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Ok, now that truly is picky

I highly recommend the FS2000. Maybe not as your end of the world gun, but as a fun range toy, home defense? Heck yes.

The FS2000 is a very neat looking gun.

 Ouze wrote:
The FS2000 is a very neat looking gun.

It is. And I really like the fact that the spent cases are ejected forwards

 Ouze wrote:
Iowa has a bill pending that would allow suppressors - right now it doesn't allow any NFA items. I'm pretty stoked on building some sort of subsonic rifle.

neat! Minnesota has a bill pending for them. But I don't expect it to go anywhere. They may have enough votes to get it passed, but not enough to get past the veto.

Colorado has a bipartisan bill going forward to kill our mag ban. I'm excited. Not that I can't get all the mags I want in any capacity I want them, and every CLEO in the state is "selectively enforcing" the new law (mainly saying their deputies have better gak to do)

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Colorado has a bipartisan bill going forward to kill our mag ban. I'm excited. Not that I can't get all the mags I want in any capacity I want them, and every CLEO in the state is "selectively enforcing" the new law (mainly saying their deputies have better gak to do)

Funny how they whined about Magpul leaving the state, but were too proud to just kill the bill. Now they have a worthless bill that nobody enforces, a hole in the state economy where Magpul used to be.

Talking about the FS2000 and Magpul - I wish Magpul would make the P90 Monolith foregrip for the FS2000.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Colorado has a bipartisan bill going forward to kill our mag ban. I'm excited. Not that I can't get all the mags I want in any capacity I want them, and every CLEO in the state is "selectively enforcing" the new law (mainly saying their deputies have better gak to do)

Funny how they whined about Magpul leaving the state, but were too proud to just kill the bill. Now they have a worthless bill that nobody enforces, a hole in the state economy where Magpul used to be.

Yeah, it's rather awkward, but at least they're making good on the error. I guess they're always a chance Magpul may return some of their operations in some part.

 Vaktathi wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Colorado has a bipartisan bill going forward to kill our mag ban. I'm excited. Not that I can't get all the mags I want in any capacity I want them, and every CLEO in the state is "selectively enforcing" the new law (mainly saying their deputies have better gak to do)

Funny how they whined about Magpul leaving the state, but were too proud to just kill the bill. Now they have a worthless bill that nobody enforces, a hole in the state economy where Magpul used to be.

Yeah, it's rather awkward, but at least they're making good on the error. I guess they're always a chance Magpul may return some of their operations in some part.

Doubt it. Wouldn't be worth the cost.

Cool Colorado might be fixing their gak, though. Been looking at osteopathic schools, and Rocky Vista seems pretty, so definitely cool.

Not like 30 round mags are available. Everywhere. Probably. And of course all the repair kits you might need for all those broken P-mags you have lying around.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Not like 30 round mags are available. Everywhere. Probably. And of course all the repair kits you might need for all those broken P-mags you have lying around.

Which reminds me, I need to order 12 Magpul followers for some USGI mags I have....

 Stonebeard wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Colorado has a bipartisan bill going forward to kill our mag ban. I'm excited. Not that I can't get all the mags I want in any capacity I want them, and every CLEO in the state is "selectively enforcing" the new law (mainly saying their deputies have better gak to do)

Funny how they whined about Magpul leaving the state, but were too proud to just kill the bill. Now they have a worthless bill that nobody enforces, a hole in the state economy where Magpul used to be.

Yeah, it's rather awkward, but at least they're making good on the error. I guess they're always a chance Magpul may return some of their operations in some part.

Doubt it. Wouldn't be worth the cost.

Cool Colorado might be fixing their gak, though. Been looking at osteopathic schools, and Rocky Vista seems pretty, so definitely cool.

You're probably correct in that they're likely gone for good, it'll be interesting to see what happens in the future.

Meanwhile, having moved out of California, as much as I liked everything else there, it was quite fun to take off those mag-locks and the capacity limiters out of the magazines

AK47 Water Pistol.
Battery Powered Two Shots Per Second.
Range 6m
Clip lasts around 30 seconds on full-auto.
Use it to chase the neighbours cats out of the cat flap; but not when its freezing outside My cats are chickens.

Cry_of_the_Wind wrote:
AK47 Water Pistol.
Battery Powered Two Shots Per Second.
Range 6m
Clip lasts around 30 seconds on full-auto.
Use it to chase the neighbours cats out of the cat flap; but not when its freezing outside My cats are chickens.

Pics!!

Edit - btw do any of you use sling shots?

If only the weather in California wasn't so great...

That picture perfectly illustrates the bizarre mindset of the ATF, and why they have no business telling people what they can or can't have.

Is that HK in the glove box on fire. As in not on safe

yellowfever wrote:
Is that HK in the glove box on fire. As in not on safe

Yup. Hammer is also down though, perhaps on an empty chamber?

 Alex C wrote:

yellowfever wrote:
Is that HK in the glove box on fire. As in not on safe

Yup. Hammer is also down though, perhaps on an empty chamber?

I'm not 100% familiar with the H&K's manual of arms, (I've handled one but never shot one), but I believe that model H&K has a decocker, so I think you could use the decocker to drop the hammer, and then disengage the safety.

