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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 18:54:21
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Camouflaged Ariadna Scout
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HisDivineShadow wrote:I can't remember I'd this has been stated as of yet, but the pics of the apc box made me wonder.
Does it have working steering post assembly?
Check out the pics that Dwartist posted. It has linked movable steering, and rotating wheels. Assuming you do painting properly you will be able to do both post assembly/painting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 21:02:01
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Been Around the Block
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HisDivineShadow wrote:I can't remember I'd this has been stated as of yet, but the pics of the apc box made me wonder.
Does it have working steering post assembly?
The front wheels are steerable, yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 21:06:45
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Las Vegas
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I think he means, "does the steering wheel turn with the front wheels?"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 21:34:07
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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MrMoustaffa wrote:what are the tank huntresses/black widows going to be for msrp? Really liked the box I got and kind of wished I had gotten a second box. Couldn't find it on the dreamforge site.
If they're the same thing as Panzerjäger, Mark listed them as available in April.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 03:27:28
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Happy dance! Just got my 3 APCs and Tank Huntresses!
It's been a long 2 years, almost to the day, and a long 10 years since I saw Mark's titans but I'm happy!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 04:18:21
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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So, just throwing this out there, but WGF shock troops would make a nice opposing force to tide everyone over until the Shadokesh drop. Don't you think? Bet WGF would be happy to have rules for their in house sci fi line.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 04:25:51
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Or WGF survivors as a scruffy militia/freedom fighters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 05:05:12
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Just saw them on the warstore, but i am not sure if they have them in stock yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 05:31:52
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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WGF Russians would make a natural low-tech, high-numbers enemy.
Isn't Iron Core going to have some space soviets? I can't wait.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:18:36
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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New update:
Update #144
Jan 21 2015
Sooooooo what’s next?
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First to current issues and events:
We are almost out of the woods with this Kickstarter, we have some instruction errors, part# errors and some other problems to rectify. Let’s just say I am not breathing easy yet. Some of you may have noticed the 15mm scale Leviathan Mortis did not have the Capacitor Cooler included with the shipment. I am working with WGF to rectify that issue.
Current Retail Release:
WGF has added The APC, the three Valkir kits, the 15mm Mortis and all nine 15mm weapons to their order form for next month. You may have seen some stores accepting pre-orders for these items.
The current retail release does not include all of wave 3. There is another shipment that is expected early to mid-March for the Command Squad, the Panzerjager, the Thor and Odin/Loki kits. I am anticipating an April retail release for these four kits.
Despite the bumps, I am very happy to finally see these kits in your hands and look forward to sending them out for review and feedback from the various gaming news sites.
Wall of text and eye candy incoming….
What’s next?
Two more kits for the Eisenkern faction to round out the force selection. I think we have the Infantry component pretty much filled, between the Basic trooper sets, the Valkir sets and specialty sets like the Panzerjager and support weapons set, we can get a pretty balance force. The glaring hole in the faction is the armor section. We have a super heavy slot filled by the Leviathans but nothing in the light and medium armor selection.
The APC is a bit of an odd duck, armored like a main battle tank, it lacks offensive punch. The Thor adds that but it is a one shot per game weapon as the reload times are simply too long. The Odin Loki does a fine job of adding sustainable firepower but the open top is a severe weakness. If you run around without an infantry escort or a vanilla Keilerkopf to provide protection. Feral Shadokesh can easily scramble up the sides of the vehicle and make short work of the crew.
The two kits planned to round out the force selection are, a light walker, about 3.5” tall (you can see it under the foot of the Leviathan Mortis in the box art for that kit). This will be the light armor choice. The medium armor slot will be filled by the StuG, both hover and tracked (pictured on the Valkir 20 man box set). Before you ask, there is not a release date set for either of these kits yet, these will likely be released at the tail end of the Shadokesh releases. I hope to release an accessory kit for the Valkir and eventually the Shadokesh as well as a modular building set similar to what you have seen in the Mortis box art.
Both I and WGF are quite eager to begin work immediately on the Shadokesh. As the backlog of Kickstarter work they took on is finally coming to its fruition, there will be time for them to dedicate energy towards the next set of releases in a far steadier and less pressured manner. This will make it much easier for us to start planning regular quarterly releases.
