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Is there anywhere here in the 'States that stocks these models? I really want to order some, but can't find 'em for sale anywhere outside of the official webstore of the game, located in the UK.

~Tim?

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
Is there anywhere here in the 'States that stocks these models? I really want to order some, but can't find 'em for sale anywhere outside of the official webstore of the game, located in the UK.

~Tim?

They haven't been released yet. The stuff is supposed to ship out to KS backers around the end of August, and out to retail some time after that

Here is the last of the KS Renders, and personally I have to say the wait was worth it:

I'm so glad what I decided to include that guy in my pledge now. He's awesome.

Oh my!

Wow, that... that's just perfect.

Mishima continues to impress.

The sad thing is this from the update

4. We are waiting on our 3rd party suppliers to complete their work, but at this time they are holding us back. The 30mm Bases we are informed will be with us by the end of the month. The cases and TShirts by middle of September, but our real slow wheel is the Book and Card Manufacturer. Final layout is taking significantly more time than quoted (to our massive frustration) and obviously printing can not occur until that is complete. At this time we are working on a time line of asap for these, but as yet we can not get a reliable 'actual time line' from them.

so it sounds like more delay, and if there is no book to send they could be substantal

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

4. We are waiting on our 3rd party suppliers to complete their work, but at this time they are holding us back. The 30mm Bases we are informed will be with us by the end of the month. The cases and TShirts by middle of September, but our real slow wheel is the Book and Card Manufacturer. Final layout is taking significantly more time than quoted (to our massive frustration) and obviously printing can not occur until that is complete. At this time we are working on a time line of asap for these, but as yet we can not get a reliable 'actual time line' from them.

Oh my, VERY disappointing.
IMO Prodos Games should consider the option of a split shipment.

I basically just want the minis, or at least some of the minis, so a later shipment of dice, books or so would be perfectly OK for me...

 AAN wrote:
Oh my, VERY disappointing.
IMO Prodos Games should consider the option of a split shipment.

I basically just want the minis, or at least some of the minis, so a later shipment of dice, books or so would be perfectly OK for me...

Do you want it enough to pay for a second postage charge? That is my guess as to why they aren't doing the split shipments.

Also, that is one sexy render!

Basically I would like to have the option!

It would be a nice gesture to offer a split shipment for free, but I doubt that this is possible. The cost would cut too deep into their margin.
But just showning render after render - even very nice ones - and minis that are ready for shipment but are not shipped is not helping me...

Lord Nozaki looks uber-cool and I'll probably get it in a near future but not for my Mishima. Unfortunately other than the swords there is nothing in that miniature that says Mishima to me.
Actually I think the miniature would make an excellent Cartel operative with Mishima roots rather than the shadow Shogun of Mercury.

M.

How big are these? I was assuming they would fit in decently with a certain other heroic scale, but some of those look pretty spindly... surely the slightly larger bases doesn't produce that much of a difference?

 AAN wrote:
Basically I would like to have the option!

It would be a nice gesture to offer a split shipment for free, but I doubt that this is possible. The cost would cut too deep into their margin.
But just showning render after render - even very nice ones - and minis that are ready for shipment but are not shipped is not helping me...

They already are doing a split shipment for free (for the super-heavies), doing a second one would be a killer for just about any company. As is, I still feel bad that I am getting free shipping for my Grizzly and EDD. Part of me almost hopes these delays allow them to get super-heavies in line and do it all in one shipment instead of two. With shipping costs having basically doubled over the last year or so it can be a huge expense.

 Miguelsan wrote:
Lord Nozaki looks uber-cool and I'll probably get it in a near future but not for my Mishima. Unfortunately other than the swords there is nothing in that miniature that says Mishima to me.
Actually I think the miniature would make an excellent Cartel operative with Mishima roots rather than the shadow Shogun of Mercury.

M.

