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I need some help. Trying to set up a basic Rotarycraft assembly (extractor) and it's not really letting me....ANNOYING.

I found rotary craft was pretty hard to get into compared to other mods.

 Doctadeth wrote:
I need some help. Trying to set up a basic Rotarycraft assembly (extractor) and it's not really letting me....ANNOYING.

The RotaryCraft handbook has a lot of the necessary information nowadays; its recipe should be visible with NEI.

I don't know where you need help specifically, so i'll just summarize some of the important bits to set up an extractor.
The extractor needs power from below using a bevel gear, water for two of the intermediate stages and has different minimum power/torque/angular velocity requirements for its four stages. Most RotaryCraft machines process tasks faster with more angular velocity than required as long as the minimal torque/power requirement is fulfilled. For the four extractor stages the minimal and maximal (useful) values are:

1) 512 Nm torque, 65,536 W, i.e. 128rad/s ang. vel. with minimum torque (512 Nm and 32,768/s for maximum speed)
2) 8 Nm at 2,048/s (maximum speed with 1 Nm and 1,048,576/s)
3) 4 Nm at 8,192/s (maximum speed with 1 Nm and 1,048,576/s)
4) 256 Nm at 256/s (maximum speed with 256 Nm and 32,768/s)

If the extractor is not powered with enough torque or speed to process a later stage the ores or intermediate products will just sit in the machine until it is supplied with enough power (or a factorization router pulls them out of the different slots). To power all four stages in a single extractor without additional external input you therefore need a minimum of 512 Nm torque and 8,192 rad/s speed. That amount of power can be supplied with a couple of gears and two microturbines, higher tier magnetostatic engine(s), a jet engine or several lower tier engines combined with shaft junctions.

A better approach for the beginning is to change the input power during ore processing so that e.g. stages 1 and 4 get 512 Nm at >= 128 rad/s and stages 2 and 3 get 4 Nm at >= 8,192 rad/s. This can be achieved with an alternating redstone signal and a variable gearbox, the CVT or with (omni-directional-) clutches and different non-variable gearboxes. The minimum power requirements would be 65,536 W (a single gasoline engine with a four-times gearbox) and 32,768 W (two steam engines with gearboxes). Combined in a single machine you could use a gasoline engine, connect it to an omni-directional-clutch with alternating redstone signal and set to output to one of two different sides, place a single four-times gearbox set to torque mode on one branch and a four- and eight-times gearbox both set to speed on the other, and combine both branches with a bevel and shaft junction. The output of the shaft junction will be either 512 Nm at 128/s or 4 Nm at 16,384/s depending on the redstone signal and can directly power all four stages of an extractor (it will process stages 1 and 4 in parallel while waiting for 2 and 3 until the redstone signal switches).

If you have access to two factorization routers and several extractors a faster and energy efficient way to power the ore processing is to use different extractors for single or double stages, e.g. power an extractor with 512 Nm of torque and as much speed (128/s <= speed <= 32,768/s) as you can supply, have a router pull out the intermediate products after stage one and feed those into another (set of) extractor(s) set to 1 Nm and 32,768 rad/s to 1,048,576 rad/s. The next router pulls out the products after stage three and feeds them into the last set of extractors set to 256 Nm and 256 rad/s to 32,768 rad/s.

To build, power and lubricate all of the necessary machines and parts mentioned above you probably need a blast furnace (there's one at spawn), grinder and fermenter. The latter two can be powered with a low tier magnetostatic engine if you have the RF from some other mod, steam or dc engines from RotaryCraft or a fuel powered engine again from RotaryCraft in case you have access to refined BC oil. A canola farm and grinder setup allows the use of hydrokinetic engines if you don't want to go the gasoline - jet fuel or the RF - magnetostatic route.
I would recommend magnetostatic engines at some point though as RF is so much easier to transport than RotaryCraft shaft power (or alternatively ElectriCraft induction motors).

 Minx wrote:
i'll just summarize some of the important bits

That's RotaryCraft!

 darkinnit wrote:

 Minx wrote:
i'll just summarize some of the important bits

That's RotaryCraft!

Yup lol.

Yeah, I read the whole rotarycraft book. It gave me a headache. But yeah, I needed that bevel gear....Thats a really tough mod, so I'm actually going to do it!

Another reminder for those that aren't actively playing and seeing the in-game messages:
I'd like to shut the old Monster server down for good by September 9th.

