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 insaniak wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They have a... bump... on the inside. And the arms have a corresponding recess. Obviously anyone who's not hilariously incompetent can shave/drill the arms on his regular termies to fit the pads, but it's still a hassle.

I see the recess on the arms, but it's only on some of them... and I'm not seeing any bump on the inside of the pads.

Given that the recess looks to be a different size and shape on each arm, I'm thinking it's intended for some other purpose than locating the shoulder pad. Can't for the life of me think what though.

The matched pads are all for the shield arms. It is specifically for the Deathwing Knights. This was described in the WD in the model preview section. The shoulder heraldry and the shield heraldry are matched up.

My guess is that the rest of the pads will be standard.

 d-usa wrote:


Since they are switching to more digital sculpting I would imagine that they have a basic shape rendered in that pose and just add the decorations/armor for each army...

Sad but true.

GW wasn't creative with poses and recycled arms and other body parts.....rarely whole mini's .. its just a step further...

 Formosa wrote:
so i bought the 3 boxs of DW and Belial, a nephilim and the limited codex, this was impulse i must admit, then i looked online and saw all the massivly cheaper deals out there and decided to cancel my order, i called GW and told them, the person on the phone asked me "why", I told him that the fact that i had bought so much and didnt get the same discount online that i wanted to cancel and purchase the items online, this will allow me to purchase another nephilim with the money i would save, so the person on the phone said "ok, to save your custom, we can throw in another nephilim"

GW prices are mad, GW customer service is excellent.

good job that man, i will be sending in a letter to say thank you

thought i would share

That is excellent, thanks for sharing!

Threw in a free plane? That’s interesting.

 Formosa wrote:
so i bought the 3 boxs of DW and Belial, a nephilim and the limited codex, this was impulse i must admit, then i looked online and saw all the massivly cheaper deals out there and decided to cancel my order, i called GW and told them, the person on the phone asked me "why", I told him that the fact that i had bought so much and didnt get the same discount online that i wanted to cancel and purchase the items online, this will allow me to purchase another nephilim with the money i would save, so the person on the phone said "ok, to save your custom, we can throw in another nephilim"

GW prices are mad, GW customer service is excellent.

good job that man, i will be sending in a letter to say thank you

thought i would share

Really? That's great of them to do so. Probably wanted to keep the limited codex "limited" instead of a re-adding one to the website.

 Formosa wrote:
so i bought the 3 boxs of DW and Belial, a nephilim and the limited codex, this was impulse i must admit, then i looked online and saw all the massivly cheaper deals out there and decided to cancel my order, i called GW and told them, the person on the phone asked me "why", I told him that the fact that i had bought so much and didnt get the same discount online that i wanted to cancel and purchase the items online, this will allow me to purchase another nephilim with the money i would save, so the person on the phone said "ok, to save your custom, we can throw in another nephilim"

GW prices are mad, GW customer service is excellent.

good job that man, i will be sending in a letter to say thank you

thought i would share

As much as I don't like a lot of things GW do, That is very good, and I applaud them for that.

Hope the letter gets him promoted and not fired!

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Hope the letter gets him promoted and not fired!

So true...

 Ronin_eX wrote:
The matched pads are all for the shield arms. It is specifically for the Deathwing Knights. This was described in the WD in the model preview section. The shoulder heraldry and the shield heraldry are matched up.

My guess is that the rest of the pads will be standard.

That doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, the holes are on the Mace Wielding arms, so you could still easily combine the wrong shield with the wrong shoulder pad, further, given the way most storm bolters are included in the kit, you would have to use those arms with the concave shoulders for your storm bolter wielding Deathwing much the same as your Mace Wielding Deathwing.

Also note that the Storm Bolter on the second frame (the one with the scope) has the same recessed area as does at least one powerfist on the third frame, this is noteworthy because the Storm Bolter and Power Fist are left handed, while the others that feature this are all right handed, and further the Storm Bolter or the Powerfist almost certainly wont be able to pair with a Storm Shield.

Just wondering if any one has heard anything about Azreal?
Surely he is gunna have a model update? Maybe in a later wave? I dont know how old his current model is but it was certainly around when I started collecting dark angels!

Azrael has a model update, its the DV same as Ezekial, both the liby and the "captain" are easy standins for both of those Special characters.

