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 cuda1179 wrote:
However, we have found non-explosive training rounds for sale. Bean bag rounds could also be fun. What I like the most is some "nest of bees" packs we found...

I think you can also shoot flares, right?

Just checked, yeah - but $9 a round. Ouch.

Can't you also launch chalk marking rounds?

If it weren't illegal (and it really shouldn't be) I'd want to take an old-casing and reload it using a racket ball. imagine how much bounce you'd get!!!!. Also, it would make a great non-lethal round.

 cuda1179 wrote:
If it weren't illegal (and it really shouldn't be) I'd want to take an old-casing and reload it using a racket ball. imagine how much bounce you'd get!!!!. Also, it would make a great non-lethal round.

There is a lot of ridiculous stuff that's regulated under the NFA or outlawed by State laws/regulations. The SBR and pistol attachment regs are a couple of examples.

 oldravenman3025 wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
If it weren't illegal (and it really shouldn't be) I'd want to take an old-casing and reload it using a racket ball. imagine how much bounce you'd get!!!!. Also, it would make a great non-lethal round.

There is a lot of ridiculous stuff that's regulated under the NFA or outlawed by State laws/regulations. The SBR and pistol attachment regs are a couple of examples.

I always thought it was ridiculous that you can own a pistol AR15, but don't dare turn a rifle AR into a pistol AR. That would be a felony with a 10 year prison sentence. Sure, you can own a handgun that shoots .410 shotshells, but don't trim your .410 shotgun barrel down to 17.9999 inches long, that's a felony. A ballistics knife propelled by gunpowder is okay, but not one propelled by a spring or compressed air.

 cuda1179 wrote:

Sometimes when weapons get de-milled they don't quite do the job they are supposed to (there's always that one lazy, incompetent guy no matter where you work).

Yeah, a friend of mine imported a 7.5cm KWK 40 that was supposed to be demillled. It wasn't. Much to his glee as he happily paid all the fees he needed to to keep that sucker.

Just picked up an FN - Five Seven pistol today. Yet to shoot it and I am very excited. Any of you own one and want to give me some tips about maintianing it or have any cool stories to tell about it?

Looking at getting a new deer rifle. Debating on the caliber. I own a .308 already, and really like the round. Easy to come by, and has pretty universal usage.

Talking with my father, he was really pushing the idea I get another caliber, just to have some variety. So I'm not sure what I want to go with. 30-06, a bigger round? Or maybe smaller, like .270

What do you guys prefer for medium game hunting?

 djones520 wrote:
Looking at getting a new deer rifle. Debating on the caliber. I own a .308 already, and really like the round. Easy to come by, and has pretty universal usage.

Talking with my father, he was really pushing the idea I get another caliber, just to have some variety. So I'm not sure what I want to go with. 30-06, a bigger round? Or maybe smaller, like .270

What do you guys prefer for medium game hunting?

.308

 djones520 wrote:
Looking at getting a new deer rifle. Debating on the caliber. I own a .308 already, and really like the round. Easy to come by, and has pretty universal usage.

Talking with my father, he was really pushing the idea I get another caliber, just to have some variety. So I'm not sure what I want to go with. 30-06, a bigger round? Or maybe smaller, like .270

What do you guys prefer for medium game hunting?

Hunting deer with a rifle is illegal in my state unfortunately. We are limited to shotguns, bows, and spears (yeah, seriously). Weird thing is that we are allowed to shoot other animals with whatever rifle we want. Have you considered 7.62x54R? If you can find a decent Mosin Nagant it will only set you back $200 or so. Modifying a Mosin Nagant is possibly one of the funnest things I have eve done. Educational, entertaining, and functional. With DuraCoat, a muzzle break, Archangel stock, Rock Solid scope mount, 8-24 power scope, and a Timney trigger, this thing is deadly accurate out to 700 yards and you can use cheap ammo in it. Ammo is so cheap you can buy it by the Box at WalMart, 20 round for $10.


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 BaronIveagh wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:

Sometimes when weapons get de-milled they don't quite do the job they are supposed to (there's always that one lazy, incompetent guy no matter where you work).

Yeah, a friend of mine imported a 7.5cm KWK 40 that was supposed to be demillled. It wasn't. Much to his glee as he happily paid all the fees he needed to to keep that sucker.

