New Tau Codex - April 6'th [Pics, Video and Prices in OP]

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**Just Dave**

Rented Tritium wrote:
I can confirm that there is a photo floating around from either the codex or WD that shows 2 hammerheads, 1 skyray and some broadsides on the same table.

Take from this whatever you will.

GW using the double FOC, as per their rulebook?

**Rented Tritium**

Just Dave wrote:
Rented Tritium wrote:
I can confirm that there is a photo floating around from either the codex or WD that shows 2 hammerheads, 1 skyray and some broadsides on the same table.

Take from this whatever you will.

GW using the double FOC, as per their rulebook?

That's what I think it was, but some people ITT were arguing about whether or not that photo even existed in the first place.

**2001SpaceOdyssey**

Just wanted to add these to the thread since I haven't seen them here yet. Grain of salt of course given the day.

russ29 on Advanced Tau Tactica (Incoming CHAOS SLAVES release discussion {with pics from WD} Pg. 52)
Alright then, let's see if I can recall the stuff I glimpsed through. The firewarrior pointage is correct regarding rumors. Devilfish has no change to its base cost. Hammerhead's base cost is slightly more than four stealthteam members. Shadowsun is much cheaper in points now, and if I do remember correctly, Aun'shi is more expensive in points than Aun'Va.

About the warlord traits. There is one which allows the commander and his retinue to move 3d6 during assault phase. Another to deep strike without scatter. And the one I think is the most awesome is one that allows those units that gone to ground to move, shoot, and assault as though it did not go to ground. I can't remember the other three, but so far this is all I can vaguely remember.

I already preordered my 'dex, and I really can't wait to read it carefully next time!

russ29 on Advanced Tau Tactica (Same Page)
Didn't notice the gears, just looked at the points because I was wondering if my army would still be viable or not. Oh, and one more warlord trait I remembered. Warlord ignores look out sir rolls. Can't confirm if its retinue or not though.

Summary:
Warlord Table
-- Commander and Retinue Jet Pack 3D6 in Assault.
-- Commander and Retinue Deep Strike without Scatter.
-- Units that GtG can still function in next turn. (Bubble effect most likely)
-- Warlord ignored Look Out Sir! rolls.

Devilfish cost unchanged,
Fire Warriors cost 9.
Hammerhead without Longstrike is 120+

**Samurai_Eduh**

I can't imagine that Devilfish points costs wouldn't have gone down. That's just crazy.

**davou**

Devilfish cost unchanged and Dpod nerfed is disgusting.

**Veskrashen**

davou wrote:
Devilfish cost unchanged and Dpod nerfed is disgusting.

Yeah, that's really going to suck. Even if DPods and Multitrackers are standard, and even if vehicle mounted burst cannons are 36" S6 AP4, that's still not worth 80pts. Especially since things like Chimeras (similar AV, similar capacity, similar armament) are less expensive. Has to be a "skimmer tax" of some kind.

**Jayden63**

davou wrote:
Devilfish cost unchanged and Dpod nerfed is disgusting.

The devilfish in its old configuration was 25 points too expensive. If it has gained 25ish points in stuff, then maybe it will be ok. If it comes with built in stuff like dark sun filters, the new multi-tracker etc. Heck, we don't even know if the armor stays the same, maybe it will now have 12s all around. Its just too little to know at this point. So many possibilities (in both directions).

**Puscifer**

Jayden63 wrote:
davou wrote:
Devilfish cost unchanged and Dpod nerfed is disgusting.

The devilfish in its old configuration was 25 points too expensive. If it has gained 25ish points in stuff, then maybe it will be ok. If it comes with built in stuff like dark sun filters, the new multi-tracker etc. Heck, we don't even know if the armor stays the same, maybe it will now have 12s all around. Its just too little to know at this point. So many possibilities (in both directions).

You have beat me to it.

That is near enough word for word what I typed before I hit send.

