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 gr1m_dan wrote:
The reflector shield thing seems a bit pointless - d6 S4 hits? Hmm...I guess it is a last ditch attempt at stopping the inevitable but hey ho.

I disagree, I mean, I'm being a bit presumptuous, but I think you could use it well, have some crisis suits with the reflector field, and flamers, and if possible attach a Crisis Commander with Vectored Retro Thrusters to give the squad hit and run, and use them as a rapid response team who follow the enemy's assault threats to make their initial charge as painful as possible only to jump away and leave them exposed.

 Drunkspleen wrote:

 gr1m_dan wrote:
The reflector shield thing seems a bit pointless - d6 S4 hits? Hmm...I guess it is a last ditch attempt at stopping the inevitable but hey ho.

I disagree, I mean, I'm being a bit presumptuous, but I think you could use it well, have some crisis suits with the reflector field, and flamers, and if possible attach a Crisis Commander with Vectored Retro Thrusters to give the squad hit and run, and use them as a rapid response team who follow the enemy's assault threats to make their initial charge as painful as possible only to jump away and leave them exposed.

Exactly!!!!!! They have some potential for sure. Also in the BatRep they dont use any Ion weaponry.....so how many other little goodies did he not field in this list? Shadowsun, Longstrike, and a riptide cant be cheap pointswise.


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Oh plus the multiple overwatch and stealths BS2 overwatch are pretty sweet. I wonder what the distance from "squad being assaulted" to the squad using supporting fire has to be? 6"? 12"? maybe 18"(in my dreams)?

Wolfnid420 wrote:

 Drunkspleen wrote:

 gr1m_dan wrote:
The reflector shield thing seems a bit pointless - d6 S4 hits? Hmm...I guess it is a last ditch attempt at stopping the inevitable but hey ho.

I disagree, I mean, I'm being a bit presumptuous, but I think you could use it well, have some crisis suits with the reflector field, and flamers, and if possible attach a Crisis Commander with Vectored Retro Thrusters to give the squad hit and run, and use them as a rapid response team who follow the enemy's assault threats to make their initial charge as painful as possible only to jump away and leave them exposed.

Exactly!!!!!! They have some potential for sure. Also in the BatRep they dont use any Ion weaponry.....so how many other little goodies did he not field in this list? Shadowsun, Longstrike, and a riptide cant be cheap pointswise.


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Oh plus the multiple overwatch and stealths BS2 overwatch are pretty sweet. I wonder what the distance from "squad being assaulted" to the squad using supporting fire has to be? 6"? 12"? maybe 18"(in my dreams)?

Pretty sure the WD said 6".

 MajorStoffer wrote:
I don't buy the Hammerhead/Skyray kit being 60, when the Leman Russ already includes the bits for three/four variants, depending on which box you get, and is $50

The difference of course is that, the Leman Russ variants only change one very small feature on the tank the weapon barrel in the turret, the Skyray has a whole new turret including those big wings, don't get me wrong I'm not saying I like the new price point for it, but I can see why a Leman Russ's variant options aren't comparable to the Skyray sprue.

Riptide has 2+ armor standard. Stealths have stealth and shrouded still. And ALL battlesuits come equipped with BSF and multi-trackers. Basing this on a pic of a spread from the codex.

This may be somewhere in the thread, but I haven't seen it yet, picked up the new WD today and I am going back to my roots it seems, my first army 3 years ago was Tau and I sold them to build some Space Marines, with the new stuff I would like to try them out again.

So, my question is... does anyone know what color is being used for the Farsight Enclave suits and FW?

 Brokksamson wrote:
This may be somewhere in the thread, but I haven't seen it yet, picked up the new WD today and I am going back to my roots it seems, my first army 3 years ago was Tau and I sold them to build some Space Marines, with the new stuff I would like to try them out again.

So, my question is... does anyone know what color is being used for the Farsight Enclave suits and FW?

Red. Same as it's always been.

You know the tyranid player didnt try very hard when he was building his list i feel. Shouldnt a tyranid player vastly outnumber the Tau? I mean come on lol

hahahha, well I know it's red, sorry I should have clarified... does anyone know what the Citadel color is?

He did have 7 troops choice, one that could make more. All of them could also return to the board if they died. And he didn't need any scoring units as his whole mission was to kill the tau army.

 Brokksamson wrote:
hahahha, well I know it's red, sorry I should have clarified... does anyone know what the Citadel color is?

i am sure gw will sell a booklet on istore called " how to paint farsight conclave " just for 29.99$ in just a few weeks.

