Flesh Tearers or Angels Encarmine for my Blood Angels?

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**Tyriion**

Hey guys, I'm currently in a dilemma about how to paint up my blood angels. I am torn between the awesomely violent Flesh Tearers and the Angels Encarmine, known for their unorthodox DC and Sanguinary guard colour schemes. I can't make a decision due to the AE having these very unique colour schemes, but a minuscule amount of Fluff, and the Tearers, who use the same somewhat boring DC and SG schemes, but have more fluff and a cooler design for normal assault and tactical marines. So, 40k players, what do you think would be a cooler and better choice? Below is a picture of the AE schemes.

**DeathReaper**

I do not like any of the alabaster armor on the marines.

I have not decided on an armor scheme for my Death company yes, so they are painted like my normal marines right now.

Either way I like the Flesh Tearers base armor colors more than the Angels Encarmine.

**Ronin**

The awesomely violent Flesh Tearers!

The choice would ultimately come down to if you're gonna use a lot of DC (and thus use the alabaster armour you like), or if you're more interested in the Tactical/Assault squads of the Flesh Tearers

**Fervor**

I like the look of the Angels Encarmine DC and SG so they get my vote.

**Lobokai**

AE. Very cool, tons of awesome white.

**Biaz**

Yeah I think seeing white Death Co. on the battlefield would look awesome! Also, Angels Encarmine are like your hipster Blood Angels. Pretty much look the same, but with little fluff you can do whatever you like with them.

**TheAngrySquig**

White DC are really hard to do well. Also Flesh Tearers are deadly violent killer marine badasses times infinity

**Tyriion**

I'll probably decide after the poll has about 25 votes. Anyone else want to give their opinion.

**Lord Rogukiel**

Either are really cool and personally I think they're both awesome choices. If it were me chosing, it would come down to whether or not I chose to have a lot of DC and SG in my army or not, and how much I like the white armour...

**Tyriion**

Im having probably a single 10 man squad of DC, and a single squad of SG, so its not really that much. I still can't decide, help me!

**Lord Rogukiel**

Well, what armies if any have you played before, and what were your colour schemes?

**Tyriion**

Lord Rogukiel wrote:
Well, what armies if any have you played before, and what were your colour schemes?

My IG are in a tan desert theme, and my NLs are obviously blue.

**thenoobbomb**

Angels Encarmine.
They look nicer and not everyone plays them.

**PredaKhaine**

I voted for Flesh Tearers - but thats on the proviso you drop some of the vehicles and replace them with things like stegadons from the fantasy lizardmen army. I love seeing well made dinosaur conversions in 40k. I'd do it myself if I didn't already have three different armies and a wife that'd kill me...
I'm already going to have to justify going for pre-heresy soon.
If dinosaurs aren't your thing then go Angels Encarmine - there's a lot less of them about and the paint scheme is good.
I like Angels Sanguine too.

**SoloFalcon1138**

If you do Flesh Tearers, are you going to use the obligatory razor-spam list? If so, who cares?

**PredaKhaine**

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:
If you do Flesh Tearers/Angels Encarmine, are you going to use the obligatory razor-spam list? If so, who cares?

Fixed that for you. What with them both being the same army n'all....

I'm sure the OP would appreciate more positive contributions

**Lord Rogukiel**

Tyriion wrote:
Lord Rogukiel wrote:
Well, what armies if any have you played before, and what were your colour schemes?

My IG are in a tan desert theme, and my NLs are obviously blue.

Hmmm, well I'd say go for Angels Encarmine. A really different theme that can be quite a challenge to paint well. Also it's a less common army and you have a bigger freedom with fluff. Really a chance to do some awesome customizations in every aspect.

