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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 20:14:07
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Good to see we have some Orks posting to the forum.
I'm not sure that flyers are all that good. The counter to a flyer is a quad gun or Icarus lascannon with interceptor. Flyers seem to die the round they come in, unless the gun gets a few bad rolls. Even if you can't kill it the round you come in, it's gotta go after your lascannon or quad gun or it will die the next turn.
(I play Necrons, so I don't bring either of them. Flyers die horribly to 20 rapid fire guass warriors with tank hunter).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2000/02/21 20:18:25
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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frogy27 wrote:And what's wrong withuse the term British money and i believe that you need British money to get fw
I only use British money, but I buy from US sites all the time.
FW will take any currency, as PayPal and credit card companies convert to anything.
[Edit: rudeness removed]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 20:26:02
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Southampton, Hampshire, England, British Isles, Europe, Earth, Sol, Sector 001
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Skinnereal wrote:frogy27 wrote:And what's wrong withuse the term British money and i believe that you need British money to get fw
As my final morsel I throw to the troll, I only use British money, but I buy from US sites all the time.
FW will take any currency, as PayPal and credit card companies convert to anything.
But, I won't see your reply to see if this helps, as you're the first person on my ignore list.
Bye bye, frogy
FW wont take all currency...they wont take my soul for the DoK range
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 20:27:09
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Ribon Fox wrote: Skinnereal wrote:frogy27 wrote:And what's wrong withuse the term British money and i believe that you need British money to get fw
As my final morsel I throw to the troll, I only use British money, but I buy from US sites all the time.
FW will take any currency, as PayPal and credit card companies convert to anything.
But, I won't see your reply to see if this helps, as you're the first person on my ignore list.
Bye bye, frogy
FW wont take all currency...they wont take my soul for the DoK range 
At the rate things are going, GW will be accepting that as standard payment, by this time next year
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 20:32:14
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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Terrifying Wraith
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Ribon Fox wrote: Skinnereal wrote:frogy27 wrote:And what's wrong withuse the term British money and i believe that you need British money to get fw
As my final morsel I throw to the troll, I only use British money, but I buy from US sites all the time.
FW will take any currency, as PayPal and credit card companies convert to anything.
But, I won't see your reply to see if this helps, as you're the first person on my ignore list.
Bye bye, frogy
FW wont take all currency...they wont take my soul for the DoK range 
You lose your soul the first time you buy FW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 20:36:42
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Southampton, Hampshire, England, British Isles, Europe, Earth, Sol, Sector 001
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Good thing I've never had the cash to, most of it goes on food :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 20:39:36
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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Slaanesh Havoc with Blastmaster
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I was laughing quite a bit at this thread and then the wife who works with special needs children asked a question ...and then I was like ohhhhh.....
but on a serious note though ...frogy you're beating a dead horse..listen to these people or stop complaining..all you're doing is setting yourself up for early onset of arthritis in your fingers if you keep this up...
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and why the heck was my home country flag changed to peurto rico? wtf
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Looking forward to the opening of 40k: The Musical
List of TV show ideas: Late night with Kharne, Farseer and friends, Sigvald in Space
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 20:40:27
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yeah. I'm guessing 12 or so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 20:54:10
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Dundee, Scotland/Dharahn, Saudi Arabia
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You know what they say,
"There are none so blind as those who will not see"
Your solutions are simple
1. Play objectives.
2. Get some anti-air, Hydra/emplaced AA
3. Learn to kit bash, it's not hard, a chimera with a quad cannon on the back makes a good hydra.
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If the thought of something makes me giggle for longer than 15 seconds, I am to assume that I am not allowed to do it. item 87, skippys list
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 20:55:29
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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1st Lieutenant
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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May we ask how old you are? Not to be offensive, but you seem to have a sub-par grasp of the rules, and an almost non-existent knowledge of economics and converting/modeling.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 20:59:55
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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Regular Dakkanaut
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My biggest chuckle with fliers is whoever priced the vendetta. Someone sat there and thought, lets make a flying lascannon predator but with one less front armor, and while were at it why don't we let it carry troops and for a cherry on top I think all the cannons should be twin linked that fires at full bs while moving. Oh and it Should definitely cost less.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:01:58
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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Battleship Captain
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krazykishere wrote:My biggest chuckle with fliers is whoever priced the vendetta. Someone sat there and thought, lets make a flying lascannon predator but with one less front armor, and while were at it why don't we let it carry troops and for a cherry on top I think all the cannons should be twin linked that fires at full bs while moving. Oh and it Should definitely cost less.