 Brokksamson wrote:
hahahha, well I know it's red, sorry I should have clarified... does anyone know what the Citadel color is?

The armour in the Farsight pic looks a deeper red than Blood Angels, so perhaps a basecoat of Khorne Red was used. However, it could be Mephiston Red with shading and just edge highlighting.

My friend tells me a standard rule is that FW can over watch at BS 2.

 Flashman wrote:

 Dakkadood wrote:
I'm so anxious to know what Farsight does this time around, love the character and may start a new army (sold my Orky guard a few years ago), and would love to do renegade/survivor Tau + Kroot Hybrids with Farsight or so.

In the previous Codexes, Farsight didn't have access to Kroot or Vespid as he is not part of the Empire. Regardless, he is indeed a great direction for a Tau army. I wonder if he'll be prohibited from using Ork allies as they have been his main foe.

Yes I know he forced some serious limitations, but I was thinking of working around them via an allied Force (more Tau!), but I can always run Ork (new codex soon too) and use Kroot-Ork conversions for extra fluffyness (Hybrid Krootorks).

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
My friend tells me a standard rule is that FW can over watch at BS 2.

Maybe they have access to the same upgrade the stealth suits used in the batrep -- counterfire defense systems

 Dakkadood wrote:
Yes I know he forced some serious limitations, but I was thinking of working around them via an allied Force (more Tau!), but I can always run Ork (new codex soon too) and use Kroot-Ork conversions for extra fluffyness (Hybrid Krootorks).

So wait, your solution to "Farsight traditionally hasn't fought with Kroot" is to ally Farsight with Orks? And you use the word fluffy to in any way describe that?

@Drunkspleen

Very good points about the Crisis with Flamers / Hit and Run. I didn't think about using other wargear/weapons in conjunction. the D6 S4 hits could be very useful against armies with poor armour saves (5/6+) who feel like assaulting us.

In regards to Pathfinders being a 5+ save - If you aren't fielding them in some sort of 4+ cover (i.e a building if at hand) then you shouldn't have them on the board!! Maybe they have Stealth or access to some sort of drone to grant a better save? Maybe it is still worth taking a Devilfish? Either way I am very excited about these fellas :-D Always loved Pathfinders

Hey so um...Anyone else notice that the Army pics never include more than 2 Broadsides on the board. Or the line in the WD where it says IIRC "Two of these make a great backbone to any Tau army." Could they be SOLO units? Are Broadside teams out and these in as like a dreadnought single Heavy FOC slot choice? Almost makes sense considering their new size and all that. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. What do you think?

I think there would be ALOT of anger from that.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I think there would be ALOT of anger from that.

I will have a lot of anger if a 50 dollar model doesn't have the same damage output as a 40 dollar annihilation barge.

There's a team of two in the WD BR.

I would like to point out that in this image of the WD battleforce there is a squad of XV15s and no XV25s. This definitely suggests that they are in the codex, if not confirms. The question is where?

It would be pretty boss if those where troops.

Stealth Suits are Stealth Suits.

At least that's how the previous Codex did it.

And they are listed as elites in the battle report.

With all the new riptides competing with crisis slots and stealth teams, unless we get a special rule allowing us to have more than 3 elite choices we won't see stealth suits used very often i predict.

Then again they could be dirt-cheap and have great cover saves, so maybe i'm wrong.

i read somewhere that they said people wanted smaller stealth suits and thats why they went back to the old ones, which is ironic, because people complained the original model was too small for a battle suit! Its ok, because i have a ton of old and new suits, now i can use that to differentiate squads

 Kanluwen wrote:
Stealth Suits are Stealth Suits.

At least that's how the previous Codex did it.

No, XV25s were the Stealth suits of last codex Tau. XV15s weren't in it.

 mh_mini wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Stealth Suits are Stealth Suits.

At least that's how the previous Codex did it.

No, XV25s were the Stealth suits of last codex Tau. XV15s weren't in it.

Check again -- XV15's were mentioned alongside the newer XV25 suits.

Looked around quite a bit, does anyone know the profile of the ML that replace the Broadside railguns?

 Lobukia wrote:
Looked around quite a bit, does anyone know the profile of the ML that replace the Broadside railguns?

No, i don't know.

Going by what i've read in the WD, and rumors from warseer, I *think* it is a high yield missile pod system. S7 AP4, 4 shots, twin-linked. Most likely 36 or 48" range.