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M2/M3 Bradley?

I prefer a Boxer. Much safer.

 judgedoug wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I eagerly await the armies of zombie smuggler space monkeys.

I sure hope the committee can design the perfect troop transport for them.

That's pretty ironic, because the M2/M3 Bradley is arguable the best IFV in the world. It's fast, can bring infantry anywhere they're needed, is well-armored, and is powerful enough that a single Bradley can engage and defeat tanks. They are very robust, quick, and easy to repair; so much so that the US Government hasn't bought any in a decade or longer because any that are damaged are quickly repaired and back on the field.

So yeah give me a whole army of Bradleys.

So, design by committee and lowest common denominator don't always fail, I guess. It still made for a humorous 10 minutes.

In either case, this thread is demonstrating why it might not be ideal for model design...


I want my zombie pirate Boba Fett with fedora and trench coat or I'm out!

 Ravenblade666 wrote:

 Compel wrote:
They might take the Nano-Cat Ninjas as an actual idea...

Samurai Pizza cats?

I love Infinity, I would buy Samurai Pizza Cat figures. The Daktari for Infinity sold very well. It's a bit furry, but it sold triple what any other figure sold. Corbus Belli know how to sculpt power armor, too.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I am a fan of the pedigree of the designers ( I have a signed copy of the original Rogue Trader!), but I don;t see enough meat in this kickstarter to make me want to pledge for it. Which is too bad, really.

This. Way too many people are saying things like this and it worries me. Rick and co should be putting in some long hours to get that pre-alpha rulebook done. I told my friend who knows nothing about Warhammer about Gates of Antares, and he concurred with me; everything they're doing now they should have done before the launched the kickstarter.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

 shingouki wrote:


I think you need to wind your neck in a bit mate.The model is clearly a copy or in the very least "inspired by"solid snake .I want cool looking mini's as much as the next man not rip offs or dare i say the dreaded words ip infringement.The last thing we need is this projct getting funding from the community and then getting hammered by Konami.

I'm not sure what that means. Again, no offense was intended. And your new picture reinforces my earlier guess and my point that Hansa and Solid Snake only vaguely resemble each other. Sorry.

Hansa looks more like a Mass Effect character to me. But then, only vaguely at that.

Either way, I want to see more greens and finished art.

~Eric

 kenshin620 wrote:
After all I could stroll right in the GoA forum and propose an all female clone army in skintight stealth suits armed with beam katanas (btw I would really love to have that....dont judge me). More plausible than say sci fi greatcoats or zombies? Possibly. Would the forum community/developers feel comfortable with that idea? I'm gonna go on a limb and say no.

I'd be in favour as long as I got my multipart plastics, but reading the thread about including women in the game you can see the same divide between the two types of feminist as, for example, when you look at the discussion around Tropes Versus Women.

 judgedoug wrote:
No ammo or fuel either. I plan to confound my opponent into their eventual surrender.

With the world's most kickass hedge maze?

 AlexHolker wrote:

 kenshin620 wrote:
After all I could stroll right in the GoA forum and propose an all female clone army in skintight stealth suits armed with beam katanas (btw I would really love to have that....dont judge me). More plausible than say sci fi greatcoats or zombies? Possibly. Would the forum community/developers feel comfortable with that idea? I'm gonna go on a limb and say no.

I'd be in favour as long as I got my multipart plastics, but reading the thread about including women in the game you can see the same divide between the two types of feminist as, for example, when you look at the discussion around Tropes Versus Women.

Link?

http://www.darkspacecorp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=90

Its a 23 pager and counting.

Skimmed a couple of pages of it. It represents everything that's wrong with "...and YOU."

That woman in war thread is funny. If we went by how it really was today, female soldiers would have to be S2, would cost the same as the male troopers, and would never see major front line combat.

Yeah ran across that thread about a week ago, read about 10 pages so far, were not getting female troops guys, ever. At this rate the only female troops we will get are non-offensive head swaps.
But even then I'm sure somone will find an issue with it. The worst thing is this mentallity will probley spread across any race or suggested idea that features "female" concepts of any kind.

