Imbrian Arts Kickstarter - Latest Update: Death Knight sculpted, working on casting

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**plastictrees**

Unbearably passive aggressive. He's spent time assembling people's miniatures?
Jody is a buffoon. As long as he has a couple of guys with incredibly low expectations I guess he can keep pretending he isn't completely incompetent.

**Alpharius**

Neil about 5 hours ago

Nauseating passive aggression Jody, thanks.
Maybe get back to sculpting instead of telling us how amazingly generous you've been to two guys that would apparently accept anything you have lying around en lieu of what they actually pledged for.

Creator Jody Siegel about 1 hour ago

Sorry, Neil. I genuinely didn't think that my statement would be interpreted as passive aggressive and it wasn't my intent. Someone said in the past that there was no way I would assemble figures for Ryan when he asked. I guess I was trying to illustrate that I'm not some scumbag who's run off with your money, I like you guys and I help when I can. I just wanted to say something on Me_in Japan's behalf because he got some flak for saying something positive. If you guys want to be critical of me by all means, make it constructive, send me a message and I'll learn from it and we can have a conversation if you want to offer some suggestion that might help. But please be good to each other. That's all I'm asking.

Fair enough, I suppose - but Jody REALLY just needs to be a lot more transparent and communicate just where EVERYTHING is in terms of sculpting and shipping.

**JohnHwangDD**

Creator Jody Siegel wrote:I'm not some scumbag who's run off with your money

Well, there we go! All good.

**plastictrees**

Neil is me fyi.
The fact that he felt the need to defend a backer who had received ONE vaguely negative response to his clearly intentionally inflammatory tirade is mind boggling.

I can not believe that anyone can be as oblivious to his communication failings as Jody is being.
He needs to break out of the 'I'll just get a little more done this week and then I'll have something to show them!' Cycle that he's been in for 4 years.

**plastictrees**

Jodys apartment has flooded again....so he's moving.
Apparently that gave him enough time to tell us that but not an additional 2 minutes to tell us what's sculpted.

**plastictrees**

Another comments update, his wife's car broke down but they have moved!

I'm not sure why I'm still paying attention to this anymore honestly.

**Ian Sturrock**

Surely it's still interesting, in the same way that watching a train wreck is interesting. A train wreck that was carrying experimental bioweapons that have now unleashed a pus-ridden zombie plague. Fighting a giant wereshark with a switchblade. It's interesting in the same way that watching that would be interesting, as long as you were at a safe distance. Only it turns out that the whole thing is actually a soap opera and the wereshark is constantly making excuses for why he's not yet managed to defeat the plague zombies, and the excuses all revolve around trivial nonsense. "Well I was gonna eat some zombies today but I remembered I had run out of floss."

**Alpharius**

plastictrees wrote:
Another comments update, his wife's car broke down but they have moved!

I'm not sure why I'm still paying attention to this anymore honestly.

...

I think you're probably like me - you're paying attention because you still want to get the miniatures you pledged for.

You know, the same miniatures that, if they weren't in the campaign, well, you probably wouldn't have pledged anything at all.

So, now we have:

Moving Expenses

Car Repairs

Which, when added up, equals:

No Chance of Getting Any Miniatures in 2016

Great.

Anyway, here they are:

Creator Jody Siegel 5 days ago

Sorry for the delay in getting back to this, it's definitely a conversation that I want to be more involved in. I'm just checking in mid move (our apartment flooded two more times so we are outta there)
Takapa, I haven't forgotten about you.

He just appears to have forgotten about the rest of us?

and

Creator Jody Siegel 1 day ago

Hey guys, another update- just finished unloading the truck yesterday. This has been the most difficult move ever. The transmission in my wife's car went south midway so we lost a whole day and ended up sending her car to the junkyard. We are wall to wall boxes now but it should only be three or four days before we are unpacked and get the internet back on.

...at which point, what happens then?

I'm guessing "Not Much"?

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Well since he ran the KS as himself (as opposed to as Imbrian Arts) I guess he's at risk of being smacked by anybody with access to a cheap lawyer (or who is one)

but even then the best that would do is get a refund (for that backer) rather than the minis they backed for

so it's wait and hope, see if you can cash out with minis you don't want or write it all off as a bad experience (and boycott companies that use him in the future)

**Alpharius**

And then....there was an update!

