New Tau Codex - April 6'th [Pics, Video and Prices in OP]

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**Coyote81**

Just bring bastions like I do. Cover all day.

**hotsauceman1**

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
The Riptide's stated purpose is to fill gaps in the tau battleline, and give cover for other units..that being said its sort of a "fire brigade unit", (in the manner of the XV-9 but hopefully with a bit longer ranges) with jump jets and alot of longrange fire power (hopefully), I will likely use it to go where its needed, deal with what it can, and relocate if possible, CC is the last place I will want to tie it up in, but who knows in a worse case senario it may preform well, but likely it will serve best as a mobile tough, LOS blocking support unit.

Cant wait to start digesting the rules and posibilities for these new units.

I cant wait to just read the new fluff TBH, what i hate about old codexes is the tiny blips you get about units.

**focusedfire**

Ravenous D wrote:
And is posable, so drop that sucker low to get aegis cover saves.

This reminds me of something that I've been meaning to bring up.

I don't think most here are getting just how large the XV104 is. By the leaked photos, a Crisis suit doesn't even reach its knee. I could be wrong but the thing looks to be 12+ inches tall. Maybe 15 inches. Again, I could be wrong, but at that height there won't be many cover saves available.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

**Archonate**

If only we had 4th edition's size/cover rules. As a 'size 3' the XV104 could hide behind any building.
I'm betting the thing is around 8-9 inches tall.

**RogueRegault**

Swiftblade wrote:
hotsauceman1 wrote:
Looks like elites might get crowded.

Yeah. The riptide looks like it can pack in alot of extra dakka or railguns, but crisis suits will always be a Tau centerpiece. the fact those two alone have to fight it out for elite slots will be interesting to see.

Maybe Shas'vre bodyguards will actually be worth taking now.

**Soo'Vah'Cha**

focusedfire wrote:
Ravenous D wrote:
And is posable, so drop that sucker low to get aegis cover saves.

This reminds me of something that I've been meaning to bring up.

I don't think most here are getting just how large the XV104 is. By the leaked photos, a Crisis suit doesn't even reach its knee. I could be wrong but the thing looks to be 12+ inches tall. Maybe 15 inches. Again, I could be wrong, but at that height there won't be many cover saves available.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Based on the group pic its roughly 2.5 crisis suits high at its tallest point, not even close to 12 -15 inches tall, thats titan size, my guess is its at best 6" tall, and thats streching it a bit, plus if you really want to, model it kneeling, like in one of the pics

And cover saves depend on the terrain and table, the ones I play on with buddies has terrain easily capable of concealing even superheavies.

Just did a quick check and a crisis suit with base is about 2.2" tall, so the riptide at around 6" is my best guess on its height.

**focusedfire**

Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Based on the group pic its roughly 2.5 crisis suits high at its tallest point, not even close to 12 -15 inches tall, thats titan size, my guess is its at best 6" tall, and thats streching it a bit, plus if you really want to, model it kneeling, like in one of the pics

Group pic I looked at, the XV104 was kneeling and the XV8's were barely waste high. Will try to find the page with the one standing next to a crisis suit that looked to be only knee high.(It may be one of the pics that was taken down)

BTW, Love your Oddball avatar.

**Ledabot**

We know that an XV8 is the same size as a dreadnought in height. We also know that a space marine is about half the height of a dread. If we take your figure of 2.5 XV8's to an XV104, then we get the big fella to about 40 feet or 12m, just shy of a warhound. I would put in at a more accurate figure of around 30 feet or 9m. That takes a marine to be about 7 feet tall and the riptide to be about 2.2 XV8s

**focusedfire**

Upon closer look at one of the remaining pics, the XV104 looks to be between 10-12 inches tall.

Again, could be wrong. Angle of photo could be playing perspective tricks.

**bolo**

The XV104 Riptide Battlesuit is roughly 7 to 8 inches tall, depending on how it is put together.

**Soo'Vah'Cha**

In the above pic the Riptide is a tiny bit behind a crisis suit, and is not kneeling, so with a rough finger measure..its about 2.4-5 of a crisis with base added, or so it appears to me, if memory serves the kneeling one they showed had its left leg up and its right knee down.

Sorry but its not even close to 12" unless you put it on a flying base.

**focusedfire**

^Notice that the Suit in that pic is squatting/striding low. The back leg is bent considerably. Look at the front leg and the Crisis suit just to the right of it.

