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Prices seem high compared to what we used to pay, but I've paid £100+ for a single anime figure before, so I'll probably just suck it up and buy things gradually here. One kit a month should keep the costs at bay whilst helping me spread out the hobbying with my other duties

 Bewareofthephil wrote:
Prices seem high compared to what we used to pay, but I've paid £100+ for a single anime figure before, so I'll probably just suck it up and buy things gradually here. One kit a month should keep the costs at bay whilst helping me spread out the hobbying with my other duties

going with you on this one, the last time we bought the "new" tau stuff things where 30%+ cheaper.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Those prices make me laugh so hard

was going to say that^^
I mean..
wow... XD
I don't even know what to say really^^


Please don't use this term on Dakka. Thanks.

 Zweischneid wrote:

 Capamaru wrote:
People that are overexcited about Tau are people that are fond of the mecha style army.

Wrong.

Well your answer for sure clarifies everything... You are much of a talkative person...

So people fond of tau are the ones fond of Mecha style and gun line armies. If the pricing is true and with no new crysis suits I don't see many new players in the tau ranks.

 Capamaru wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:

 Capamaru wrote:
People that are overexcited about Tau are people that are fond of the mecha style army.

Wrong.

Well your answer for sure clarifies everything... You are much of a talkative person...

So people fond of tau are the ones fond of Mecha style and gun line armies. If the pricing is true and with no new crysis suits I don't see many new players in the tau ranks.

What is there to clarify.

I ( and most of my gaming group ) are (over)excited about Tau, yet none are Mecha-style fans. Infact, the most lamentable part of the old Tau Codex is that you need Crisis suits for any decent list, and the more interesting miniatures (Fire Warriors, Sniper Teams, Drones, Vespids, Pathfinders) and a more "modern" combined-arms approach (e.g. markerlights) which are the main reason people are fond of Tau didn't get much lovin.

Besides, people fond of mecha-style armies play Eldar anyhow (or.. Heavy Gear, etc..). And people fond of gun-line armies play Space Wolves



Anyhow, there is actually a discussion on the 40K boards of this very forum on why people play Tau. Some do(!) like the suits, but they are hardly the majority.

But don't take my word for it

 Savageconvoy wrote:
I started with Tau late 5th edition. Mostly just liked the flexibility of loading out suits with equipment for specific tasks and the generally high mobility.

 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:


And they are kinda a underdog race..always was a sucker for the little guy in a fight.

so thats why I "play" Tau.

Backfire wrote:
Hammerhead is real cool looking tank. That's really it.

 Bobthehero wrote:
Don't play them (yet? Maybe, maybe), but their shootiness and modern tactics always appealed me.

 Shadox wrote:
Firewarriors just look awesome and it's probably the army that fits my play style the most.

 Thranriel wrote:
First and foremost the models - The firewarriors are just beautiful in my mind.

 Dogface 76 wrote:
I was given a Firewarrior squad for a birthday back in the 3rd ed. and was hooked. The suits were always secondary to the Firewarrior appeal.

 -Loki- wrote:
their focus on ranged combat rather than melee made for an interesting army to fight, and the mix of the super sleek, but still utilitarian Tau aesthetic and the tribal, brutal Kroot made a very different looking army on the table.

 Orkimedes1000 wrote:
simple answer or hard answer? simple is Kroot.

In short, for me personally, I love Tau for the same reason I love CSM (especially with Daemons in the mix and multiple Gods). It's about building an army that utilizes synergy to beat the enemy, getting vastly different unit-types to cooperate in a way that makes them more powerful than the sum of their parts.

It's the ultimate non-spam army.

I doubt the authenticity of that video!

 93green wrote:
I just bought a whole heap of tau crisis battlesuits :(

Don't worry. The kits are not changing for the Crisis suits.

Hmmm... Right now, im happy to be european, that prices on dollars are brutal, but with some euro converting, you can take it more easily, even if we´re having a bad time around here :/

Prices are higher, but not prohibitively so. Can't wait!