Death Knight

Hey all,

Thanks for your patience. After surviving an assault from a cat and a move, I've come to a point where I'm happy to show you the Death Knight. I may still make some changes to the miniature and I welcome your critiques on the progress thus far. For me something about it could be a little better.

I'll also be creating a resin base for the kit this week, like the ifrit and lich. If we're all happy with the figure I'll bake it and call it done!

In the interest of maximising time for artistic work and getting as much sculpting done as possible this time I'll be sending the figure off for casting after I've made my own resin masters.

On the game front, I'm working on commissioning one of my favourite artists for the summoning circle. All of my efforts to force myself into a different style have been somewhat of a let down and a frustrating waste, it's taking up a lot of time I could have spent sculpting (something I know at least I can do well at)

I'll update you again in two weeks, after I've had a chance to gather everyone's input and finalise the sculpture and have it cast.

Happy Monday!

**aku-chan**

It's a nice mini but he's been sculpting it for what, 15 months at this point?

Edit:- Just checked, and the Death Knight first gets mentioned in a Nov 2014 update, so he's spent at least 18 months on it.

**Undead_Love-Machine**

I think that it's quite nice, apart from the helmet which I'm not a fan of, but 18 months worth of sculpting nice? Nope.

Do I think that I will ever receive it, or any of the other figures that I paid for years ago?

Of course not!

**Alpharius**

Yeah, I've got to admit, I still not have a 'warm and fuzzy' in terms of actually receiving the miniatures I pledged for.

Gnoll, Ifrit, Death Knight and...Basilisk, I think?

This update was nice, but I think I'm just as likely to never get anything here as I am to get it all.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Surely that halberd isn't finished yet, right?

Anyway, the pose looks a little off balance to me, although the armor itself is great. Now, if he'll just cast it in some kind of plastic and add three or four options, I'd be quite willing to spend $20 for a box of five.

**plastictrees**

Urgh. 18 months to go from 15% done to 90% done. On one mini.
Let's see if he keeps updating, vanishes for months again, or updates in the comments with "Oh no, a family of bears have moved in to our apartment! My escalating berry costs have really cut in to my sculpting time".

What he REALLY needs to update with is a plan and some sort of realistic timeline for fulfillment. REALLY realistic even if it looks horrible.

**JohnHwangDD**

If it's going to average 1 full year per figure, how many years are we talking about before "everything" is "done"?

**BobtheInquisitor**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
If it's going to average 1 full year per figure, how many years are we talking about before "everything" is "done"?

They'll be done by President Clinton's second term. I'm talking about Mrs. Chelsea Clinton.

**plastictrees**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
If it's going to average 1 full year per figure, how many years are we talking about before "everything" is "done"?

At this point a full year would be a 50% acceleration of his current pace.

**Azazelx**

I think it's safe to say that Jody is a supremely talented flake. Not the only such individual with an outstanding Kickstarter, so it seems.

**Alpharius**

Update #67

Jul 15 2016
quick update
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Hey all,

This is a quick update to let you know the Death Knight had to go back in the mould. One of the spikey bits broke off in the silicone and had to get resculpted. I should have the second mould done this weekend and we'll see how it turns out Monday.

OK.

**plastictrees**

Yup.
The mold didn't explode, forcing Jody to move; or make him realise that actually he should learn how to mine for his own raw materials.
Best update in two years?

**BobtheInquisitor**

Don't be too optimistic yet. This is just chapter one of the Death Knight's A Separate Piece. We all know how that story ends.

**Wehrkind**

One of the spikey bits broke off in the silicone and had to get resculpted.

That's... odd. Unless it broke off during pouring the silicon, it shouldn't be a problem. Things break all the time when taking the master out of the mold, but that doesn't matter for the mold as the silicon is already set and ready to go. If it broke off before or during pouring, ok, but how did that happen? I can imagine it happening I guess, but that's some slack pouring. Is a toddler doing it? Preschool manufacturing company to save money?

**Azazelx**

No progress, need excuse.

