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I've been contemplating another AR, building it around a FossTech Echo trigger if they turn out to be reliable and the ATF doesnt change its mind about the functionality being legal.
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights! The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts.
Thanks guys! I'm looking forward to my shift ending this week so I can take it to the range.
NuggzTheNinja wrote:Did you get one of Anderson's RF85 treated uppers? Curious if the no lube thing is accurate.
No, I bought the non-treated one.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
Ouze wrote: Very nice. I especially like the brake.
Thanks!
It's actually not the one I had originally wanted, but it was the best priced one I could find in stock.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-px27tzAtVwZpZ4ljopV2w "ashtrays and teacups do not count as cover"
"jack of all trades, master of none; certainly better than a master of one"
The Ordo Reductor - the guy's who make wonderful things like the Landraider Achillies, but can't use them in battle..
cuda1179 wrote:Where are you located? If you're ever in the states look me up. I'll let you blow stuff up in American-hillybilly fashion until you want to immigrate.
Northern Ireland. And I'd love to take you up on that offer!
yellowfever wrote:I've wondered how many gun owners you guys would have if your gun laws were to be relaxed. How many of you guys would conceal carry. I asked this question in another thread and two posters responded. Both said that basically guns aren't a popular thing. But both of those posters are pretty anti gun so I'm thinking they were a little biased
I would have one. Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
Wait, you're in Northern Ireland and you don't shoot guns? Just remember, when you're in the States IRA stands for Individual Retirement Account, LOL.
Dreadclaw69 wrote: With the 300AAC will you be loading your own, or just buying commercially?
Commercial for now, but I'm really considering getting into reloading. I've done some research and it's possible to get decent, bare minimum equipment for less than $250 (single stage press kit, tumbler, die kit, bullet puller, other small tools). I have a grocery bag full of 5.56 brass that I could cut down, so I would only need primers, projectiles, and powder. It's definitely on the to do list, I think.
I'm sure my wife would be thrilled if I brought home a gakload of reloading equipment...
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d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
Dreadclaw69 wrote: With the 300AAC will you be loading your own, or just buying commercially?
Commercial for now, but I'm really considering getting into reloading. I've done some research and it's possible to get decent, bare minimum equipment for less than $250 (single stage press kit, tumbler, die kit, bullet puller, other small tools). I have a grocery bag full of 5.56 brass that I could cut down, so I would only need primers, projectiles, and powder. It's definitely on the to do list, I think.
I'm sure my wife would be thrilled if I brought home a gakload of reloading equipment...
Buy her flowers and chocolates, keep the stuff in the car and sneak it in while she sleeps
I have a question for the more knowledgable members of the forum.
I'm working towards a degree in Environmental Sciences, and in order to buff up my CV I'm considering working towards a firearms license. This is a pretty serious undertaking in Australia, and given that, what would be a good calibre?
It'd have to be light enough to carry, but big enough to have a decent range of targets.
This leads me to conclude that .223 or .243 would probably be something I'm looking towards. .22 is too small, and .303 is too heavy to be carrying around, with ammo too expensive to shoot small game.
This is all pretty theoretical ATM, but I'd like to be able to walk into a range with some first hand knowledge behind me, rather then stuff I've cobbled together from sporting reviews.
Any help you can give is great.
Cheers!
My $0.02, which since 1992 has rounded to nothing. Take with salt.
Elysian Drop Troops, Dark Angels, 30K
Mercenaries, Retribution
Ten Thunders, Neverborn
CptJake wrote: When you say 'small game', what do you mean? What distances do you intend to shoot?
Is that going to be the primary purpose for the gun?
Primary purpose for the gun is carry round rifle.
Rabbit-Goat. We get Boar/Horses/Camels, but that's too big as I understand it, and the goat would be stretching it.
As to distances, about 200m max. Gov. restrictions usually state no further, to try and ensure clean kill.
I really have very little knowledge. I'd just like to be able to walk into the range with an idea of where to start.
My $0.02, which since 1992 has rounded to nothing. Take with salt.
Elysian Drop Troops, Dark Angels, 30K
Mercenaries, Retribution
Ten Thunders, Neverborn
A .223/5.56 is a bit of overkill for the rabbits, but will do the trick, and it is going to be fine for the goats and could work on boar if you are getting good shots*. 200m is an easy shot with iron sights with a bit of practice (maybe not for a rabbit, especially if it is running). I would not want to shoot a horse or camel with a .223, I would very much worry about a clean kill. Of course, if I started capping our horses my wife would likely cap me...