As I have eluded to; the Shadokesh are the second faction for the ‘ICU’ Iron Core Universe. Brutal and efficient, their gaunt frame towers in at roughly 9’ tall. I have been reworking the base model for the Shadokesh trooper as the Shadokesh and Handler did not come across as strong as I had wished. After much tweaking I am happy with the base model pictured here. These are still a work in progress but I should be able to get these over to WGF fairly soon. The CAD program I use does hard surface modeling with ease but organic items like their hands and the fabric are better dealt with in Zbrush. These have not been through the Zbrush process yet, so the fabrics rough form is blocked in but the details and small folds have yet to be added.
The Iron Core Game: ICU-Ion Core Universe
Robey Jenkis over at Precinctomega has been working with me over the last year to come up with an enjoyable game that allows the use of massive models like the Leviathan to play well with all those squishy infantry and not rule the table. He delivered an innovative system that deals with that very challenging problem. I like it, I like it quite a bit. I had an opportunity to play a few friendly games and the resource system works as it should to help balance the uber vs. the squishy.
Robey delivered the core system; unit selection, movement, morale, combat, and turn sequence. Based on my experience, there are some tweaks I would like to make and some areas I will actually be attempting to incorporate even deeper into the system than Robey had done initially. Without going into too much detail, there is a resource management aspect that is key to the game but was troubling me, felt like an aspect that was clunky to track as it needed to be managed turn to turn. My intent is to integrate this even further, making it part of the decision making, activation and reaction system, removing it mentally and structurally from the status of a ‘trackable item’ and interweaving it into the game play so that it feels and plays like an integrated part of the game play. That is my hope at least….
There are other rule sections I need to put flesh on, campaign rules, vehicle and unit design rules, rules for generating your own ‘Household’ within the Eisenkern faction, as buildings are on the list of kits I will need to develop rules for that aspect as well, to make terrain an integral part of the experience.
I have a new forum, I still need to add content to so I am not quite ready to post the link. I will use this forum for rules discussion and play testing feedback.
For those of you who have been following this process for some time, you know that I have had two other forums, both died horrible deaths due to database corruption at the hands of the hosting service. I have moved away from that host and signed with one that is experience with forum maintenance, which performs daily backups. Hopefully we will avoid the wasted time and energy associated with a corrupted database. When it is complete, when I have content and am ready to open the game to Alpha testing I will post here again with the address.
Thank you again for all your support.
Mark-
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 13:24:35
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 14:01:20
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Dankhold Troggoth
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Those new Shadokesh are legit. Not totally sure about the vents on the back armor (I hope they get some detailing, like features on their sides) and he mentioned the cloaks are in-progress. But I like them much more now, actually very interested in them! Someone has to fight all you guy's massive Leviathan and infantry armies
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 14:01:21
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Martial Arts SAS
United Kingdom
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Sweet!
Somebody wake up O'Neil!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 14:13:12
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
I don't even KNOW anymore.
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Oh man, I want those.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 14:31:22
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Can we skip the tanks and go directly to the Shadokesh?
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Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 14:42:52
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Update #144
Jan 21 2015
Sooooooo what’s next?
The two kits planned to round out the force selection are, a light walker, about 3.5” tall (you can see it under the foot of the Leviathan Mortis in the box art for that kit). This will be the light armor choice. The medium armor slot will be filled by the StuG, both hover and tracked (pictured on the Valkir 20 man box set). Before you ask, there is not a release date set for either of these kits yet, these will likely be released at the tail end of the Shadokesh releases.
Apparently we can.
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Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 14:54:54
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Reading fail on my part. Awesome!
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Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 14:55:50
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Hallowed Canoness
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At long last, the end of the road! Beauty gents!
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
SoB, IG, SM, SW, Nec, Cus, Tau, FoW Germans, Team Yankee Marines, Battletech Clan Wolf, Mercs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 15:36:58
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Las Vegas
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The end of THIS road.
I need to order a bunch of APCs before we start down that next trail, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 15:38:49
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Using Inks and Washes
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And have to admit I am a little dissapointed that there are no seated female legs in either the Hanomag or Panzerjager sets, but I am still looking forward to seeing those Shadowkesh.