**nerdfest09**

You could really do whatever you wanted with them, I personally liked the Flesh Tearers due to the savage nature of the force but didn't want to jump on the bandwagon so to speak, so after some research I concluded that an equally violent and unhinged chapter that had been around since RT days were the boys for me!

so I did the Flesh Eaters marines, and since they also don't have a lot of supporting fluff I decided to use the basic DC colours and just mix it up a bit to add some difference to my force! giving them black bodies and red arms and pads, you could do something similar if you wanted to have a point of difference with your FT's or you can just simply go with the AE and the alabaster armour? keep in mind they are both going to play the same it's just up to you how you wish to interperet them on the table

**Tyriion**

nerdfest09 wrote:
You could really do whatever you wanted with them, I personally liked the Flesh Tearers due to the savage nature of the force but didn't want to jump on the bandwagon so to speak, so after some research I concluded that an equally violent and unhinged chapter that had been around since RT days were the boys for me! so I did the Flesh Eaters marines, and since they also don't have a lot of supporting fluff I decided to use the basic DC colours and just mix it up a bit to add some difference to my force! giving them black bodies and red arms and pads, you could do something similar if you wanted to have a point of difference with your FT's or you can just simply go with the AE and the alabaster armour? keep in mind they are both going to play the same it's just up to you how you wish to interperet them on the table

You've supplied me with some good things to think about. I could do a FT force with AE SG and DC, or some other "hybrid" like force. Still torn though, ugh!

**nerdfest09**

Just take your time and have a good google at armies other's have done on the BA successors :-) you'll see something and just go "Yep, that's the force for me!" or you can choose an obscure Successor and still have the white DC or even perhaps Blood Drinkers who have yellow trim you could have yellow DC with red and black accents, the possibilities are endless! :-)

**alanmckenzie**

Yeh. Pretty much everything that nerdfest has said is good advice. When I was planning my BA successors I was really tempted by Angels Vermilion for similar reasons to nerdfest being drawn to Flesh Eaters. Mostly because they had very little background and I could've been quite creative with them. I ended up creating my own successor chapter because I decided that I wanted them to look quite distinct from BA and wanted to paint them mostly black (have a look at the recently started blog).

You can really do anything you like, and paint the dc or sang guard however you please. I would say that I don't particularly like the Flesh Tearers but that's just a personal thing. I prefer going with a more obscure successor. You can put your own fluff together, create your own characters and most importantly paint them however you like.

But good luck anyways, it'd be nice to hear and see what you decide to go with.

**Tyriion**

The Poll has been 50/50 through out all the time its been up. Now im in the closing stages of deciding, im leaning towards FT's due to the Tac and Assault colour schemes, the dominant black is really appealing to me, and where I am i know of no FT or BA successor chapter players. There has been some great reasons for AE though, with still leaves me in a dilemma. Lets see what the result is of the poll at around 55 votes...

**Tyriion**

So close. Lets call it at 60. Give me some reasons for FT's and AE!

**alanmckenzie**

AE. The white death company. You can convert your own zargo model, deciding whether to use the Dante, tycho or Seth rules. Which ever you prefer. They're much less common that ft. I don't like the ft chapter symbol. You can make up lots of your own characters and fluff without worrying that it's contradicting what's already written in BL novels.

Actually, I would say create your own chapter but you seem set on one of these two. I vote encarmine.

**captain collius**

Angels Encarmine look better IMHO.

However you can always get Gabriel Seth for Fleshtearers as a display piece

**funkyh**

I'm doing a flesh tearers battle company. Only a few priests away and I should be done as far as models... As far as the DC and SG, I'm going to do metallics because I think it would look good next to the crimson red armor. I will have boltgun metal DC and a bronzy SG with green/blue oxidation. It's your army man. Have fun and do what your heart desires.

**Tyriion**

The tables have turned, im really considering AE now. I love the colour scheme for the DC and SG, and the "freedom of fluff" will let me be able to expand my creative side. I might do the helmets in white rather than the traditional BA yellow. Any last thoughts?

**alanmckenzie**

You can do anything you like, white, gold, silver.... Whatever. I think that's why I prefer the freedom of a chapter that doesn't have too much written about it. You can do absolutely anything you like with any of your units.

But it's totally up to you. As long as you are happy, and enjoy building and painting your army. That's the important thing.

And I might be starting to agree with you about the white DC. You've given me something to think about for when I finally get round to my Death Company (ages away). I've just recently painted a Sanguinary Priest white and I do quite like the look.

But good luck with whatever you decide.

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**Tyriion**

Great photos, I could make my own Chapter, it's definitely a good idea. The way this is going , I'll likely do AE or a home brew chapter, it would take some good convincing to go FTs now.

**Tyriion**

Ive added "homebrew chapter" to the poll to get some opinions. Anyone think that is the way to go? EDIT: I realized there wasnt much point putting it on at this stage, when the poll has nearly 70 votes.