There was an article in Popular Mechanics back in the late 1990's about improperly de-milled weapons. A man with a logging company purchased the de-milled parts of 6 Cobra helicopters, in the hopes of using the pieces to make 2 or 3 functional logging helicopters on the cheap. When they were delivered he found out he had been given 6 fully-functional attack helicopters, including functional chain guns. The government unsuccessfully sued him for their return. He currently keeps one Cobra with the weapon intact and uses it to shoot coyotes.

 Xenomancers wrote:
Just picked up an FN - Five Seven pistol today. Yet to shoot it and I am very excited. Any of you own one and want to give me some tips about maintianing it or have any cool stories to tell about it?

They're very cool, just sad you can't get the originally intended ammo for it

 djones520 wrote:
Looking at getting a new deer rifle. Debating on the caliber. I own a .308 already, and really like the round. Easy to come by, and has pretty universal usage.

Talking with my father, he was really pushing the idea I get another caliber, just to have some variety. So I'm not sure what I want to go with. 30-06, a bigger round? Or maybe smaller, like .270

What do you guys prefer for medium game hunting?

If you're looking at a more long-range option, 6.5 Creedmore may be something to look into. 30-06 will pretty much duplicate .308 performance with a bit more kick if you're not looking to stray too far however.

Also, as Cuda noted, a Mosin wouldn't be the worst option out there

 cuda1179 wrote:
Hunting deer with a rifle is illegal in my state unfortunately.

You could legally run an AR pistol with a SIG brace chambered in .50 Beowulf. Iowa only has a minimum barrel length, and that caliber is approved as long as the pistol doesn't have a shoulder stock. You'd also need a smaller capacity magazine, I've had enough of reading this stupid manual so I'll just assume 5 or less.

 djones520 wrote:
Looking at getting a new deer rifle. Debating on the caliber. I own a .308 already, and really like the round. Easy to come by, and has pretty universal usage.

Talking with my father, he was really pushing the idea I get another caliber, just to have some variety. So I'm not sure what I want to go with. 30-06, a bigger round? Or maybe smaller, like .270

What do you guys prefer for medium game hunting?

Do you handload? My favorite deer gun is chambered in .257 Roberts. VERY flat shooting, soft recoil, and lightweight. A typical barrel is pushing a 100 gr bullet at over 3k FPS.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 djones520 wrote:
Looking at getting a new deer rifle. Debating on the caliber. I own a .308 already, and really like the round. Easy to come by, and has pretty universal usage.

Talking with my father, he was really pushing the idea I get another caliber, just to have some variety. So I'm not sure what I want to go with. 30-06, a bigger round? Or maybe smaller, like .270

What do you guys prefer for medium game hunting?

Do you handload? My favorite deer gun is chambered in .257 Roberts. VERY flat shooting, soft recoil, and lightweight. A typical barrel is pushing a 100 gr bullet at over 3k FPS.

My father does. I just don't have the time/money to invest in it, nor do I shoot often enough to warrant it. Can't say I've heard of that caliber before. How hard is it to come by off the shelf?

Some sites like Midway have it on offer starting at $1.44 a round

I am looking at what I would like to add to my collection. I all ready have a pretty substantial inventory of weapons and ammo. I'd like to keep the range of weapons limited to what ammo I all ready have in stock. The sole exception would be if I were to find a decent .357 revolver, as that is one caliber of round I am interested in.

So, with that in mind, what would you guys recommend for a guy looking for (in no particular order):

1. A .357 revolver and/or rifle. I like the idea of a Chiappa Rhino, but the cost is a little high. I also like a Ruger 77 rifle.

2. Something that shoots 7.62x39mm. I all ready have a very reliable and accurate Ruger Mini thirty. While an AK is the obvious choice I really am not that into them. A pistol AK would be fun...but have little value other than as a fun gun.

3. .410 semi-auto shotgun.

4. Anything chambered in 7.62x54R. I all ready own a pimped-out Mosin Nagant. Although having another is tempting, I'd like to find something else too.

 cuda1179 wrote:
I am looking at what I would like to add to my collection. I all ready have a pretty substantial inventory of weapons and ammo. I'd like to keep the range of weapons limited to what ammo I all ready have in stock. The sole exception would be if I were to find a decent .357 revolver, as that is one caliber of round I am interested in.

So, with that in mind, what would you guys recommend for a guy looking for (in no particular order):

1. A .357 revolver and/or rifle. I like the idea of a Chiappa Rhino, but the cost is a little high. I also like a Ruger 77 rifle.

2. Something that shoots 7.62x39mm. I all ready have a very reliable and accurate Ruger Mini thirty. While an AK is the obvious choice I really am not that into them. A pistol AK would be fun...but have little value other than as a fun gun.

