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I wanted to like Glock. I really, really did. Their build quality is terrific and so is their reliability, and around here ammo is plentiful. Unfortunately, and you know how the chorus goes by now... I didn't like how it felt in my hand.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Spacemanvic wrote:
Im currently in the market for a Glock (yuck) 17 or 19, Gen3. Have been fighting transitioning to a Glock for a while, but find that the 19 and 17 fit my grip pretty well. I just HATE Glocks aesthetics (its just a damned brick with a trigger). The review on Gen 4's has been tepid at best.

Carrying the 1911 all day is starting to hurt my hips (gettin old LOL).

Try something not made by a shower pipe manufacturer...

But American. Buy S&W! (or Ruger!, or Sig or Beretta depending on your definition of domestic production)

Glocks are being made in the US now too....

 Ouze wrote:
I wanted to like Glock. I really, really did. Their build quality is terrific and so is their reliability, and around here ammo is plentiful. Unfortunately, and you know how the chorus goes by now... I didn't like how it felt in my hand.

I've heard this a lot. They tried to complement the individual's hand a bit more with the gen4 frames that have removable and interchangeable rear grips. I'm honestly suspect of this modification, and how it affects the overall integrity of the frame.The ambidextrous safety and magazine release is superfluous as well, since there have been aftermarket modifications for almost 20 years for that purpose.

I used to hate glocks, because, well, they're the "glock" of pistols, but then I fired one and experimented with various ways of CCing it, and I really liked the shape and look of it. If nothing else, it has predictable aesthetics. The distinctive squared trigger guard is something I really like.

I used to own, before life and law changed all that,
But when I was actively shooting I had;
A .357 Uberti SAA with a 7 1/2" barrel and adjustable sights, in blued steel with walnut grips, which was more fun than a well oiled midget. I used it for steel plate and skittles.

A S&W 59 9mm with pachmayr grips and weaver sights.
I was using that for practical pistol competition.

A S&W 629 .44Mag, just because

I had a slot available on my Firearms Certificate available for a Calico M950, but I was posted overseas (to Cyprus where I couldn't take my guns) before I could get one.
Fun times.

I'm also not a Glock fan, I just don't like the ergos.

I like revolvers.
If I can't solve a problem with 6x.44 Magnum, it can't be solved

One of the best guns I've fired was a 1914 P08 Luger, that was the sweetest pointing pistol I've ever held.

I hear you on revolver aesthetics...

seriously, I would LOVE it if somone remade the broom handle pistol, with a nice small revolver style handle and the magazine up front with modern internals....

Found some 9mm today at a local range. Not a member though, so they'll only let me buy 2 boxes a day. Not to bad though, between that and that my dad is now getting into making his own loads, my supply should be solid now.

an I've only owned one firearm.
It was my rifle in the army. An L1A1 SLR 7.62x51mm semi-automatic rifle. At the time, we were permitted to purchase our own rifles and keep them with us, over requisitioning one from stores everytime we needed to use one (which meant stripping and cleaning and re-zeroing the sights every time).

It only ever had one use as far as I could see.

Putting holes in things and making them fall down. It did the job well.

Things like wild pigs (that tend to not really care about small stuff), but a single hardball 7.62 through the skull dropped them.

When it became illegal for me to own it in this state, I 'sold' it to a mate in a neighbouring state where it WASN'T illegal to own it. He uses it for pigshooting.

Meanwhile in Soviet Russia...

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:




Meanwhile in Soviet Russia...

Yyyyeeeaaaahhhhh.....

That crap wont fly in my range. Russians have always done razzle-dazzle Hollywood bs in their training. That's why you have simunitions.

Anybody see that discharge in the second drill where he pushes the BCM guy away and his pistol goes off into the ground? Terrific way to take yourself out of a fight.

You couldn't pay me enough to participate in a drill like those, or let them happen on any range in my AO. Try to train like that in my house and I am going to end you.

Glock 22 for duty weapon. Glock 27 for off duty concealed carry, and a AR15 pistol for home defense. More purchases planned as funds are available.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
You couldn't pay me enough to participate in a drill like those, or let them happen on any range in my AO. Try to train like that in my house and I am going to end you.

I have the feeling you wouldn't even have to bother much of the time.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:




Meanwhile in Soviet Russia...

I wonder what percentage of each draft they lose to accident-skis.

Those drills are insane. I could potentially see some value in doing something like that with sim rounds, but not with live ball ammo.