That crisis suit is just breaking the knee high mark. Again, camera angle looks to be a factor but I stand by my last estimate of 10+ inches when standing fully erect until a better picture of scale can be found.

Hmmm, How tall are the average Flier stands?

The XV 104 looks to be as tall as the new Tau Flier and Stand combined.

**Soo'Vah'Cha**

I would be willing to bet big money on its height, but at any rate if GW was to give us a 12" tall model (which is warhound size) for uder a 100 bucks , it will be the most generous plastic donation to the 40k masses.

The kneeling one can be seen on the first page, aswell.

**Eldercaveman**

It's about the same height as the flying base stand. You'll know how big it is when it gets assaulted by a Tervigon in the WD batrep.

**McNinja**

I'm willing to bet the model is under 10". A foot tall model is... silly, to say the least, and GW would gladly charge you out the bum for it.

**Shas'O...Crap**

It looks to be about the height of a flying stem give or take.

**Puscifer**

I'm going to guess 8 inches for the Riptide in the above pic.

**Coyote81**

~same as Dreadknight imo

**Ledabot**

like a dreadknight, but bulkier. I want to hold one to feel the weight.

**Eldercaveman**

I'm just excited to see the first 'opentopped' conversion, showing the little fire caste dude inside

**Ledabot**

Of the XV104? Where would you get in? Its too dam big for the front to fold out like an XV8. There must be some kind of hatch on the back or something.

**Eldercaveman**

Ledabot wrote:
Of the XV104? Where would you get in? Its too dam big for the front to fold out like an XV8. There must be some kind of hatch on the back or something.

Which is why I can't wait to see someone do it, it will happen. It's bound to, especially now I have mentioned it.

**Plumbumbarum**

King Pariah wrote:
Plumbumbarum wrote:
...but Tau don't fit 40k at all.

Yeah, because the galaxy is too small a setting to have that kind of variety.

It is big enough to have the variety of the bar form Star Wars (where Kroot would fit greatly btw), why do it though.

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Y'know what doesnt fit in 40k? Orks, They are just to silly to be a serious threat.

They're a ridiculous, OTT and brutal, they fit much more than Tau imo, I know what you mean but 40k is not hard sf but space fantasy. It is grimdark though and Tau as a contrast are not needed, they spoil it imo.

Besides nice greys dressed as samurai are just as silly as space orks.

**Eldercaveman**

Plumbumbarum wrote:
King Pariah wrote:
Plumbumbarum wrote:
...but Tau don't fit 40k at all.

Yeah, because the galaxy is too small a setting to have that kind of variety.

It is big enough to have the variety of the bar form Star Wars (where Kroot would fit greatly btw), why do it though.

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Y'know what doesnt fit in 40k? Orks, They are just to silly to be a serious threat.

They're a ridiculous, OTT and brutal, they fit much more than Tau imo, I know what you mean but 40k is not hard sf but space fantasy. It is grimdark though and Tau as a contrast are not needed, they spoil it imo.

Besides nice greys dressed as samurai are just as silly as space orks.

Who says Tau aren't Grimdark?

**TechmarineNic**

Well, before they released the new DA codex they published a black library book about the Ravenwing (the DA fast attack 2nd company) a few weeks before the codex came out. Now you see the new Tau novel "Shadowsun" I expect this is to get Tau players warmed up for the new codex.

**Soo'Vah'Cha**

My guess for pilot acess is the door/aperature/hatch, slightly below the "head" sensor array, since thats been show to be where the crisis pilot acess point is, pluse it looks pretty simular.

As to how a pilot would get in, maybe it crouches, or they wheel up a ladder, or he stands on the top of a drone, who knows

And to if Tau are grimdark or not, thats more of a discussion for the background forum, not so much the news and rumors.

**Ledabot**

I was going to say that the plate with the Tau symbol looks like it could fold out, but the black rectangle thing above it would have to be a handle then. Actually, it could be a handle to get in. I hope it locks when your inside or you could jack it while the poor fellow is still inside.

**Eldercaveman**

Ledabot wrote:
I was going to say that the plate with the Tau symbol looks like it could fold out, but the black rectangle thing above it would have to be a handle then. Actually, it could be a handle to get in. I hope it locks when your inside or you could jack it while the poor fellow is still inside.

Looted Riptide anyone?

**Brother Captain Alexander**

via The Dude over on Warseer
When the Fireblade was first described to me it was as being like a Wolfguard battle leader.
Low level HQ choice.

**Spyral**

Might be a way of getting special weapons into squads of FW...