I use a .22lr for rabbits and squirrels and the occasional snake.
*I have a buddy that uses a suppressor equipped AR type rifle to cull wild boar to keep them out of his crops. The suppressor allows him to get several before they realize what is up and un-ass the AO.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
Cheers. It's nice to have some idea of what you're doing, rather then standing round like a looney. This is fairly daunting, all things told.
CptJake wrote: Of course, if I started capping our horses my wife would likely cap me...
Vets use (or at least used to) a .22 for putting down horses around here, back before things got more civilised. Of course, they'd be standing 5 feet away. All the University horse skulls have nice little holes in the forehead, and a few still rattle with the bullet.
Doubt I'd be encountering boar/horse/camel, they usually have targeted shoots. Suppressor is no go, that much I know, and to get an AR you have to be a fully qualified, licensed contractor. There's like a handful in the country, and they're employed strictly by the Gov. for aerial culls.
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My $0.02, which since 1992 has rounded to nothing. Take with salt.
Elysian Drop Troops, Dark Angels, 30K
Mercenaries, Retribution
Ten Thunders, Neverborn
Dreadclaw69 wrote: With the 300AAC will you be loading your own, or just buying commercially?
Commercial for now, but I'm really considering getting into reloading. I've done some research and it's possible to get decent, bare minimum equipment for less than $250 (single stage press kit, tumbler, die kit, bullet puller, other small tools). I have a grocery bag full of 5.56 brass that I could cut down, so I would only need primers, projectiles, and powder. It's definitely on the to do list, I think.
I'm sure my wife would be thrilled if I brought home a gakload of reloading equipment...
Buy her flowers and chocolates, keep the stuff in the car and sneak it in while she sleeps
Meh, she doesn't like chocolate. Besides, we've always been open about what we spend and when, since we have joint everything.
Also, notice that I didn't say I wouldn't be buying a gakload of reloading equipment, just that she wouldn't be happy about it (when I do).
Yeah, I've already marked and segregated my mags to avoid mixing ammunition.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
All our stuff in joint too, and neither of us are spendy which helps. Aside from the mortgage the pets are our biggest expense. Well, that and hobby supplies now that I have taken up the brush again (pictures pending after basing materials are acquired).
We're heading to Michigan to do so shooting this weekend. I'm teaching her Mom to shoot, and this range has a variety of simulations too
I ended up going with the Vortex SPARC AR for an optic on the new rifle. I got it in the mail today and put it on the rifle and even though I have fired it yet, I like the sight picture. This is my first red dot (my other AR has an EOTech 512 on it) so I'm really looking forward to taking it to the range this weekend.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
Not sure if you qualify, but Vortex has a PHENOMENAL LEO/DoD discount (even veterans qualify). I'm not allowed to state the % but it is significant.
Additionally, if you are in the program and you refer someone else and they order and list you as their reference you get a % of their purchase amount applied to your account as store credit.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
Without wanting to get into politics, here's a rather interesting article from the NY Times (from CJ Chivers who wrote a great book on the AK) about small arms proliferation with illustrations by a DC Batman comic book artist
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights! The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts.
It's got some political elements in it that I find a bit silly or disagree with, but I thought stuff like the maps, cold war history, and Batman style illustrations were worth a look at from a guy who has some very real journalistic, military, and academic chops.
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights! The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts.
CptJake wrote: Not sure if you qualify, but Vortex has a PHENOMENAL LEO/DoD discount (even veterans qualify). I'm not allowed to state the % but it is significant.
Additionally, if you are in the program and you refer someone else and they order and list you as their reference you get a % of their purchase amount applied to your account as store credit.
Unfortunately, that wouldn't apply to me as I have no background in law enforcement or the military, but thanks for the heads up (I have family in law enforcement that I'll pass it along to).
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d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
So...Ian and Karl at InRange are currently doing a series on home building CETME L rifles from parts kits, and this has me intrigued. Parts kits seem to run $225-280, barrels about $100, not sure about the rest of the stuff but apparently aside from a receiver it looks like you just need a bending jig, hand tools, and a small welder.
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights! The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts.
I am excited to be starting yet another ar upper build. I sold one of my pistols and my old mustang rims so I can afford the parts I want . I currently have my super expensive 6.8 SPC that I finish early last year as a precision rifle, so I will be using its lower to build another precision rifle but this time in 556.