 Grey Templar wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
You couldn't pay me enough to participate in a drill like those, or let them happen on any range in my AO. Try to train like that in my house and I am going to end you.

I have the feeling you wouldn't even have to bother much of the time.

Hah. True enough. I like to think most Americans have slightly more sense then training with live ball ammo like that.

If I owned guns, I would like a XDM .40 for my sidearm, a Mossberg 500 tactical for my door buster, and a Springfield M1A Scout for my rifle. And I would have used them in a 3 gun match held locally this past weekend.

But sadly I don't own such fine weapons.

I will list just the main ones.

CZ P-01 9mm that I use for carry and it is normally on me at all times.

Sig Sauer M11 9mm that I also use for carry and when not in use stays in my gun safe upstairs.

Ruger sp-101 327 mag that I carry in the summer and sits in the gun safe until then.

Smith and Wesson J Frame 38 special that I use as a bug gun and is always near me.

Russian Ak-47 that stays locked up but can get to it easily if I need it.

For collection reasons I just bought a Mauser P-08 Luger built in 1938! Its a police rebuild so not really a 1938 but it has a brand new barrel and functions flawlessly, really fun to shoot.

I work as an armed guard so I have lots of firearms experience and train with the local law enforment and ex-military instructors as much as possible. I also used to shoot in IDPA and IPSC so I got quite the collection from the old competitive days.

 SickSix wrote:
If I owned guns, I would like a XDM .40 for my sidearm, a Mossberg 500 tactical for my door buster, and a Springfield M1A Scout for my rifle. And I would have used them in a 3 gun match held locally this past weekend.

But sadly I don't own such fine weapons.

In this mythical three gun competition you didn't attend, what were the ranges on the carbine shots?

So, asked a Wal-Mart employee on when they would be getting more .22 and 9mm. He said that he receives in shipment on a random day during the week at 7am, and they'll be sold out by 10/11am. I've heard similar stories about other ammo distributors.

Great.

9mm is obtainable without too much difficulty online(Cabelas etc). .22 is a problem.

I was fortunate enough to be at a Bass Pro when they had 2500 round boxes of .22 in.

I bought three.

22 has remained quite hard to find around here, still.

Now is it just .22 that is hard to find? Or is it hard to find the components as well if you were going to make your own?

 Grey Templar wrote:
Now is it just .22 that is hard to find? Or is it hard to find the components as well if you were going to make your own?

From what I understand some powders are a bit difficult to find but components can be found with a little patience. I know primers were difficult to find for a while, but not heard grousing about that lately.

Note, you would not be able to find components to make .22LR. I've never seen anyone make primed rimless brass for sale for reloaders (I have this image of timing of wiener dogs manning eentsy weensy loading benches to load tiny .22 rounds)

In Ohio 9mm has been pretty easy to find most places, but I've barely seen any .380, and almost no .22 for months.

I have a feeling that I should start my own .22 ammo factory. Could be profitable.

Sadly, I live in California

I have a Lee-Enfield .303 that saw action in WWI and was somewhere along the way modified slightly for use as a hunting rifle and a CZ-36 my grandfather brought back after fighting in Germany alongside his 6 brothers in Patton's army. As the story goes, he confiscated a Luger off of a captured German soldier and somehow lost it or had it taken and chose the CZ-36 from a cache of confiscated weapons to replace it.

.22 lr is super rare up here too,

we are lucky enough to get chinese 223, 45 and 9mm in, but the 223 and 45 has dried up now as the shippers no longer ship,

powder seems to be like hens teeth up here... ive been waiting 8 months to get some more bullseye powder :(

I have actually looked into starting a 22lr plant...anyone want to go in halfsies for start up funds?

too bad kickstarter wont let me kickstart it :(

You cant reload 22LR as it is a rimfire cartridge. As for costs, it is too expensive to purchase the specialized equipment to load 22LR. The primer compound itself is stable when wet, but explosive when dry.

Here's a good article as to why reloading 22LR isnt gonna happen:

http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/Impossible-22-rimfire

 Frazzled wrote:

 SickSix wrote:
If I owned guns, I would like a XDM .40 for my sidearm, a Mossberg 500 tactical for my door buster, and a Springfield M1A Scout for my rifle. And I would have used them in a 3 gun match held locally this past weekend.

But sadly I don't own such fine weapons.

In this mythical three gun competition you didn't attend, what were the ranges on the carbine shots?

One stage would have had small steel plates at 100 yards and 200 yards. All other stages would have been well within 50 yards.

I think I would have had fun and learned a lot but not have done very well.