't know yet. Consumer protection law should apply to these pre-order Kickstarters, but there's no way to be 100% sure until someone tests it in court.

I don't believe there is a guarantee. That is why I select which Kickstarters I back with great care.

Update 14 has been posted

Dragon King and Dragon King Armour and expansion set - $30 add on no resin version yet still has to be priced up.



Lioness and lion armour upgrade next at $350,000

Well, that's 30 dollars gone. Although at $233 invested (that shipping cost is killing me), I'm starting to hit my ceiling.

Good news for my across the border Canadian Friends!

I've looked into it, and chatted with my developer. The rate over to canada is much lower.

While a 7lb priority box to france costs $56 the same box only costs $36 to canada.

This means I can drop the shipping price for canadian backers at the pledge manager after the kickstarter is over. I cannot however had any additional shipping options to the kickstarter page directly. A limitation of the software.

For now please just pledge $30 for your shipping and we will work it out later. I'll make another announcement on the KS page later this week, but please do me a favor and let other canadian backers you know of the change.

This is excellent news. But I won't be lowering my pledge

Just increased my pledge to include all the extras in plastic with the exception of behind the wall which I want in resin. That means I already am at $291. Damn if this keeps going like this its going to be a very expensive kickstarter

 kingdomdeath wrote:
Good news for my across the border Canadian Friends!

I've looked into it, and chatted with my developer. The rate over to canada is much lower.

While a 7lb priority box to france costs $56 the same box only costs $36 to canada.

This means I can drop the shipping price for canadian backers at the pledge manager after the kickstarter is over. I cannot however had any additional shipping options to the kickstarter page directly. A limitation of the software.

For now please just pledge $30 for your shipping and we will work it out later. I'll make another announcement on the KS page later this week, but please do me a favor and let other canadian backers you know of the change.

Hey Bro, you're a great guy for doing this. I personally appreciate it and want to thank you on behalf of all Canadian customers for this. Even $15 cheaper shipping is a big deal, that's almost a resin figure! $10 more.

Thanks a bunch and this kind of attitude is EXACTLY why I will be pledging tons of cash your way my man.

 Bacms wrote:
Just increased my pledge to include all the extras in plastic with the exception of behind the wall which I want in resin. That means I already am at $291. Damn if this keeps going like this its going to be a very expensive kickstarter

Don't forget that it is also going to have 20% (or whatever rate it is at the time) vat and a local posal handling fee on top of that when it gets sent to anywhere outside of the US. For my current bid, that's an extra £40 that I need to pay out... Why do I always forget this when backing things?

Oh. Pins of War thinks there is possibly also an import fee of 4.7% in the uk if the original order, plus shipping, exceeds £135 :/

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 Bacms wrote:
Just increased my pledge to include all the extras in plastic with the exception of behind the wall which I want in resin. That means I already am at $291. Damn if this keeps going like this its going to be a very expensive kickstarter

Don't forget that it is also going to have 20% (or whatever rate it is at the time) vat and a local posal handling fee on top of that when it gets sent to anywhere outside of the US. For my current bid, that's an extra £40 that I need to pay out... Why do I always forget this when backing things?

Oh. Pins of War thinks there is possibly also an import fee of 4.7% in the uk if the original order, plus shipping, exceeds £135 :/

Thanks for the info on this. This is actually the first time I do a kickstarter where I have to consider that and wasn't aware of such a high increase in price due to that. At least it is not paid simultaneous with the pledge but still I will definitely take that into account. Which means I probably have to lower my pledges for the extra minis.

Kingdom Death- Is there any way to add extra survivors of a certain type??

Personally, I am after more White Lion armor. Maybe you can list an add-on cost for it in the next update?

I wish the +4 Phoenix armor and +4 Fur armor stretches had been ANY armor (backer chooses). At this rate, I'll have enough for 6 players of only the armors I dislike. I like symmetry, but with dragon armor and the like added, we'll never get 6-8 of them all.

So, the options: Can we add survivors/armor to our pledges? Any way to make them sets of 2 rather than 4 (probably not)? Any chance the extra Phoenix and Fur armor could be changed to: extra of ANY starting armor, backer chooses????

Thanks!

 kingdomdeath wrote:
Good news for my across the border Canadian Friends!

I've looked into it, and chatted with my developer. The rate over to canada is much lower.

While a 7lb priority box to france costs $56 the same box only costs $36 to canada.