He is very Meiji Restoration actually. I think that's what I like about him. It looks like he's wearing a tailored Bauhaus suit with Mishiman stylings (Bauhaus do make the best suits after all). I quite like the effect. Different than the feudal stylings of most of the units but with definite Japanese aesthetic cues that line up well with the old vs. new divide of the faction itself (since Mishima is, in a lot of ways, Cyberpunk Meiji Restoration Japan).

 Ronin_eX wrote:

 Miguelsan wrote:
Lord Nozaki looks uber-cool and I'll probably get it in a near future but not for my Mishima. Unfortunately other than the swords there is nothing in that miniature that says Mishima to me.
Actually I think the miniature would make an excellent Cartel operative with Mishima roots rather than the shadow Shogun of Mercury.

M.

He is very Meiji Restoration actually. I think that's what I like about him. It looks like he's wearing a tailored Bauhaus suit with Mishiman stylings (Bauhaus do make the best suits after all). I quite like the effect. Different than the feudal stylings of most of the units but with definite Japanese aesthetic cues that line up well with the old vs. new divide of the faction itself (since Mishima is, in a lot of ways, Cyberpunk Meiji Restoration Japan).

I got that same vibe from the little concept art that was showen, and it the reason I went out on a limb picking the guy up.

I always found the Meiji Resteration a more aestheticly interesting period then just the feudal Japan everyone goes to by default. It was just such a crazy mash up of normally conflicting aesthetics.

The Mishima Meka and a couple of Ronin friends:


The Behemoth and Judicator: (model in the fore ground 28mm)

That looks quite spiffy indeed! I like the more modernized aesthetic while staying true to the original style. Bauhaus and Mishima larger models seem to be turning out great and so far the Orca IMO is the only lemon out of the big guys.

That Mishima mech - so awesome!

 Alpharius wrote:
That Mishima mech - so awesome!

Brilliant, innit? I really wanna get myself a Mishima starter box one of these days. Gonna paint 'em up with deep venetian red cloth with white accents, and the armor will be deep tan with teal markings...Now if only I had the $$$ and time.

~Tim?

These all look phenomenal!
Looking forward for what they do with Imperials once they get through fulfillment and (hopefully) establish themselves a bit.
Still glad I didn't pledge, too much still coming down the pipe that I won't see for a year or more.

Is Imperial going to get done at some stage?

So much awesome (There's even a nice looking Vorreiter track-bike in the back). The Meka is one of my favourite designs yet and it is looking amazing in the flesh. And that Praetorian Behemoth is stunning.

cadbren wrote:
Is Imperial going to get done at some stage?

Definitely, they said they would be handled as a normal release outside of Kickstarter. The one example of an Imperial Doomtrooper they have made looks bloody fantastic and has me wanting to do up an Imperial list when they come along.

Mirrormen:

I hate to say it, but I think the MIrrormen are the first figures I don't like. The heads are neat, but the rest not so much. Not digging the poses either.

So most people seem cool with the resin in this
and
not too upset with the plastics being yanked?

 5deadly wrote:
So most people seem cool with the resin in this
and
not too upset with the plastics being yanked?

Only the shamefully negative naysayers like me are upset. But that's okay. Prodos doesn't need my money.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 5deadly wrote:
So most people seem cool with the resin in this
and
not too upset with the plastics being yanked?

Only the shamefully negative naysayers like me are upset. But that's okay. Prodos doesn't need my money.

Bob we do care.

Maybe you could let me know what characteristics of plastic your particularly like and equally what of resin you do not.

The reason I ask is that although WZR mini arenot be made of 'styrene' plastic, famous from GW. The resin we are using is different to any other mini manufacturer out there and has very different characteristics to the FW or finecast resin, and is equally different to that you may have seen from maximini, Mantic or PP. Technically our resin is a plastic (although not styrene which the gaming community know as plastic)

I look forward to reading your thoughts

 Alpharius wrote:
Mirrormen:

Yeah, the angle makes 'em look a little naff. Though this one from the front improves my opinion of them considerably. Mostly they just suffer from Infinity-style dynamic-droptroop-posing; but the detail and look are pretty good.