When the vendetta was made, it was a skimmer...
130 for a wave serpent with three TL lascannons isn't THAT ridiculous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:03:51
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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krazykishere wrote:My biggest chuckle with fliers is whoever priced the vendetta. Someone sat there and thought, lets make a flying lascannon predator but with one less front armor, and while were at it why don't we let it carry troops and for a cherry on top I think all the cannons should be twin linked that fires at full bs while moving. Oh and it Should definitely cost less.
Reeks of Matt Ward.. Maybe he got into the printer just before codex production began, because he simply had to put cheese everywhere
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:04:33
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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1st Lieutenant
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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krazykishere wrote:My biggest chuckle with fliers is whoever priced the vendetta. Someone sat there and thought, lets make a flying lascannon predator but with one less front armor, and while were at it why don't we let it carry troops and for a cherry on top I think all the cannons should be twin linked that fires at full bs while moving. Oh and it Should definitely cost less.
The Vendetta WAS a skimmer, and it was fairly priced for a skimmer as well. When 6th came out, it became a flier, and it happened to age well. The price really should be much higher, and I am surprised they haven't FAQ'd it yet
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:06:34
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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washout77 wrote:krazykishere wrote:My biggest chuckle with fliers is whoever priced the vendetta. Someone sat there and thought, lets make a flying lascannon predator but with one less front armor, and while were at it why don't we let it carry troops and for a cherry on top I think all the cannons should be twin linked that fires at full bs while moving. Oh and it Should definitely cost less.
The Vendetta WAS a skimmer, and it was fairly priced for a skimmer as well. When 6th came out, it became a flier, and it happened to age well. The price really should be much higher, and I am surprised they haven't FAQ'd it yet
Why would they? They're part of the IOM, sopposedly the most technologically disadvantaged race [Because orks have waaagh majykz], with the most oppressed people, and armies that get massacred by the millions, why wouldn't they have an OP super-unit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:08:32
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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washout77 wrote:krazykishere wrote:My biggest chuckle with fliers is whoever priced the vendetta. Someone sat there and thought, lets make a flying lascannon predator but with one less front armor, and while were at it why don't we let it carry troops and for a cherry on top I think all the cannons should be twin linked that fires at full bs while moving. Oh and it Should definitely cost less.
The Vendetta WAS a skimmer, and it was fairly priced for a skimmer as well. When 6th came out, it became a flier, and it happened to age well. The price really should be much higher, and I am surprised they haven't FAQ'd it yet
It wasn't even priced well back then. It was underpriced by a fair bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:09:56
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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Battleship Captain
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Selym wrote:
Why would they? They're part of the IOM, sopposedly the most technologically disadvantaged race [Because orks have waaagh majykz], with the most oppressed people, and armies that get massacred by the millions, why wouldn't they have an OP super-unit?
I can't tell if you're serious.
The Vendetta is hardly an OP super-unit.
It's three lascannons. They can't shoot until turn 2 at the earliest. They have fixed mobility. They're armor 12, 12, 10. That means bolters glance their rear armor.
That's not OP. That's just a good unit.
The broken thing is the lack of anti-air. It has nothing to do with the Vendetta.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:10:00
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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frogy27 wrote:
Side note my group don't play objective based games always last man standing wins type of games our kill points.
There's your problem. You're playing with guys that want to play with house rules. Demand objective games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:10:08
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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1st Lieutenant
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
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Selym wrote: washout77 wrote:krazykishere wrote:My biggest chuckle with fliers is whoever priced the vendetta. Someone sat there and thought, lets make a flying lascannon predator but with one less front armor, and while were at it why don't we let it carry troops and for a cherry on top I think all the cannons should be twin linked that fires at full bs while moving. Oh and it Should definitely cost less.