**Alpharius**

Update #68

Aug 14 2016

Its casting day, also we have no internet!

Hey all. I'm posting a quick update to let you know we've been having internet problems for the last two weeks. Comcast has been out to our place twice and apparently they have to lay new cable but both techs they sent out cant do that for some reason. We have Verizon coming on Tuesday to hook us up on their network. Until then, you can still get a hold of me through email or Facebook which I can get from my phone.

The first cast of the deathknight is looking ok. All the detail seems to be good but the resin quality is poor, most likely due to the temperature and humidity. If we get some good casts today I will find a wifi spot and upload pics for you.

OK.

**Ian Sturrock**

It really sounds like he has done this in the wrong order. Surely you get your life together first, then learn to cast, then do the KS? Rather than using the KS to fund your failures in getting your life together, and your failures in learning to cast?

**JohnHwangDD**

At least the model is done and he's trying...

**Alpharius**

I can't wait to get the Asura and Gnoll, Ifrit, Basilisk and Death Knight I pledged for.

I mean, I've been waiting for a long, long time now, and clearly I'll be waiting for...and even longer time, but still, I'm not budging.

I want the Asura and Gnoll, Ifrit, Basilisk and Death Knight - as that's why I pledged here!!!

**Alpharius**

Well, well, well...

Update #69

Sep 18 2016
Resin Death Knight Master Assembled

Hello all,

Sorry for the delay, I had to post this update twice. The first time around I tried to send some quick pics via my phone of an assembled Death knight but the submit post button is right next to the back button on android phones. Not good.

I'm pretty happy with how the resin Death Knight looks! There are two quality issues that I want to take care of before sending it to the caster.

First, I'd like the horns to be very pointy on the finished model. Sometimes it's easier to sculpt a model with not so sharp horns and then sharpen up the resin version than try to do the same thing with soft or hard clay which is more likely to not stay up if soft, or break off if hardened.

Second, I found fitting the left arm to the body was not easily done and took a little fiddling for the parts to match up correctly so the version sent to the caster will have a block and a cavity that match up so the mini goes together easily.

News wise, I should be updating the website soon with new prices and unreleased resin figures. I'll be sending the Lich for casting together with the Death Knight so hopefully we can have two resin releases around Oct/Nov.

The Death Knight is the last miniature I'm waiting for.

So hopefully, come Oct/Nov, I'll get a shipment of Asura and Gnoll, Ifrit, Basilisk and the Death Knight...

**Alpharius**

This is a good one!

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update!

Posted by Jody Siegel (Creator)

Hey everyone. Just a quick update to keep you up to speed on what I've been working on.

Last weekend I got some excellent casts of the Death Knight. The weather right now is perfect for casting and I'm going to be cranking them out as much as I can before winter comes and ruins it. I'm going to create a sword variant for the model and then it's off to the casters.

I've also spent the last few weeks upgrading the website so that it can be navigated on mobile devices and finally doing a price adjustment on some miniatures. One of the things that's been bugging me for years and probably frustrating a lot of visitors was how badly the site was displayed if you were visiting from facebook or a forum on your phone.

I'm not sure how much forums are used these days to get miniature news or view new products. I suspect a lot more info is being shared through social media which I'm pretty bad at staying on top of, so I'm trying to catch up. But before I start posting and sharing wips of painted minis and sculptures I thought I'd better make the site viewable first.

If you're on your phone now and you'd like to check it out and provide feedback that would be great! imbrianarts.com

I also raised the prices on some miniatures. I'm one of those artists who's not the shrewdest business person when it comes to pricing and knowing how to market your products so I've neglected pricing for years. After a lot of looking around at what miniatures are being sold for elsewhere I adjusted some of the prices. It's still nowwhere near what GW is charging but closer to prices of minis if you're shopping with euros (since I'm not seeing a lot of american miniature manufacturers)

Neither of these will have any affect on backers' pledges but it was boring gruelling tedious work that was long overdue.

I hope you have a great weekend! I will be spending mine experimenting with some new paints that I received and hopefully putting out some WIPS of painted minis and if they look like they're turning out well, and if there's any interest, I'll do a step by step.

OK.