If people still haven't gotten around to moving items across, I'm ok to leave it running until then, but if everyone is completely finished with it and there's no point keeping it running, I could also shut it down early.

I know people have asked for a fun send off for the old server, so I would be willing to enable creative mode for a few days. (after disabling the Qcraft portal link of course ).

Are we taking a poll? Personally, I've transferred pretty much everything of worth.

I've gotten everything of value as well.

No, it's not a poll, just a warning to anyone who still has stuff on the old server to speak up and let me know if they are going to stash their stuff or if they need more time etc.

If no-one is speaking up despite these warnings, it's probably safe to say that the old server can be shut down early.

I can always retrieve items from backups in an absolute worst case scenario.

I have a surplus of diamond, glowstone, creeper and skeleton seeds. If anyone needs some of them feel free to take them from my mailbox-ender chest at spawn.


I've also tried to craft mariculture blue neon lamps but all the NEI recipes only produce white neon lamps. Does anyone know the correct recipe or a way to colour them?

Well, if you're offering, I might take some diamond ones myself

I may grab some of the glowstone and diamond. Maybe some of the Skeleton seeds, too. And possibly a creeper one, just to be able to make music discs.

 darkinnit wrote:
Another reminder for those that aren't actively playing and seeing the in-game messages:
I'd like to shut the old Monster server down for good by September 9th.

If people still haven't gotten around to moving items across, I'm ok to leave it running until then, but if everyone is completely finished with it and there's no point keeping it running, I could also shut it down early.

I know people have asked for a fun send off for the old server, so I would be willing to enable creative mode for a few days. (after disabling the Qcraft portal link of course ).

I'll try to get my stuff in the next few days. Thanks for the heads up!

 GangstaMuffin24 wrote:

 darkinnit wrote:
Another reminder for those that aren't actively playing and seeing the in-game messages:
I'd like to shut the old Monster server down for good by September 9th.

If people still haven't gotten around to moving items across, I'm ok to leave it running until then, but if everyone is completely finished with it and there's no point keeping it running, I could also shut it down early.

I know people have asked for a fun send off for the old server, so I would be willing to enable creative mode for a few days. (after disabling the Qcraft portal link of course ).

I'll try to get my stuff in the next few days. Thanks for the heads up!

Cool. Also another friendly reminder to try not to take too much through the portal at once (there seems to be a limit). As a rough estimate, try to avoid taking more than 20 AE 16K storage cells worth of stuff at a time. Also use the "/qcraft verify" command after travelling through the portal if you don't immediately receive your items on the other side.

Finally, if it's your first trip to the new server, keep three or four slots empty for the various tutorial books that it spawns you with. There's a trash can by the portal for any unwanted items. (Completely unrelated statements of course )

My fiery thaumcraft pants just melted the ice block underneath the portals quantum computer on the old server. I'll try to repair it in the next few minutes/hours depending on where i can find ice

Grab snowballs and stuff them in a compressor.

 Melissia wrote:
Grab snowballs and stuff them in a compressor.

I already found some ice; good idea though.
Unfortunately spawn protection keeps me from repairing the portal. I'll leave the ice in a chest near the portal and wait for our beloved god-emperor admin.

Edit: It's all fixed now. Thank you darkinnit.

Ah I hadn't seen these posts, so I just cheated some ice in. I'm such a cheater

Hey Dark I think the server might be down.

Yep, but the scheduled restart is just about to happen, so I'll just wait for that rather than have it restart twice.

Dark, something just happened. I just started spontaeously combusting and interacting with everything around me. I tried to limit the damage, but I screwed up big. It was really weird and I don't know what caused it. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Spontaneously combusting?

Were you holding Railcraft Firestone Ore?

Didn't have any in inventory,


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Going to relog.....fairly sure I didn't have any in Inv. I don't tend to mine ore I don't know. Yeah, don't have it in inventory. Argh, And I just got clocked for like 5 fire damage, and looks like spawn damage is huge, What the heck....I'm really upset,

Edit 2.
Somehow I had some in my inventory. I don't remember mining any, so server needs a rollback. Really weird.

The server doesn't need a rollback just because you burned a few logs by accident. I repaired the logs and leaves etc by hand, only took a couple of minutes.

Spawn's fine.

shiiiiiiiiny!

Sorry aboot that Dark.

Here's some more shinies:

Those are amazing

Hah. Those are indeed amazing and really pretty.

Damn. I really need to get to work on stuff.

Are those renders, or are they screenshotted live with some texturepack+shaders?