Brother Captain Alexander wrote:Get ready to cry out loud:

"via The Astropate: News and Rumors
Codex: Tau Empire: $50.24
Tau Empire Battleforce: $130
Tau Empire XV8 Crisis Battlesuit Team (3): $75
Tau Empire Pathfinder Team (8): $35
Hammerhead: $57.96
Tau Empire Sun Shark Bomber/Razorshark Fighter: $65
Tau Empire XV104 Riptide Battlesuit: $85
Tau Empire XV88 Broadside Battlesuit: $50
Fireblade Cadre: $19.32
Crisis Suit commander: $42.51
Farsight: $50.24
Shi´vre (Finecast) $20.61
Sha´ng (Finecast): $16.75

Shi'vre is the Pathfinder SC, Darkstrider.
Sha'ng is the Tank Commander Longknife."

Well, Natfka is really bad at quoting (so anyone copying from faeit212 should be aware) . This time he himself didn't understand what he was quoting. Some people including me provided the Euro prices of all releases, tiberius183 from ATT just converted them to US-Dollars using current exchange rates (except from the few US-prices we know from the first wave of WD pics), an Italian blog copied it without quoting the source and Natfka copied it from there without checking what the website really said.

We all know that this is not how US GW prices are made and that a Codex will not cost $50.24. That's how rumours start, when rumour posters are careless and bad quoters.

hotsauceman1 wrote:Ant news on the commander and what he looks like?

Again, gnat yet

 Capamaru wrote:

 Zweischneid wrote:

 Capamaru wrote:
People that are overexcited about Tau are people that are fond of the mecha style army.

Wrong.

Well your answer for sure clarifies everything... You are much of a talkative person...

To answer in your sophisticated analysis style:
People that are overexcited about Tau are all damn communists of course

Hmm, Would it not be easier to calculate an idea of the cost from the current codexs for 6th? if we know the ratio between the codex from these cost and the the true price, we can get a much nicer estimate of the costs.

Edit: considering that the current daemons codex is $49.50, these estimates seem pretty close to spot on.

 Ledabot wrote:
Hmm, Would it not be easier to calculate an idea of the cost from the current codexs for 6th? if we know the ratio between the codex from these cost and the the true price, we can get a much nicer estimate of the costs.
Edit: considering that the current daemons codex is $49.50, these estimates seem pretty close to spot on.

1.) It is not presented as an estimate.
2.) The wrong source is attributed.
3.) Usually, those estimates are close, but as these are "political" prices not related to actual costs, GW sometimes changes them due to marketing considerations. See Canada and Australia as extreme examples.

I suspect the codex will be £30 in the UK, which argues for $45 or maybe $50 in the USA.

However, the Demons codex is over 100 pages. The current Tau codex is only 64pp, so GW will need to have done an awful lot of padding out to make it as big. There are only two new units and possibly three new characters compared to the last codex, which can't be more than four pages of content.

Tau might be a fairly small book, say 80pp, and carry a £25 price tag.

found this on TaoBao http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.w426647869.5.49HToT&scm=1007.170.0.0&id=19438495804&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=&pm_id=

Could it be the new Codex Cover? I reverse searched the image and found nothing.


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Also, this Which seems to be the contents of the battle force from a different angle.

Snufflesms wrote:
found this on TaoBao http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.w426647869.5.49HToT&scm=1007.170.0.0&id=19438495804&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=&pm_id=

Could it be the new Codex Cover? I reverse searched the image and found nothing.

I think it is, damn it looks epic.
The rumors about codex tells about battle suit firing it's weapon on some enemy, this looks about right.

As for the lower picture, it may very well be picture of Tau force from new codex.

Wow. Yeah, that has to be the codex cover. I've never seen it before and it is pretty much exactly what was described as the cover. Good find! And a very good cover as well!

That Crisis suit matches the design of new Broadside and Riptide suits.

There is hope for new suits yet! Come on wave 2!

Also that is absolutely awesome looking.

It would be intersting if they actually include a drone squad into the battleforce.
I personally think it would be cool to see them used on the battlefield
(maybe the speculations about drone troops are true? *hopes*)

I don't see how the crisis suit on the cover looks much different than the existing model... Just more detail and more curves I guess. Pretty awesome cover though.