Looks like were not getting any "furry" troops either, seems like that idea is being slowly turned against, unless it looks like thunder cats that is.

Oh the possibilities....

Melcavuk wrote:http://www.darkspacecorp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=90

Its a 23 pager and counting.

Whelp I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole

Rolt wrote:
Looks like were not getting any "furry" troops either, seems like that idea is being slowly turned against, unless it looks like thunder cats that is.

Well it is the internet. Anthropomorphic beings are usually viewed in negative light because of some of the associated fans

Egads... that thread may be the single best argument against design by committee ever. The number of times posts have stated that the game should adopt a particular position to intentionally drive people away... Who in the world wants a game designed by committee, especially when the committee is those people?

The campaign needs to make 5,295 GBP per day every day that remains, in the last week, they only broke 2,500 GBP once. Realistically, they should be throwing a furry beach party.

The thing that really boggles my mind is the 300,000 GBP funding threshold. Whaaa? What in the world justifies that price point? 300,000 GBP ($476,266) is more then twice what DFG ended up making, and it's very difficult to see where that money is going.

It's not that it's a terrible deal, it's just that you can't tell what the heck it's supposed to be.


Nice graphics, nice layout, decent price point... but everything is so helter skelter...

Well it is the internet. Anthropomorphic beings are usually viewed in negative light because of some of the associated fans

Yeah I know, its just the way it is, a few "bad examples" ruin it for everyone else, same thing happens with anime, comics, sci-fi and even miniature wargames. Not really a hugh deal to me to be honest, after all if I really really wanted furry characters in my army I'll just convert/custom sculpt them, no need for a middle man.

Now the female representation thread is the part that worries me. On one hand I'm really imtrested in this project and love the idea of helping to create a miniatures game, now I can't write for the life of me, but I can draw and sculpt, so at least I'd try bring somthing to the table and be useful (maybe). But that "Tropes Versus Women" thread really sums up how I feel about joining in and the GoA community so far, its hard to describe but there just seems to be this werid "mentality" going on in the forums that I'm not clicking with, I really wish I could put it into words, sorry.

Who knows maybe its just me.

P.s go to the "Tropes Versus Women" thread that Melcavuk linked and check out the last post on page 5, go on, you can trust me....

 Rolt wrote:
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Looks like were not getting any "furry" troops either, seems like that idea is being slowly turned against, unless it looks like thunder cats that is.
...

Argggggggh. Stupid F'ers...

Why would they want to please a fandom that would throw veritable buckets of money at them. Who wants that? Not These guys, hell no, money is for Lutherans...

There is a huge non-fetish based furry fandom out there (a fandom, incidentally, that seems to be predominantly young women), a fandom that is, to the best of my knowledge, not served by any other TT gaming line. Court them? Nah, let's make the early highlight of the campaign a human male that is the very definition of generic. Seriously, anyone want to argue there is something that would preclude using the Hansa in 40k? Infinity? Heck, Relic Knights? He's a 'stache, a big gun and a pair of reverse chaps.

Sigh...

 kenshin620 wrote:

Melcavuk wrote:http://www.darkspacecorp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=90

Its a 23 pager and counting.

Whelp I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole

Rolt wrote:
Looks like were not getting any "furry" troops either, seems like that idea is being slowly turned against, unless it looks like thunder cats that is.

Well it is the internet. Anthropomorphic beings are usually viewed in negative light because of some of the associated fans

No idea what you're talking about

edit: removed

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

You might want to put that image in "Spoiler" brackets chris.

 Rolt wrote:
You might want to put that image in "Spoiler" brackets chris.

For all the prudes here, done.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

 Buzzsaw wrote:

There is a huge non-fetish based furry fandom out there (a fandom, incidentally, that seems to be predominantly young women), a fandom that is, to the best of my knowledge, not served by any other TT gaming line. Court them? Nah, let's make the early highlight of the campaign a human male that is the very definition of generic. Seriously, anyone want to argue there is something that would preclude using the Hansa in 40k? Infinity? Heck, Relic Knights? He's a 'stache, a big gun and a pair of reverse chaps.
Sigh...