My current rifle has a PSA 6.8 SPC II 18" upper that I have added a 15" BCM KMR rail, Silencerco ASR muzzle break, #4 BCM charging handle and an Aim surplus 6.8 bolt to it. I have a Leupold VXR Patrol 3-9x40 scope, a Primary arms red dot mount at 40 degrees next to the scope and a set of Magpui flip ups. My lower is a M&P with a Magpul UBR stock, trigger guard, pistol grip and bad lever, a Larue Tactical trigger, and a basic BCM parts kit.
For my new upper I have a spare R-Guns stripped upper I will be using for this. I am going to buy a BCM 18" rifle gas length 410 stainless steel Ionbond black barrel (just as expensive as the description ), Spikes gas tude, BCM low pro gas block, 15" BCM KMR Alpha, #4 BCM charging handle, either a Spikes NiB bolt or an Aimsurplus NiB bolt (I would prefer an Aim Black Nitrite but they are out of stock), a Silencerco ASR muzzle break, and I'll be topping it off with a Leupold VXR Patrol 1.25-4x20 scope and a set of troy 40 degree off set flip up sights. Then I will get the upper, lower and KMR Cerakoted Magpul Stealth grey. This is going to be a fun project and am looking forward to seeing how it holds up to my 6.8 SPC.
As you can tell by a lot of the listed parts I tend to use Bravo Company as much as possible. I have been making ARs with their parts for quite awhile now and have never been upset with the quality and performance of their parts, and whole rifles for that matter.
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"Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts."
I had to close that video almost immediately, lest I spent $300 on a bag of junk soon to be a box of junk in my basement. Those kinds of videos are dangerous to my wallet.
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lord_blackfang wrote: Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote: The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
I finally got to fire an AK for the first time yesterday. I have to say that I enjoyed it. A lot. Recoil was less than I was expecting. We found a range almost two hours from us and it also has programs for the targets so you can simulate being charged (someone coming at you from 60 foot away does not give you a lot of time to react. Even less if you have to reload mid encounter). There were also moving short exposure targets, and random good guy/bad guy encounters.
It was definitely a worthwhile trip.
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Dreadclaw69 wrote: I finally got to fire an AK for the first time yesterday. I have to say that I enjoyed it. A lot. Recoil was less than I was expecting. We found a range almost two hours from us and it also has programs for the targets so you can simulate being charged (someone coming at you from 60 foot away does not give you a lot of time to react. Even less if you have to reload mid encounter). There were also moving short exposure targets, and random good guy/bad guy encounters.
It was definitely a worthwhile trip.
Auto or semi?
In related news, I took the new AR to the range today. It was awesome and I'm so glad I built that thing. The SPARC AR red dot was pretty nice, but it pales in comparison to my EOTech... I just can't justify spending the money for another one though.
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
Dreadclaw69 wrote: I finally got to fire an AK for the first time yesterday. I have to say that I enjoyed it. A lot. Recoil was less than I was expecting. We found a range almost two hours from us and it also has programs for the targets so you can simulate being charged (someone coming at you from 60 foot away does not give you a lot of time to react. Even less if you have to reload mid encounter). There were also moving short exposure targets, and random good guy/bad guy encounters.
It was definitely a worthwhile trip.
Auto or semi?
In related news, I took the new AR to the range today. It was awesome and I'm so glad I built that thing. The SPARC AR red dot was pretty nice, but it pales in comparison to my EOTech... I just can't justify spending the money for another one though.
It was a semi but I still enjoyed the experience. There was a lot less recoil that I was expecting from the 7.62x39, but seeing as I can only fire slugs from my pumpgun at the range I frequent there was no way the recoil was going to be as bad (unless I'm shooting Beowulf )
When we were at the range my wife did better with the moving targets than the stationary targets.
Well, getting close to finishing up another rifle stock. A little bummed that the figure on the right side isn't as pronounced as the other. Here are some shots of it last week. Should have some more soon.
Sorry, had to remove the images.
Non wargaming images are not allowed to be attached, if you wish to share any such images you need to use an off site host.
Looked good though Reds8n
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Elysian Drop Troops, 
Dark Angels, 30K
), Spikes gas tude, BCM low pro gas block, 15" BCM KMR Alpha, #4 BCM charging handle, either a Spikes 