 Hordini wrote:

 Alex C wrote:

yellowfever wrote:
Is that HK in the glove box on fire. As in not on safe

Yup. Hammer is also down though, perhaps on an empty chamber?

I'm not 100% familiar with the H&K's manual of arms, (I've handled one but never shot one), but I believe that model H&K has a decocker, so I think you could use the decocker to drop the hammer, and then disengage the safety.

Yes you can. Would be a bad idea in a glovebox though imho, unless it sits in that holster with the trigger covered.

But then I also think it's a bad idea to leave guns in vehicles unattended. Never understood the "truck gun" concept. To each their own.

 DarkLink wrote:

Again, this thread has remained open for so long because we have managed to keep it a "here is this cool gun I own" and "any tips on that gun" and "any thoughts on this ammo vs that ammo" kind of thread.

Keep the politics out.
Keep the "stupid ATF" out.
Keep the "liberals/conservatives" talk out.

This is NOT a political thread, which is why it has been civil with people posting and talking about guns in a friendly and relaxed way despite being on opposite sites during any gun argument involving politics.

No, I am not a MOD. No, I have no actual say about any of this. I'm just trying to make sure we keep on following the self-imposed rules that have kept a gun thread open in the OT for 2+ years now.

Was there a statement that liberals were bad because they don't like guns, or a statement that conservative were bad because they're gun nuts? It's a joke, something that most of the people in this thread will likely find funny because of the absurdity of some gun laws, independent of any political commentary of said firearms. If a mod finds it inappropriate, which they only would be if someone were to take insult to the post and start a big argument, they can do so themselves.

 DarkLink wrote:
It's a joke, something that most of the people in this thread will likely find funny because of the absurdity of some gun laws, independent of any political commentary of said firearms.

Keep it about guns and their uses, because this is what the thread is about. It is not about the absurdity of some gun laws. It is not about what some people find funny about the absurdity of some gun laws. It is not the thread for political commentary of said gun laws.

Not because the MOD's said so. But because the people who have managed to keep this thread open for over 2 years now said so. But we can start pushing the triangle to get MOD's involved 2 years after the creation even though everybodyo else has been able to follow the rules we have created for ourselves.

That's nice. You're the one trying to argue about it. I never felt any need to turn it political. Preaching angriy doesn't help keep things civil. Chill out, dude.

Posting "stupid ATF" links to make fun of "absurd gun laws" = turning it political.

Which will lead to more political posts, which will lead to "absurd gun owners" posts, which will lead "absurd liberals vs absurd conservatives posts", which will lead to a locked thread instead of a nice thread where gun owners regardless of political leanings and opinions about gun laws have been able to talk shop.

The only person that seems to care is you. Ever heard of the striesand effect? Like I said, it was a joke, and at least one other person found it funny, and so far only you have taken (extreme) offence to it. It's not worth arguing over. I'm not going to waste time arguing with you on something as silly as this. If you're actually serious about avoiding a flame war, then stop trying to start one.

Here, have a random, hopefully non offensive, politically correct, non serious, non politicized, etc funny picture.

So I think as soon as I have some spare cash I'm going to grab a Bersa Thunder in .380 for a "formal" gun and a light carry when I need one. It's a PPK clone and has been honed to a fine edge from what I understand from a couple owners.

 Alex C wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 Alex C wrote:

yellowfever wrote:
Is that HK in the glove box on fire. As in not on safe

Yup. Hammer is also down though, perhaps on an empty chamber?

I'm not 100% familiar with the H&K's manual of arms, (I've handled one but never shot one), but I believe that model H&K has a decocker, so I think you could use the decocker to drop the hammer, and then disengage the safety.

Yes you can. Would be a bad idea in a glovebox though imho, unless it sits in that holster with the trigger covered.

But then I also think it's a bad idea to leave guns in vehicles unattended. Never understood the "truck gun" concept. To each their own.

It is chambered, de cocked and NOT on safe. It sits in its holster in the glove box.

Modern guns have drop safeties, it cannot discharge without pulling the trigger. This is Condition 2.

It that condition it is no more dangerous than a chambered Glock.

Edit - btw lots of pistols are meant to be carried chambered and de cocked without safety on. In fact many have de dockers with NO SAFETIES like the Sig P226, Walter P99, some versions of the CZ-P07, the 'G' versions of Beretta 92 / 96, etc.

As for a truck gun. I have enough guns that I wouldn't miss it if I lost it. And where I live in backwoods Kentucky, there are plenty places to get bigger guns if someone wanted to steal one. Besides, everyone already has guns out here.

 KiloFiX wrote:

Why wouldn't I keep a truck gun? I have enough guns that I wouldn't miss it. And where I live in backwoods Kentucky, there are plenty places to get bigger guns if someone wanted to steal one. Besides, everyone already has guns out here.

My personal thought is that I consider an unsecured gun in a vehicle is just like an unsecured gun at my house or my front porch. Which I know people are also okay with, especially if they don't have any kids around the house to worry about.

Personally I keep my guns either physically on my person, or locked up (gun safe, lockbox attached to the floor of the vehicle, quick-combination box on the bed stand).

But different strokes for different folks as they say, that's just how I do it.