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 squall018 wrote:
Gameplay video looks legit. I wonder if you can get more tiles and have the rules allow you to make a bigger game.

As do I. They mentioned it was s simple scenario/demonstration so I'm sure there'll be rules for more complex/bigger games.

Looks solid overall.

I wished the structuring (and back and forth between players) of the video was better, but gave a good impression of how the game is played.

The rules look promising though.

 DaveC wrote:
Closer look at the painted miniatures by James Wappell the guy who painted them http://wappellious.blogspot.ie/ he's going to post further pictures and painting instructions. Although for this project each side comes in different coloured plastic so there's no need to paint them if you don't want to.

Must admit a caved and backed the project I juggled a few other pledges to find the funds

Huh. Almost looks like Tulle painting more than traditional miniatures painting style.

Looks great! I'm in.... It's got a "Advance Wars/Famicom" wars vibe to it, and that's some great lineage right there. The fact it's an alt WWI is a plus, you rarely see those out there in the market.

Was thinking of pledging, game looks good, love the artwork.

Pledge levels really put me off, $115 dollars to get the retail box version early, $175 dollars for not much more than at $115, Oh and on top of that, being basically told that if you want the majority of the goodness, you have to pay the big bucks.

From the KS wording it seems that most of the extras will end up in the retail box anyway...

I don't know, they just haven't really tempted me to stump up the cash yet...

I think we will see a lot more stretch goals for the $150 tier as they increase rather then being for the boxed version. I would expect a few more generals and maybe a vert tank for both factions to be exclusive to that tier at least. We are only a couple of days in and still lots more stretch goals to come . Both zombicide and sedition wars had box upgrades for the early stretch goals and the 'sweetspot' exclusives for the later goals (like we are already seeing with the additional infantry).

One thing to note for the European backers, Coolmini have confirmed that all EU copies will be sent from Europe so whilst we have to pay the $25 postage costs (to take into account the extra cost of shipping the container to Europe and the taxes they will incur) we won't have to pay any import tax on the actual game (was charged a small fortune in tax for zombicide). I know that I was a lot more inclined to back Rivet Wars because of that.

So I was reading through the comments on the KS page, and CMON said that the game would come with things like barbed wire and tank traps which will add some depth to the movement aspect of the game which is great. The gameplay video was awesome, but since it was the tutorial was pretty simple. Glad to know they already have a few wrinkled planned.

This is pretty awesome, but I'm cleaned out with Bones, Sedition Wars and especially KD:M. I'll keep an eye on this for the heck of it.

I think they should make the figures pre-painted. There have been plenty of nice figures on established games and kickstarter projects for any painter, pro or amateur, to occupy the time already.

wildger wrote:
I think they should make the figures pre-painted. There have been plenty of nice figures on established games and kickstarter projects for any painter, pro or amateur, to occupy the time already.

I for one am glad they aren't pre painted as I like the painting aspect but I understand its not for everyone. They will be color coded per army so at least will be easy to tell apart. I believe they also adressed this in the KS comments and pretty much said (i'm paraphrasing) they would just come in an army color and not prepainted.

 Leigen_Zero wrote:
Oh and on top of that, being basically told that if you want the majority of the goodness, you have to pay the big bucks.

More than half of the stretch goals have been basic box upgrades, not the higher level upgrade.

wildger wrote:
I think they should make the figures pre-painted. There have been plenty of nice figures on established games and kickstarter projects for any painter, pro or amateur, to occupy the time already.

Count me on the list of people very happy they're not pre-paints.

I really see no reason why to go to the extra cost of having them prepainted, as a board game and that is what it is, colour coding is the acceptable industry standard.

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
I really see no reason why to go to the extra cost of having them prepainted, as a board game and that is what it is, colour coding is the acceptable industry standard.

Not only that, but too often pre-paints just dont look good.

 cincydooley wrote:

 PsychoticStorm wrote:
I really see no reason why to go to the extra cost of having them prepainted, as a board game and that is what it is, colour coding is the acceptable industry standard.

Not only that, but too often pre-paints just dont look good.

Thats true, and if it doens't look good, I at least want it to be MY fault

+1 on it not being pre-painted.

Me, I personally hope that they release the prussian tank as a stand alone buy, as that thing looks awesome!

 Salacious Greed wrote:
+1 on it not being pre-painted.

Me, I personally hope that they release the prussian tank as a stand alone buy, as that thing looks awesome!

I have a feeling you will be able to buy most of this stuff without buying the whole game. They already have a few rivet things you can buy separately, so it would make sense that they would sell these as well. I guess we'll see soon. I hope so since I think 24 soldiers would be plenty for me, I might want to have a few more tanks/ bikes for some bigger games.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Leigen_Zero wrote:
Oh and on top of that, being basically told that if you want the majority of the goodness, you have to pay the big bucks.