Doesn't Infinity have a "furry" faction?


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 chris_valera wrote:

 Rolt wrote:
You might want to put that image in "Spoiler" brackets chris.

For all the prudes here, done.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

You know that people read this board from work, right?

The picture is better off being removed and left with a manual link since this thread doesn't otherwise require a NSFW tag. I wouldn't want that to suddenly be in my browser cache if I were reading Dakka from work.

 Buzzsaw wrote:

There is a huge non-fetish based furry fandom out there (a fandom, incidentally, that seems to be predominantly young women), a fandom that is, to the best of my knowledge, not served by any other TT gaming line. Court them? Nah, let's make the early highlight of the campaign a human male that is the very definition of generic. Seriously, anyone want to argue there is something that would preclude using the Hansa in 40k? Infinity? Heck, Relic Knights? He's a 'stache, a big gun and a pair of reverse chaps.

Sigh...

Just throw them at us, I'm happy to take people's money.

If there was enough demand for a sci-fi version of Brushfire, we'd develop it.

Though Brushfire is already pretty steampunky:

 chris_valera wrote:

 Rolt wrote:
You might want to put that image in "Spoiler" brackets chris.

For all the prudes here, done.

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

Prudes? That image is a textbook example of NSFW.

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:

There is a huge non-fetish based furry fandom out there (a fandom, incidentally, that seems to be predominantly young women), a fandom that is, to the best of my knowledge, not served by any other TT gaming line. Court them? Nah, let's make the early highlight of the campaign a human male that is the very definition of generic. Seriously, anyone want to argue there is something that would preclude using the Hansa in 40k? Infinity? Heck, Relic Knights? He's a 'stache, a big gun and a pair of reverse chaps.

Sigh...

Just throw them at us, I'm happy to take people's money.

If there was enough demand for a sci-fi version of Brushfire, we'd develop it.

Hehe, true enough. Just out of curiosity, what material are Brushfire miniatures, all metal still, I presume?

Edit: Whoa! I clearly am not up on what is going on in Brushfire... Never knew that big thing even existed...

 Buzzsaw wrote:

Why would they want to please a fandom that would throw veritable buckets of money at them. Who wants that? Not These guys, hell no, money is for Lutherans...

You know, I just thought about this - if Furries didn't fit the overall vision for the game, I think it'd be fair enough. The problem with this is that they apparently have little to no vision for the game, so it's devolving into "whoever yells loudest on the internet, wins!"

 scipio.au wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:

Why would they want to please a fandom that would throw veritable buckets of money at them. Who wants that? Not These guys, hell no, money is for Lutherans...

You know, I just thought about this - if Furries didn't fit the overall vision for the game, I think it'd be fair enough. The problem with this is that they apparently have little to no vision for the game, so it's devolving into "whoever yells loudest on the internet, wins!"

Yup. Seems to be the problem with this campaign in a nutshell. Okay, in fairness, one of the problems.

 scipio.au wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:

Why would they want to please a fandom that would throw veritable buckets of money at them. Who wants that? Not These guys, hell no, money is for Lutherans...

You know, I just thought about this - if Furries didn't fit the overall vision for the game, I think it'd be fair enough. The problem with this is that they apparently have little to no vision for the game, so it's devolving into "whoever yells loudest on the internet, wins!"

Yeah, but it's Dark Space Corp that pushing the monkey-men and dog-people. Is it any wonder the furries aren't that far behind?

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

 Buzzsaw wrote:

There is a huge non-fetish based furry fandom out there (a fandom, incidentally, that seems to be predominantly young women), a fandom that is, to the best of my knowledge, not served by any other TT gaming line.

Brushfire Rodentia is pretty awesome if you want a game with anthro minis.