But the official preview is laid out in a way that does them no favours. Front guy looks odd because of the perspective distorting his legs (I think he's sprinting forward?), the one on the right (which I believe is the one in the above render) has its leg cut off so that it looks like it is goofy-running instead of dodging to the side. The one on the left isn't too bad.

But I think a few pose tweaks would make them look great. The details and overall look are just about perfect.

While I appreciate a manufacturer trying to push the envelope, I wish they'd chill out on the super crazy posing. The idea is great, but the execution never works out.

The Martian Banshee in..landing mode or jumping backwards as an example...extreme dislike. I kinda want to ask if there might be a pack of them without him? I want 10 when they release, but don't want him.

Well with a small repose, no shoulder pads and a different head and weaponry - They look perfect for my Crysis Nanosuit Assassin project.

When are they released? - Site says august?!

Yeah, that new shot really does evoke the Nanosuit. I'll agree, the first photo does not do them any favors and that new image does certainly make them look a lot cooler. However, I think a little more tweaking of his pose is in order. I think my problem, with that pose at least is his right arm. He appears to be jumping to the side, but shooting straight ahead. If his right arm were just pointing slightly more to the right side, I think he would look tons better. I'd love to see the parts that will be in their box though.

Prodos wrote:

Bob we do care.

Maybe you could let me know what characteristics of plastic your particularly like and equally what of resin you do not.

The reason I ask is that although WZR mini arenot be made of 'styrene' plastic, famous from GW. The resin we are using is different to any other mini manufacturer out there and has very different characteristics to the FW or finecast resin, and is equally different to that you may have seen from maximini, Mantic or PP. Technically our resin is a plastic (although not styrene which the gaming community know as plastic)

I look forward to reading your thoughts

Well, one of the most important aspects of plastic (in the community's sense) is that it works with plastic glue. Plastic glue creates an instant adhesion, yet the join remains adjustable for a while allowing me to get a pose exactly how I want it. This is especially important for models with separate arms that need to connect to the torso and also with each other or hold a rifle. The sheer frustration I feel when gluing restic or metal minis has devalued those media for me (especially trying to make Mantic's restic Corporation minis look like they are actually aiming their weapons, or assembling similar models).

Resin tends to be difficult to clean and paint and also difficult to keep intact. Restic is even worse for cleaning. Metal isn't too bad for mold lines and flash, but is a nightmare when I want to use it in a conversion. Plastic (the styrene used by GW, WGF, Renedra, etc.) is easy to clean, durable and easy to convert. I am more than willing to deal with slightly 'softer' detail or a lack of undercuts for the sheer joy of working with actual plastic. Pieces tend to fit better, too, which means I don't have to worry as much about gap filling or sanding or any of the parts of modelling I don't like. Then there's the fact that plastic usually comes on sprues, which means more models per box or unit of money, or else more options and bits.

After dealing with Sedition Wars and Kings of War, I have realized that I just don't enjoy working with media other than plastic enough to warrant the expense, especially when Dreamforge and WGF and Mantic will all be producing kits that fit just about every niche I'm interested in--and all in plastic.

When I saw your Kickstarter, I was very excited. I already enjoy my old Warzone "plastic" figures, even if they are not the best kind of plastic, and your sculpts look superior to them in every way. When I heard the main troops for each faction would be plastic, I was sold. Now that I know there will be no plastics, all of my excitement is gone. Instead of great plastic kits, your products sound like they will be comparatively more expensive per model with fewer options, less bling, and a whole lot less fun to assemble and paint. Instead of standing out from the over-glutted sci-fi mini market, your products now seem to blend right in with all the other boutique-scale sci fi products that look interesting but not special enough to buy.

However, I would like to hear more about what makes your "not plastic but not resin" material different from what's already on the market. Maybe there is some advantage to it that is not yet obvious?