I will not suffer the witch to live

**Rented Tritium**

I could definitely see a version of the devilfish that is worth the current cost. It would need to have some good perks, but it's close enough to optimal price that it wouldn't take HUGE buffs for this to be the case.

I think it's smart for GW to shy away from tanks with super low base cost. There should be more mandatory tank upgrades to prevent absurd spam.

**Lysenis**

The Dude wrote:Im told Enforcer Armour is nothing special rules-wise, but that's not 100%.

Also, Ethereals buff units within 12" with one of 4 effects, one for each caste/element:

Fire= extra shot with pulse weapons (This looks to stack with Fireblade's Volley Fire for 4 shots per Fire Warrior)

Earth= 6+ Feel No Pain

Air= unit may run then snapshot with their weapons.

Water= source couldn't remember.

Aun 'Va may apparently issue two of these buffs per turn.

Ok so if this is true then I can actually see an whole army with Ethereals, Fireblades (if you can get more then one per FoC), 72 Firewarriors, Some Suits (not the Riptide, it is likely to be too expensive for this build), Broadsides, and maybe a few fliers.

**Puscifer**

I still want to know why most of the Hammerhead models in WD400 have two SMS and a Burst Cannon.

It would be awesome if they could have 3 Burst Cannon or if the rumour I heard is correct, 3 Heavy Burst Cannon.

**airmang**

Puscifer wrote:
I still want to know why most of the Hammerhead models in WD400 have two SMS and a Burst Cannon.

It would be awesome if they could have 3 Burst Cannon or if the rumour I heard is correct, 3 Heavy Burst Cannon.

It looks like it was just modeled that way and not used that way. In the army list it just has the SMS.

**Prodigalson**

Also, remember that they may have changed the stats of the burst cannons on the vehicles vs. the ones on the suits. For instance, what if burst cannons stayed the same, but the ones on the vehicles were heavy burst cannons and were say... Heavy 4, Str 6 ap 4 and 36 inch range? Also, what if the pulse carbine is 2 shots for each drone? It would go from 5 shots on the vehicle, to 8 shots on it. Let's let the rules come out before we get all doom and gloom.

**Brother Captain Alexander**

Strange that there are no April fools jokes for Tau Release...

**Puscifer**

Prodigalson wrote:
Also, remember that they may have changed the stats of the burst cannons on the vehicles vs. the ones on the suits. For instance, what if burst cannons stayed the same, but the ones on the vehicles were heavy burst cannons and were say... Heavy 4, Str 6 ap 4 and 36 inch range?

That's similar to what I have been told, but with Rending.

**MechaBeast**

airmang wrote:
Puscifer wrote:
I still want to know why most of the Hammerhead models in WD400 have two SMS and a Burst Cannon.

It would be awesome if they could have 3 Burst Cannon or if the rumour I heard is correct, 3 Heavy Burst Cannon.

It looks like it was just modeled that way and not used that way. In the army list it just has the SMS.

Wasn't there something about Hammerheads losing their auto target array?

Maybe now you can take 3 secondary weapons because of that.

**Rented Tritium**

They might have just modeled them with a burst cannon in the middle to allow it to switch between hammerhead and devilfish easily.

**hotsauceman1**

If all Ion weapons can overcharge then i see the Ionhead returning.

**Lysenis**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
If all Ion weapons can overcharge then i see the Ionhead returning.

I have a feeling that if the overcharge fails that the HH will lose a hull point. . . no source for this but it just feels like something GW would do.

**Puscifer**

MechaBeast wrote:
airmang wrote:
Puscifer wrote:
I still want to know why most of the Hammerhead models in WD400 have two SMS and a Burst Cannon.

It would be awesome if they could have 3 Burst Cannon or if the rumour I heard is correct, 3 Heavy Burst Cannon.

It looks like it was just modeled that way and not used that way. In the army list it just has the SMS.

Wasn't there something about Hammerheads losing their auto target array?

Maybe now you can take 3 secondary weapons because of that.