Initial thoughts on the Hanomags and Panzerjagers I got my grubby little protruberances on today ........
Up to the same standard as all the rest. Mark's kits are easily on a level with the Finemoulds Star Wars range - and that's a big ask!
I am going to have to take a long, hard look at exactly how much I am going to deviate from the instructions on those Hanomags to do the best possible paint job on the interiors, and am I going to need to magnetise things like the doors and roof - for if I should get the other upgrades in future.
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Bobtheinquisitor wrote:what is going on with APAC shipping? If Macross Island were real, they'd be the last place to get any Robotechnology. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 16:04:17
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Posts with Authority
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ski2060 wrote: HisDivineShadow wrote:I can't remember I'd this has been stated as of yet, but the pics of the apc box made me wonder.
Does it have working steering post assembly?
Check out the pics that Dwartist posted. It has linked movable steering, and rotating wheels. Assuming you do painting properly you will be able to do both post assembly/painting.
Which means that you can come home and find a six year old running it along the floor going 'Vrooom! Vrooom!'
The Auld Grump
*EDIT* I have a friend that found his etched brass model railway engines in his kid's sandbox - his wife had let the child play with them....
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 16:43:15
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Daaaaaamn, those are nice aliens.
I'll have to wait on a good sale before I buy Valkirs, though, even if there are 20 guys in it, 60€ is a lot to pay for a single box of minis. And, that backlog, sigh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 16:45:01
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Repentia Mistress
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Everyone is off building their Vakir and APCs, I'm just sitting here waiting for store availability :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 17:37:57
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I enjoyed receiving Mark's update this morning. I agree with his game plan to focus on getting the Shadokesh moving, so he can start his game system.
As for the rules, themselves, I hope he goes with something smooth, simple and d6-based. A new war game is ill-served by an excess of chrome when the focus is going to be on the pretty models - easy to learn is better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 18:25:23
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Fixture of Dakka
Bathing in elitist French expats fumes
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As my friend said: I'm tired when I come home from work. I still want the social aspect of wargaming, but not the number crunching. He's a physicist, so yeah.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 18:35:21
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Mathieu Raymond wrote:As my friend said: I'm tired when I come home from work. I still want the social aspect of wargaming, but not the number crunching. He's a physicist, so yeah.
I have come up with the perfect rules system for him, but I am waiting for my Kickstarter to release it.
Preview teaser: it is a system designed exclusively for HIPS minis. Resin minis are only balanced if both armies are resin. Metal is way overpowered.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 19:18:48
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: Mathieu Raymond wrote:As my friend said: I'm tired when I come home from work. I still want the social aspect of wargaming, but not the number crunching. He's a physicist, so yeah.
I have come up with the perfect rules system for him, but I am waiting for my Kickstarter to release it.
Preview teaser: it is a system designed exclusively for HIPS minis. Resin minis are only balanced if both armies are resin. Metal is way overpowered.
That just sounds like another form of number crunching to me Mathieu
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 19:22:05
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Binabik15 wrote:Daaaaaamn, those are nice aliens.
I'll have to wait on a good sale before I buy Valkirs, though, even if there are 20 guys in it, 60€ is a lot to pay for a single box of minis. And, that backlog, sigh.
Still cheaper than an equivalent amount of SM, though (at least in the UK). And depending on what you're running on, a couple of sets and a box of Assault and Support troopers gets you most of a 40k army.
I'm more interested in the Black Widows, though, as if they are priced like Eisenkern, I may be spending a lot of cash on Dreamforge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 19:29:47
Subject: Re:DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Now that is some excellent originality their!, great race concept and incredible design!, poses look good and I look forward too seeing the final renders for their added detail  . These guys are going to be a hit! ( I hope  ).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 19:42:01
Subject: DreamForge-Games- Official News and Rumors Thread (Tank Huntresses page 143)
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Camouflaged Ariadna Scout
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RiTides: Those aren't vents, they're armor covers for the vestigial wings on their back.
ICU at this point uses D10 I believe. Look on Robey's blog at http://precinctomega.co.uk/wp/
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My Blog: ski2060.blogspot.com
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