Now as to a "official" updates, maybe one day, but not anytime soon i think

 Scrollax wrote:
Just wondering if any one has heard anything about Azreal? Surely he is gunna have a model update?

Why update a model when you can simply remake him in FineCost, up his cost by 30%, and keep selling a 15 year-old sculpt.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Scrollax wrote:
Just wondering if any one has heard anything about Azreal? Surely he is gunna have a model update?

Why update a model when you can simply remake him in FineCost, up his cost by 30%, and keep selling a 15 year-old sculpt.

In that particular case, the model has aged quite well. I' d hate seeing him bow legged and carrying a sacristy on his back to out do the awkwardness and overblinging that his subordinate Belial has.

 Formosa wrote:
so i bought the 3 boxs of DW and Belial, a nephilim and the limited codex, this was impulse i must admit, then i looked online and saw all the massivly cheaper deals out there and decided to cancel my order, i called GW and told them, the person on the phone asked me "why", I told him that the fact that i had bought so much and didnt get the same discount online that i wanted to cancel and purchase the items online, this will allow me to purchase another nephilim with the money i would save, so the person on the phone said "ok, to save your custom, we can throw in another nephilim"

GW prices are mad, GW customer service is excellent.

good job that man, i will be sending in a letter to say thank you

thought i would share

One thing I'll always give GW credit for is excellent customer service. As much as one may have issues with their policies, models, rules, etc, the customer service guys are always great.

I can't tell you how much I love that Terminator Box.

With or without robes.

Some close combat weapons.

All of the shooty choices. (I have plenty of standard terminator arms already, CCW or Powerfist/stormbolter). Very nice box. Can also make some nice HQ models from this box. With my DV box, I'll take this and mix/match with normal terminators for a small fallen DA army to go with my Chaos Space marines. BAM!

 Scrollax wrote:
Just wondering if any one has heard anything about Azreal?
Surely he is gunna have a model update? Maybe in a later wave? I dont know how old his current model is but it was certainly around when I started collecting dark angels!

Mid 2nd edition, 1995? Around the time I got out (the first time i got out that is...)

Welp GW's Dark Angels honeymoon was quick. Horrid Hobbit mini's are the new rage on their websites main page now. $50 for two eagles ahoy!!!

To be fair, they have never had eagle models before in the exact same pose.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 JOHIRA wrote:

I go to the product description for say the Dark Talon and the Darkshroud (oh good, Wardian naming conventions....)

Can I Wolfy-Wolf-sig that?

Go for it.

 Ozymandias wrote:
To be fair, they have never had eagle models before in the exact same pose.

You typed that with a straight face?

This is really something that has become more apparent over the last few releases, but this one really drove it home for me. GW minis have really lost their soul.

Don't get me wrong, I think GW makes some of the best (if not the best) plastic models and kits our there. The amount of bits they are now able to put on a sprue is insane, and the ways you can customize your models just by buying a single box is awesome. GW seems to be able to put insane amounts of details on their miniatures, even though at times it feels like we get detail for the sake of detail. GW is leading the market when it comes to plastic kits and minatures.

But even though they are releasing models with tons of details and are able to come up with good themes to tie them together, they just seem soulless to me. That GW feel is gone IMO. You can still tell they are GW minis, but that individual character of the sculptor seems to be gone.

I remember when you could look at a model and know who sculpted it. I also remember a time where people were less concerned about who wrote the codex/army book, instead we were trying to figure out who was doing the models. Certain sculptors "got" the feelings and aesthetic of an army and that connection came through and was evident in the final mini. That is something that I have not seen in a while now.

I guess loosing that is a byproduct of loosing individually sculptured models and getting a box of 10 marines that could be used to make two separate choices of the base model and then customize it beyond that.

It appears the Dark Angels will not get access to Ironclad Dreadnoughts or a Stormraven. There's probably other things as well, but these are the two that stuck out to me.

Anyone know why they would do that?

 kronk wrote:
I can't tell you how much I love that Terminator Box.

With or without robes.

Some close combat weapons.

All of the shooty choices. (I have plenty of standard terminator arms already, CCW or Powerfist/stormbolter). Very nice box. Can also make some nice HQ models from this box. With my DV box, I'll take this and mix/match with normal terminators for a small fallen DA army to go with my Chaos Space marines. BAM!