More than half of the stretch goals have been basic box upgrades, not the higher level upgrade.

Pledge $150 or more
Blizkreig! A copy of Rivet Wars, 2 promo Heroes not available in the base game and 2 Faction patches. This level will attract the most stretch goal bonuses (hint, hint).

All I'm saying is they don't have to have make a single stretch goal available below blitzkreig level for the rest of the campaign and no-one can do squat. Maybe it's just because I'm very skeptical and untrusting of any form of company.

 warboss wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

Confrontation will hit 4 to 5 million. That game has a huge cult following, being made in plastic will only make it that much more popular.

I think this is definitely right. I think they're not ready to do it yet though. My understanding is that they're going to do the Wrath of Kings KS next and then Confrontation after. I think. And, depending on how the models look and how many of the very hard to get models they release, I think $4-5M is about right, and potentially conservative.

Confrontation kickstarter? Wow... so when do the other snazzy looking but failed games of the last 15 years get kickstarted? Vor, Warzone, AT-43... Confrontation already had its chance in plastic so I'm not sure what another run in plastic will do for it when the first drove it into the ground.

CMoN actually own the rights to (many? most of?) the metal Confrontation Minis and IP. Not sure about the plastics or the rules, etc. A lot of those failed games weren't down to the rules, games or models, but incompetent management. It'd actually be quite a smart move for CMoN to revive Confrontation via a Kickstarter.


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wildger wrote:
I think they should make the figures pre-painted. There have been plenty of nice figures on established games and kickstarter projects for any painter, pro or amateur, to occupy the time already.

Treat it like a boardgame (which it is) rather than a miniatures game. Now we just need to see if it'll be a boardgame worth the asking price(s).

 cincydooley wrote:
It's intriguing to me that the Blitzkreig level is simply more "stuff" at this point, and more specifically most of it is extras of what is already there. I like the notion of upping the core box as much as possible and going every other one for the upgrades.

I'm impressed by how they're running it so far. I plan to buy the core box when it's released, so Core Box upgrades are sweet. And I like the fact that the heroes aren't exclusive to the KS or highest backers, because that would nibble at my buyer's conscience.

They sure are tempting me to pledge Blitzkrieg, though...

Looks like we hit the 150k stretch goal earlier today.

Yep. Plastic tokens all round.

Next stop - more dice!

Kingdom Death is over. Many eyes now turn to Rivet Wars.

Let it begin anew.



Next goal.

More dice are nice, but I think the two following ones are the ones people will actually care about. Hopefully this will pick up even more with KDM over now.

Also a liitle off topic, but how are you guys posting pics on here. I was trying to put the 150k announcement and apparently I'm not smart enough to figure out how to post pics...

If your prepared to hang around on the KS tonight there seems to be a few early birds opening up I picked 1 up about an hour ago I suspect people who backed both KD:M and Rivet Wars are dropping out for now after seeing how much they just pledged to KD:M

 squall018 wrote:
Also a liitle off topic, but how are you guys posting pics on here. I was trying to put the 150k announcement and apparently I'm not smart enough to figure out how to post pics...

[ img ]IMAGEURL[ /url ]

Like that but without the spaces inside the [ ]

Edit: Blitzkrieg Early Bird is available!

Edit 2: And now it's gone.

 squall018 wrote:
More dice are nice, but I think the two following ones are the ones people will actually care about. Hopefully this will pick up even more with KDM over now.

Also a liitle off topic, but how are you guys posting pics on here. I was trying to put the 150k announcement and apparently I'm not smart enough to figure out how to post pics...

put [imgX]the address of the image, just right click on it and look at properties[/imgX]

remove the Xs to get it to work, this hotlinks the image from wherever it's hosted

 scipio.au wrote:


CMoN actually own the rights to (many? most of?) the metal Confrontation Minis and IP. Not sure about the plastics or the rules, etc. A lot of those failed games weren't down to the rules, games or models, but incompetent management. It'd actually be quite a smart move for CMoN to revive Confrontation via a Kickstarter.
(s).

My understanding based on speaking to some of the Devs and Dave at GenCon is that Confrontation has a lot of work to be done to make it ready. Granted, this was 6 months ago, but the word was that a lot of the moulds were in......rough shape. Apparently some of them went to the company that bought the IP after Rackham went under and, not being a miniatures company, they weren't treated with the greatest of care.

I think Confron would actually benefit from a Kickstarter as it sounded like there was a lot to do to get the minis ready.

Rivet wars. Eff me. Ill just keep reminding myself it doesn't pay until the end of Feb. :-)

Really have my hopes out for this one, presses alot of my buttons, just hope the stretch goals and pledge rewards are up to snuff as they seem a little uninspired at the moment.

I think they are getting all the basic (boring) game upgrades such as plastic markers and tokens out the way early on and I would be very suprised if we didnt see a lot more interesting stretch goals popping up.