This means I can drop the shipping price for canadian backers at the pledge manager after the kickstarter is over. I cannot however had any additional shipping options to the kickstarter page directly. A limitation of the software.

For now please just pledge $30 for your shipping and we will work it out later. I'll make another announcement on the KS page later this week, but please do me a favor and let other canadian backers you know of the change.

Yes!!! I think the mere fact that you took the effort to research and update this is enough to get me to sign up to KS and pledge.

 Bacms wrote:
Just increased my pledge to include all the extras in plastic with the exception of behind the wall which I want in resin. That means I already am at $291. Damn if this keeps going like this its going to be a very expensive kickstarter

I fully expect this one to be much like SW, Relic Knights, etc. and end up in the $400 range for a 'realistic' 'get them all' type of deal...

I've a question for mr poots:

Any chance you could give us more details on the game components themselves? What materials they're made of, full breakdown, etc? What about plans for the rule book and/or additional game books? Full colour, stories included, etc?

Just to elaborate my earlier question- Letting people choose their extra armor sets should be doable since a survey must go out anyway (to find out what expansions / optional figures people pledged for).

 RiTides wrote:
Just to elaborate my earlier question- Letting people choose their extra armor sets should be doable since a survey must go out anyway (to find out what expansions / optional figures people pledged for).

That might depend on the manufacturer. I believe the armor kits are plastic and thus not being done in-house (okay, considering where he lives, it's probably in-apartment.) Personally I'd rather take a default, everyone gets the same stuff approach if it means keeping production costs down. Lower costs, after all, means we can get more stuffed in our boxes. And who doesn't love to get their box stuffed?

...okay, maybe I'm going a bit far with the pun there. I'll stop.

But if he lets people add armor sets as add-ons, they'll need to figure out what to include anyway. And they'll already be doing this for optional pin-ups, resins, etc.

I'm talking about Survivor bonuses, not the box contents, btw.

 RiTides wrote:
But if he lets people add armor sets as add-ons, they'll need to figure out what to include anyway. And they'll already be doing this for optional pin-ups, resins, etc.

I'm talking about Survivor bonuses, not the box contents, btw.

Sounds like a good idea, and something that could be done while only adding a bit of complexity to the end of campaign pledge manager.

Pledged at 240. Yudothis to me kickstarter? :(

 RiTides wrote:
But if he lets people add armor sets as add-ons, they'll need to figure out what to include anyway. And they'll already be doing this for optional pin-ups, resins, etc.

I'm talking about Survivor bonuses, not the box contents, btw.

Honestly, I don't see it as being too big a deal. We'll probably end up hitting the stretches for all the extra main armour sets anyway, and I don't see why there'd be stretches to expand the expansion sets.

And besides, the Lion Armour Kit upgrade is only $7000 away. You'll probably get the additional armour set you want tonight.

I thought that was just to upgrade that armor kit, adding an additional piece- not to get more sets of it.

I'm sorely tempted to back this, just waiting for some more details about the game. I sent a question via kickstarter and Adam said he would expand on the game play when he gets a chance.

The only thing I find slightly weird is that a game for up to 6 players contains 32 player characters and only 7 npcs. Hopefully there is an explanation for this and enough gameplay with only 7 monsters.

I'm betting the many of the monsters will not be easy to defeat, and they'll be time spent developing a settlement, new armor and weapons, etc.

Wooooooooooooo! Cheekly a nabbed 'Black Friday Round 3'!

Every little helps when the postage is $45 and then tax and postage handling over here!

Will put in for more when I see what crimbo monies I get


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RichS wrote:
I'm sorely tempted to back this, just waiting for some more details about the game. I sent a question via kickstarter and Adam said he would expand on the game play when he gets a chance.

The only thing I find slightly weird is that a game for up to 6 players contains 32 player characters and only 7 npcs. Hopefully there is an explanation for this and enough gameplay with only 7 monsters.

Both the flower fella and the dragons are expansions, a minor one and a major one respectively.

Though you are right, interesting to see there are so few NPC's/monsters, may show just how intricately this game is being designed which is good

I'm all for options in designing your character and needless to say a large number of backers will be in it purely for the minis, its more the reason behind containing so many in the base set rather than a few more monsters.

Even if there is a lot of game play with the settlement building and the monsters are difficult to beat, are a lot of the characters simply going to be sitting around in the box?

Don't get me wrong I'm very excited by this I'm just hoping it is as awesome as I was expecting.