I think it's a great box, but only a single Thunder Hammer and pair of lightning claws is a little bit underwhelming given how loaded out the GK box is with weapon options, and that the Deathwing saw a significant price bump in most regions (only $1 more than normal termies in Aus)

The standout for me is the ravenwing box, looks really great, even seems to come with spare banner pole things and kind of a spare front shield (would require some converting) which will be great for doing up attack bikes in the new style, and a ton of other cool bits, like that drum fed bolt pistol, which I'm sure some other models will be stealing in my army, nice bits for making an on-foot apothecary if you don't use him amongst your 3 bikers, a bunch of heads/helmets, the saddle bags and melta bombs, a couple of nice swords, just a wonderful kit that will go well beyond the 3 guys you make from it IMO.

DerVorsitzender wrote:
It appears the Dark Angels will not get access to Ironclad Dreadnoughts or a Stormraven. There's probably other things as well, but these are the two that stuck out to me.

Anyone know why they would do that?

Maybe because the Stormraven is a GK/BA only thing? I mean, that is right in the fluff for that unit, that only two "factions" have access to it.

And I always assumed that the Ironclad was a more "siege" dreadnought, which dose not really fit the DA style of fighting.

Guys the reason we didnt see any Azreal or Ezekiel models is the basically gave us them in Dark Vengeance I mean didnt you look at the company master he had the winged helm and combi plasma and the librarian had the same look as Ezekiel so i dont know tell me what you think

 Happygrunt wrote:

DerVorsitzender wrote:
It appears the Dark Angels will not get access to Ironclad Dreadnoughts or a Stormraven. There's probably other things as well, but these are the two that stuck out to me.

Anyone know why they would do that?

Maybe because the Stormraven is a GK/BA only thing? I mean, that is right in the fluff for that unit, that only two "factions" have access to it.

And I always assumed that the Ironclad was a more "siege" dreadnought, which dose not really fit the DA style of fighting.

I hadn't known the fluff you speak of!! I somehow was under the impression...nvm. I bought one and painted it Deathwing, I was hoping i'd be able to use it. Oh well, only in local friendlies is fine by me.

I still have a complaint with the Ironclad. Yes, I have some of those painted up to.

DerVorsitzender wrote:
It appears the Dark Angels will not get access to Ironclad Dreadnoughts or a Stormraven. There's probably other things as well, but these are the two that stuck out to me.

Anyone know why they would do that?

Why no Storm Raven?

1. Because it's a GK/Blood Angels only vehicle.

2. DA were given the Storm Eagle Assault Gunship instead.

Why no Ironclad?

No idea. They get troop Terminators, variant Land Speeders, and lots of bikes, though. That's pretty cool.

 Happygrunt wrote:
And I always assumed that the Ironclad was a more "siege" dreadnought, which dose not really fit the DA style of fighting.

Not so, in fact the Dark Angels designed a new Land Raider variant by sticking a Demolisher cannon on the front specifically for siege breaking, I mean it's not a particularly good variant but they did it.

 Drunkspleen wrote:

 Happygrunt wrote:
And I always assumed that the Ironclad was a more "siege" dreadnought, which dose not really fit the DA style of fighting.

Not so, in fact the Dark Angels designed a new Land Raider variant by sticking a Demolisher cannon on the front specifically for siege breaking, I mean it's not a particularly good variant but they did it.

Long aog in epic the DAs had an all tank company, the Iron Wing. Now gone... just like their American Indian heritage and all black banners...

Seriously the DAs have had more ret cons than any other chapter.

 Drunkspleen wrote:

 kronk wrote:
I can't tell you how much I love that Terminator Box.

With or without robes.

Some close combat weapons.

All of the shooty choices. (I have plenty of standard terminator arms already, CCW or Powerfist/stormbolter). Very nice box. Can also make some nice HQ models from this box. With my DV box, I'll take this and mix/match with normal terminators for a small fallen DA army to go with my Chaos Space marines. BAM!

I think it's a great box, but only a single Thunder Hammer and pair of lightning claws is a little bit underwhelming given how loaded out the GK box is with weapon options, and that the Deathwing saw a significant price bump in most regions (only $1 more than normal termies in Aus)

The $70 price (Cdn) is ridiculous, but if a person bought the new DA box and an Assault Terminator box, you'd end up with two solid five man squads, plus a bunch of bits leftover.