Yeah I heard about that one.

BS 3 across the board except Commanders and Fireblades.

**hotsauceman1**

How does Overchrge works?

**Lobokai**

Anymore on the pulse rifle range. Anyone confirm it one way or another.

**Lysenis**

Puscifer wrote:
MechaBeast wrote:
airmang wrote:
Puscifer wrote:
I still want to know why most of the Hammerhead models in WD400 have two SMS and a Burst Cannon.

It would be awesome if they could have 3 Burst Cannon or if the rumour I heard is correct, 3 Heavy Burst Cannon.

It looks like it was just modeled that way and not used that way. In the army list it just has the SMS.

Wasn't there something about Hammerheads losing their auto target array?

Maybe now you can take 3 secondary weapons because of that.

Yeah I heard about that one.

BS 3 across the board except Commanders and Fireblades.

HEY! That sounds like the Tyranids! maybe the suites will jump 20+ points for no know reason now that we can buy them in packs of 3!

**airmang**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
How does Overchrge works?

I believe the rumour was that it just gave them the "Get's Hot" rule.

**hotsauceman1**

So a roll of one?
Not that big of a deal.

**Tauownz**

Can't confirm it but I'd imagine it's still 30" range for pulse rifles. Nothing hinted at 24" in the magazine or any rumor we have ever read. The douche that wrote different was joking. I'm thinking overcharge will be like a 3+ it works kind of thing. 1or 2 you fail and take a hull point or a saveable wound. Anyone hear what the ion rifle the pathfinders carry can do? Range ap, etc?

**Wolfnid420**

My understanding of Ion overcharge(based on WD BR) is that it adds 2 or 3 to the strength of the weapon(seeing as how we dont know the basic S of the ion rifle and when overcharged it is S8 and i doubt the ion rifle would be S4.....) but if it fails the gun is in operable for that turn. However it doesnt look like any harm comes to the user from it.

Also, what i would like to be able to field(though i know it wont happen) is an all fusion gun stealthsuit team. that would make for a dangerous unit. Though it would be expensive i love stealthsuits and could easily sink the points into this unit lol

**Ravenous D**

Veskrashen wrote:
davou wrote:
Devilfish cost unchanged and Dpod nerfed is disgusting.

Yeah, that's really going to suck. Even if DPods and Multitrackers are standard, and even if vehicle mounted burst cannons are 36" S6 AP4, that's still not worth 80pts. Especially since things like Chimeras (similar AV, similar capacity, similar armament) are less expensive. Has to be a "skimmer tax" of some kind.

Cant have them competing with marines now can we? Skimmers have been getting the shaft since 3rd.

**Materia_Master**

Tauownz wrote:
Can't confirm it but I'd imagine it's still 30" range for pulse rifles. Nothing hinted at 24" in the magazine or any rumor we have ever read. The douche that wrote different was joking. I'm thinking overcharge will be like a 3+ it works kind of thing. 1or 2 you fail and take a hull point or a saveable wound. Anyone hear what the ion rifle the pathfinders carry can do? Range ap, etc?

that guy, he almost ruined my day. Shame on me for almost beleiving him though.

Also, from what rumors I had collected from the vaious sites, the overcharge for the riptide's reactor was a failure on a 1-2, succeed on a 3+. Not sure if that's what you're talking about.

if your not talking about the reactor and just talking about Ion weaponry's overcharge, I'm guessing you're right, but I have nothing to back it up other than a gut feeling.

Man this week is torture. So many things I want to buy, but I'm not dropping any cash without reading the codex first. I want to know what units I want to buy to reinforce my army, and what units will complement it... AAaaaerrrgggh... saturday won't come soon enough!

**Anbutou**

So the rumor is that the railguns are tiered, and the hammerhead has access to the good one, but it loses it's bs4, which means you'd see even less railgun effectiveness on hammerheads? That's just... wow. I guess it's missile spam XV-88 time.