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Great long interview with Adam about Kingdom Death, game design, kickstarter (and his talks with GW of all things

http://podcast.darker-days.org/e/darkling-44-the-king-is-dead-long-live-the-kingdom-death/

(no they're not teaming up, that bit is around 1hr 50, but it's interesting)

Shipping news

I can confirm that 2 of the 3 USA bound shipments of core games, upgrade packs and hardcover rulebooks have arrived!

Sep 27 2017 on Kingdom Death: Monster 1.5

.... I didn’t say everything will ship at the same time. I am trying to minimize the time between different regions fulfillment. But I make no promise of simultaneous global fulfillment.

Sep 27 2017 on Kingdom Death: Monster 1.5

Thanks for sharing that. I'm very excited about this!

EDIT: https://twitter.com/kingdomdeath/status/918185182531850241

"Working out details with backerkit, since we'll need everyone to finalize their address and take care of their shipping fee."

Presumably, Adam needs to make sure that Backerkit only collects shipping and addresses, and doesn't reopen the entire PM for bakcers to rejigger everything.

Seems quite reasonable assumption.

What if we want to rejigger?

We may - or may not - be given a chance to do so in Wave 2 or Wave 3 (or Wave 4?), but he certainly never guaranteed that.

There's quite a bit I'd like to add though, so I hope so.

I would hope to have an opportunity to add some sets after we see more finalized versions of the minis. A lot of the later stretch goals were just preliminary artwork and rambling bullet points, if I recall.

A LOT of people want to add things, and it's probably across all 4 waves. But I believe Adam is pretty limited in what he can do with Wave 1 (and Wave 2 to a slightly lesser extent), so he needs to take some steps around it.

If Adam allows me to add things, I will join the rest of you in doing so!

Yeah, I doubt there will be many (or any) opportunities to add the core box, but I'd bet you'll be able to add in expansions from Wave 2 on and the various extras and pinups.

Maybe!

I certainly expect he'll allow more stuff to be added in the later waves. Too many of the later revealed items were not much more than a concept sketch, some text, and a hefty price tag.

I have a spare kidney in case he does reopen the pledge manager. Currently it is still in RiTides, but we will soon see...

 DaveC wrote:
EDIT: https://twitter.com/kingdomdeath/status/918185182531850241

"Working out details with backerkit, since we'll need everyone to finalize their address and take care of their shipping fee."

In logging into Backerkit, I now see that there is a $20 charge for shipping and handling. That's new.

I guess Backerkit has to finish updating 20,000-ish accounts before they open the floodgates.

Mine shows $20 as well which is wrong it should be $40 I'd say backerkit just set it up at $20 but will fix it before release.

Interestingly it shows

Shipping total. $20
Pledge level. $20 (new to collect shipping)
Add ons $0
Order total $20

So there's a chance of add ons unless backerkit have to put that into a pledge level and have set it to $0 permenantly.

EDIT rewards and add ons are locked there's no way to add more at the moment looks like it's just part of the program.

 Alpharius wrote:
Yeah, I doubt there will be many (or any) opportunities to add the core box, but I'd bet you'll be able to add in expansions from Wave 2 on and the various extras and pinups.

Maybe!

I took the cowards route and dropped my main pledge at the time of the KS (awful timing with an expensive holiday) and still received a KS 'update your pledge' invite a couple of days ago.
It has the option to add an additional core set (at an inflated price over the original KS price)

Still can't decide whether I want to do this, and pay a lot of money for something I might not get for a couple of years, vs. not ever getting it (and obviously regretting a great deal when all the box opening shots start to appear!)

some people on the facebook group are reporting the ability to add extra core games too,

but i'd really recommend not doing anything until there's an official announcement as I suspect backerkit is still fiddling with things on the back end and there's always the change of being charged for something that's just not available

For non bakcers the 1.5 core game is up for pre order through backer kit at $300

https://kingdom-death-monster-15.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders/105692

The preorder appears to confirm the $20 shipping happy days

Shipping Fees
AT, AU, BE, BG, CA, CY, CZ, DE, DK, EE, ES, FI, FR, GB, GR, HK, HR, HU, IE, IT, LT, LU, LV, MT, NL, NZ, PL, PT, RO, SE, SI, SK, and US $20.00
Everywhere Else $50

I hadn't noticed before but it's taken an additional $2.6 million in the PM stage so far!

whot? $2.6 extra in PM? H o l y m o l y

All I could find about additional add-ons is this, back from March:

> The pledge manager will reopen before wave 1 ships to collect your wave 1 shipping fee. I have yet to decide if backers will have the opportunity to pledge for more content when we reopen it. Please do not expect it.

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1745161/kickstarter-update-54-pledge-manager-closing-march

Yeah, that's the one I remember too!

But after hearing that the PM brought in an additional 2.6M - wow!

He might let people add some more stuff in...maybe!

If I go for it, and the product ultimately isn't available, is it possible that I'll lose my money?

Although not sure why anyone would know that?! I did try contacting Adam about it but didn't hear anything back yet.

RoninXiC wrote:
whot? $2.6 extra in PM? H o l y m o l y

Yeah, that's what Backerkit shows:

Backerkit wrote:Raised in Kickstarter
$12,393,139.69 / 19,264 backers
Raised in BackerKit
$2,640,915.00 / 19,736 backers

That $2.6M isn't that much when you consider it's only $130 per backer, across 20,000 backers.

The average backer only dropped $762 grand total before shipping.

By the time the PM closes for Wave 1, Adam will have collected another $400k in shipping alone.

Still no word on shipping? Its early Oct per the last update..

No official word, but preorders are up for late backers, and shipping numbers have been added to pledges. Some people have even paid.

I think Adam Updates today or tomorrow and the floodgates open.

No email on shipping sent out yet. When it happens... BGG will know.

Also, not opening add-ons *at this time*. I think you can get additional core sets, and Wave 1 is shipment of core sets only because of packaging (most efficient to ship everyone their base game in its own box).

Sorry! I am not opening up add-ons at this time. I want to keep everything focused to the fulfillment of Wave 1.

https://twitter.com/kingdomdeath/status/918541246121041920

Japan paint job from twitter:

Store updated with some expansions on sale limited quantities in non US warehouses (US stock is sold out)

https://shop.kingdomdeath.com

Update is up, PM is open for shipping costs, which have seen some reductions from original estimates. US shipments starting today.

Well, backerkit seems totally FUBAR, it would be nice if they weren't planning on starting to ship tomorrow.

EDIT: Anyone else having weird backerkit issues (like it taking you to the new project page when you try to log in), just use find your project and then put in your email and it will send you a valid link. None of the links I received in the actual Kickstarter emails was valid.

Same ditto. I had to "Recover your BackerKit account". I double-checked they weren't asking for $300 again. Shipping to USA, CA was $20. Fine print says that money isn't collected until the creator is ready (or something like that), so don't expect to be charged right now, and shipping charges could change if there was another mistake.

Best to fill out these things NOT immediately, but I never do that because I keep thinking if I put it off, I'll forget entirely...