There are about 10 changes from what I see from that angle. Head is lower into the torso, 3rd aerial out the back, right below the head that is a new piece, the symbol off the chest is new. The weapon on his right arms looks like a new weapon or modified fusion gun, the bottom of the jet pak has those 3 slits in it. A new crotch guard, a new piece on both legs at the bottom of the armor, and fingers are more pronounced. That's about all I see. Will it transfer to the model, we'll see.

 IPS wrote:
It would be intersting if they actually include a drone squad into the battleforce.
I personally think it would be cool to see them used on the battlefield
(maybe the speculations about drone troops are true? *hopes*)

If the existing drone squad counted as jetbikes, people might play them.

I think we could be in for a second wave crisis update. This one shares a few similarities with the new Farsight Model, like the hips, which seem further down, also the shared bolt/circle on the cod piece, seen more clearly here.
also larger picture.

Snufflesms wrote:
I think we could be in for a second wave crisis update. This one shares a few similarities with the new Farsight Model, like the hips, which seem further down, also the shared bolt/circle on the cod piece, seen more clearly here.

Spoiler:

The biggest hint to me is the high collar armor, which is a signature of the new tau sculpter.

 Rented Tritium wrote:

 IPS wrote:
It would be intersting if they actually include a drone squad into the battleforce.
I personally think it would be cool to see them used on the battlefield
(maybe the speculations about drone troops are true? *hopes*)

If the existing drone squad counted as jetbikes, people might play them.

Actually there is no drone squad. The original battleforce pic was deleted, but 6 drones come with the crisis suits, and 2 with the firewarriors, so that is just all the drones from the battleforce clumped together/

Snufflesms wrote:

 Rented Tritium wrote:

 IPS wrote:
It would be intersting if they actually include a drone squad into the battleforce.
I personally think it would be cool to see them used on the battlefield
(maybe the speculations about drone troops are true? *hopes*)

If the existing drone squad counted as jetbikes, people might play them.

Actually there is no drone squad. The original battleforce pic was deleted, but 6 drones come with the crisis suits, and 2 with the firewarriors, so that is just all the drones from the battleforce clumped together/

Read your codex again. It's in fast attack.

Snufflesms wrote:
found this on TaoBao http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.w426647869.5.49HToT&scm=1007.170.0.0&id=19438495804&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=&pm_id=

Could it be the new Codex Cover? I reverse searched the image and found nothing.


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Also, this Which seems to be the contents of the battle force from a different angle.

That artwork is amazing. If it is the Codex art, it's the best cover art by far.

Also, I hope that all of those units will be good in the new ruleset... that Battleforce is too good for value when compared to the other stuff.

Cover looks great.
Honestly though, it's no more different to the current suits than the current codex cover is.

Also, I don't like the new barefoot Tau look. Someone must have decided to emphasise that Tau are aliens and have hooves... but why the frack would you go to battle clad head to *ankle* in body armour?

Ill definitely be getting a Riptide for my mecha collection. Price is about what was expected. Should be all over Ebay for $65-ish with free shipping.

 Rented Tritium wrote:

 IPS wrote:
It would be intersting if they actually include a drone squad into the battleforce.
I personally think it would be cool to see them used on the battlefield
(maybe the speculations about drone troops are true? *hopes*)

If the existing drone squad counted as jetbikes, people might play them.

But then they'd lose the move in assault phase.(Drones aren't eldar, after all.)

Drones would be worth taking if the pulse carbine was improved and the Leadership penalty went away.

Right now the only purpose for gun drones is to improve squad initiative when rolling against Sweeping Advance.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I suspect the codex will be £30 in the UK, which argues for $45 or maybe $50 in the USA.

However, the Demons codex is over 100 pages. The current Tau codex is only 64pp, so GW will need to have done an awful lot of padding out to make it as big. There are only two new units and possibly three new characters compared to the last codex, which can't be more than four pages of content.

Tau might be a fairly small book, say 80pp, and carry a £25 price tag.

Its more likely that they will sell you some BS as to why its a new style premium book, and you should fork over the same price for less content.