3. .410 semi-auto shotgun.

4. Anything chambered in 7.62x54R. I all ready own a pimped-out Mosin Nagant. Although having another is tempting, I'd like to find something else too.

for #1, you could look at a Marlin 1894, I really like mine.

For #2, by your criteria I'd have said a mini30...but you already have one. You could try a PTR 32 or an SKS, though I'd strongly recommend an AK, either an Arsenal or a DDI

For #3 an SGL 41 would be my choice (.410 AK)

For #4 this gets more difficult as there's a lack of solid 7.62x54R guns that are either A: not mosins, B: available, or C: not garbage US rebuilds. About the only good choice I can think of would be a VEPR AK pattern chambered in 7.62x54R.

 Xenomancers wrote:
Just picked up an FN - Five Seven pistol today. Yet to shoot it and I am very excited. Any of you own one and want to give me some tips about maintianing it or have any cool stories to tell about it?

No experience with it outside of holding one once and dreaming of how awesome I'd be if only I owned one........ So do tell his it is, they are apparently very accurate

 djones520 wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:

 djones520 wrote:
Looking at getting a new deer rifle. Debating on the caliber. I own a .308 already, and really like the round. Easy to come by, and has pretty universal usage.

Talking with my father, he was really pushing the idea I get another caliber, just to have some variety. So I'm not sure what I want to go with. 30-06, a bigger round? Or maybe smaller, like .270

What do you guys prefer for medium game hunting?

Do you handload? My favorite deer gun is chambered in .257 Roberts. VERY flat shooting, soft recoil, and lightweight. A typical barrel is pushing a 100 gr bullet at over 3k FPS.

My father does. I just don't have the time/money to invest in it, nor do I shoot often enough to warrant it. Can't say I've heard of that caliber before. How hard is it to come by off the shelf?

Off the shelf? Dodgy, but you can find ammo on the internet no problem. If you're accustomed to paying shotgun slug prices to shoot deer, it's about the same. If you're willing to set aside some bonding time with dad, handloads are way cheaper.

Okay, so I heard this story a while back. A guy in a rather rural area liked to shoot small game using his single-shot .17HMR rifle. He liked the gun, but found out finding ammo for it in his area was significantly harder than finding .22LR.

Being pretty far from a "real" gun store he found an interesting solution. He got a box of pellets meant for a pellet gun (same diameter as the .17HMR bullet) and a box of nail gun charges.

He'd basically breach load the pellet into the barrel, then load a nail gun charge. Apparently this works quite well, however I'm willing to bet this is dangerous as all heck and I DO NOT recommend it.

I've seen people test that on YouTube. Taofledermause (I think that is how it's spelled) did some videos on that. Those seemed to move like no tomorrow too

Just in case anyone has $4.5 million to burn

http://robbreport.com/sports-leisure/behold-45-million-one-kind-meteorite-handguns-video-exclusive-photos

That is pretty damned cool. If I had 4.5 million I would probably get that.

That's neat. I really dig the grips though, those are cool looking

Huh. Space Gun. There's a couple Space swords out there, but I think that's the first Space Gun I've seen.

Or would it be better to call it Starmetal?

I know it's a little off topic but has anyone ordered bulk ammo. I want to try it but I don't know which sites can be trusted.

yellowfever wrote:
I know it's a little off topic but has anyone ordered bulk ammo. I want to try it but I don't know which sites can be trusted.

I order 1,000 round cases all the time, if that counts as "bulk". I've gotten from Natchez, Midway, Palmetto State Armory*, Freedom Munitions... never really had a problem with any of them.

*PSA has a somewhat bad reputation review-wise. I haven't have a problem but YMMV. I think I've liked Freedom Munitions the most, it's free shipping for new customers I think and otherwise $7 flat over $100 or something like that.

You've never had a problem with the ammo either

yellowfever wrote:
I know it's a little off topic but has anyone ordered bulk ammo. I want to try it but I don't know which sites can be trusted.

I've been using Lucky Gunner for quite a while. I don't think they're the cheapest, but I'm too lazy to switch and I haven't had any issues with them.


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yellowfever wrote:
You've never had a problem with the ammo either

Are you talking about commercial reloads?

yellowfever wrote:
You've never had a problem with the ammo either

Do you mean brand, or what? I can't recommend Tulammo 9mm or Thunderbolt 22LR but other than that not sure what you mean.