The Vendetta WAS a skimmer, and it was fairly priced for a skimmer as well. When 6th came out, it became a flier, and it happened to age well. The price really should be much higher, and I am surprised they haven't FAQ'd it yet
Why would they? They're part of the IOM, sopposedly the most technologically disadvantaged race [Because orks have waaagh majykz], with the most oppressed people, and armies that get massacred by the millions, why wouldn't they have an OP super-unit?
The Vendetta is strong, wouldn't call it OP though (and I play quite a few armies besides IG, so I have faced just as many Vendetta's as I have used them. Which is not at all, because im too lazy to put together the model for it yet while my foot army is still working haha). There is a difference between being OP and just being really underpriced. It doesn't need any rule changes, it just needs to be costed higher.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:14:43
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Being undercosted was the point heh. It just seems most ridiculous to me when I lookk at it next to my las predator. Oh I forgot that it also has skyfire.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:16:46
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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Battleship Captain
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krazykishere wrote:Being undercosted was the point heh. It just seems most ridiculous to me when I lookk at it next to my las predator. Oh I forgot that it also has skyfire.
Well the Las Predator also is horribly overcosted. Not exactly a fair comparison.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:18:15
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I do not think the chaos predator is badly priced and that is the one I am comparing it to.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:20:34
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Southampton, Hampshire, England, British Isles, Europe, Earth, Sol, Sector 001
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Leave my Vendettas alone it's the only bit of super tech the IG have. The rest of the stuff we have to use is junk compared to it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:20:55
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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Battleship Captain
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krazykishere wrote:I do not think the chaos predator is badly priced and that is the one I am comparing it to.
Okay, so your Las Predator is 10 points more than a similar unit in the IG Codex, except ours flies. Problem is, compare any Power Armor Codex's vehicles to IG vehicles, and IG Vehicles look ridiculous.
Know why? Because our troops are guardsmen. We NEED those vehicles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:23:19
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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Just remember that the IG has a good codex.
for three reasons Orders squadrons and vendettas
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:23:49
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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Regular Dakkanaut
Massachusetts
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If they didn't raise the vendettas price in the Death from the Skies "expansion" it seems pretty unlikely that they'll ever faq the price to be higher. It seems to me that a lack of readily available AA is much more the problem than any single flyer, not that this is the case for frogy, as he plays IG. As more 6th edition codexes come out, AA will become more commonplace and the vendetta will seem less OTT. Hell, the new Tau codex is rumored to have a flyer with a railgun.
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Space Wolves - 1500 pts
Orks - WIP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:35:12
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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No, average 12-year-old doesn't write such horrible English. Hell, average Finnish 12-year-old writes way better English than that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:39:23
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ok am 28 have a hard ime with written stuff i only been playin a yr now 5ed was how i being the game just seems 6ed changed so much in the game for me like all my armor being useless and now haveing to spamd flyers to win because of lack off AAA in games and like i said if yoy table some one best way to win and easiest in my book as that all plyers do now in games . i really liked 5ed when armor ment something now its all flyer And infy up the butt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:42:31
Subject: Re:flyers so killed 40k
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Battleship Captain
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frogy27 wrote:Ok am 28 have a hard ime with written stuff i only been playin a yr now 5ed was how i being the game just seems 6ed changed so much in the game for me like all my armor being useless and now haveing to spamd flyers to win because of lack off AAA in games and like i said if yoy table some one best way to win and easiest in my book as that all plyers do now in games . i really liked 5ed when armor ment something now its all flyer And infy up the butt
You need to take your time writing your posts if you have trouble writing. No one is going to go anywhere. Take a few extra minutes to correct all those words with red, squiggly lines underneath them.
Armor is not useless. Flyers are not mandatory (however having one or two doesn't hurt)
Tabling someone is hard to do if both players are good.
Again, armor is not useless.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/21 21:48:36
Subject: flyers so killed 40k
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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A famous legal quote
"sir, I take issue with your sentence, beginning on page 1 and ending on page 53."
Heheh, love that one.
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