Either google it or PM Cyporiean if you'd like some more info, she runs the company that makes it and is very active on Dakka.

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Just throw them at us, I'm happy to take people's money.

If there was enough demand for a sci-fi version of Brushfire, we'd develop it

Good point Cyp, why aren't you creating a skirmish miniatures game with furry, human and alien characters all working together fighting bizarre sci-fi monsters and robots. Well Cyp get to it.

If you ever want help with a project like that,' I'd be very interested.

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:

There is a huge non-fetish based furry fandom out there (a fandom, incidentally, that seems to be predominantly young women), a fandom that is, to the best of my knowledge, not served by any other TT gaming line. Court them? Nah, let's make the early highlight of the campaign a human male that is the very definition of generic. Seriously, anyone want to argue there is something that would preclude using the Hansa in 40k? Infinity? Heck, Relic Knights? He's a 'stache, a big gun and a pair of reverse chaps.

Sigh...

Just throw them at us, I'm happy to take people's money.

If there was enough demand for a sci-fi version of Brushfire, we'd develop it.

Though Brushfire is already pretty steampunky:

These are decent, but not great. The proportions are all off, some figures aren't large enough, while some are way too large, the figure on the right, for example. And I don't know what's up with the mech-suit...

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

 Buzzsaw wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:

There is a huge non-fetish based furry fandom out there (a fandom, incidentally, that seems to be predominantly young women), a fandom that is, to the best of my knowledge, not served by any other TT gaming line. Court them? Nah, let's make the early highlight of the campaign a human male that is the very definition of generic. Seriously, anyone want to argue there is something that would preclude using the Hansa in 40k? Infinity? Heck, Relic Knights? He's a 'stache, a big gun and a pair of reverse chaps.

Sigh...

Just throw them at us, I'm happy to take people's money.

If there was enough demand for a sci-fi version of Brushfire, we'd develop it.

Hehe, true enough. Just out of curiosity, what material are Brushfire miniatures, all metal still, I presume?

Edit: Whoa! I clearly am not up on what is going on in Brushfire... Never knew that big thing even existed...

Its getting to be an even split between metal and resin, the bigger stuff is Resins and most of the smaller kits are still metal. We're slowly working towards getting away from metal. The big thing is a 'Valkyr' clockwork mech, piloted by Gerbils.

Furry faction, no some models representing humans done extreme prosthetic surgery, yes, even then there is only a single unit that could really be described close to furrie.

If all Nomads, or indeed any faction were all "furries" the point of an individual going to the extreme (something like somebody going to extreme tattoo/ piercing at present day) as are the Bakunin moderators or Chimeras would be lost and it would simple be something normal and mundane.

Now can anthropomorphic factions exist in any setting or indeed wargame? yes, question is how soft or hard one wants the setting to be.

Gate of Antares, despite my positive comments here has an identity crisis to the outside observer and does not give enough information to were it wants to head,

 scarletsquig wrote:

 Buzzsaw wrote:

There is a huge non-fetish based furry fandom out there (a fandom, incidentally, that seems to be predominantly young women), a fandom that is, to the best of my knowledge, not served by any other TT gaming line.

Brushfire Rodentia is pretty awesome if you want a game with anthro minis.

Either google it or PM Cyporiean if you'd like some more info, she runs the company that makes it and is very active on Dakka.

Oh, you misunderstand, it's less an interest in an as yet unfilled desire of mine, as pointing out that given the funding needs of Beyond, it's folly to turn away anyone.

They aren't at the "Priestly is turning tricks* in the alley" stage, but they are not looking good for actually funding this.



*I'm not sure if that idiom exists outside of the US, "turning tricks" is a somewhat older slang for engaging in acts of prostitution.


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 Cyporiean wrote:
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Its getting to be an even split between metal and resin, the bigger stuff is Resins and most of the smaller kits are still metal. We're slowly working towards getting away from metal. The big thing is a 'Valkyr' clockwork mech, piloted by Gerbils.

See, now that's just many shades of awesome.