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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 10:50:40
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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Hey guys, thought this would make an interesting conversation... what unit in WH40K is in your opinion the most powerful and just as important why. This can be anything from an independent character to a battle tank. Here is my opinion:
CODEX: chaos daemons
UNIT: Skarbrand
REASON: he has initiative 10 and charges with 9 attacks with Ws10 so average say 7 hits, fleshbane so wounds on 2+ giving you 6 wounds that ignore armor and inflict instant death... meaning even a character with a 2+ invulnerable save will still die before he gets a chance to strike back... as far as I know this guy will win any challenge.... and when it comes to striking a squad you are still looking at a gakload of dead anything! All for only 225pts... that being said I think his real power is the power to influence your opponents movement. Wherever he is you can safely say your opponent will move away and wont invest much... or even better they will and he will draw all of the enemy fire off the rest of your army.. his only weakness is tar pits and the fact he is slow as hell....
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What unit do you see as insanely powerful?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 11:20:43
Subject: Re:What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Grey Hunters. They're a Troops choice that's above average at everything except objective camping. Having nice powerhouses is good, having nice Troops is game-winning.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 11:57:55
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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The Ork Boy.
T4, WS4, S4, great gun/number of attacks, fearless, easy to get a cover save with, and 11 points cheaper than a space marine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 12:02:31
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Sniping Hexa
Dublin
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Vedentta
cheap
fast
resilient
alpha strike
heavy firepower
transport cheap scoring / hurtful units
can be spammed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 12:38:10
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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A skillful player is by far the most powerful unit in the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 12:40:15
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Juggalo17 wrote:Hey guys, thought this would make an interesting conversation... what unit in WH40K is in your opinion the most powerful and just as important why. This can be anything from an independent character to a battle tank. Here is my opinion: CODEX: chaos daemons UNIT: Skarbrand REASON: he has initiative 10 and charges with 9 attacks with Ws10 so average say 7 hits, fleshbane so wounds on 2+ giving you 6 wounds that ignore armor and inflict instant death... meaning even a character with a 2+ invulnerable save will still die before he gets a chance to strike back... as far as I know this guy will win any challenge.... and when it comes to striking a squad you are still looking at a gakload of dead anything! All for only 225pts... that being said I think his real power is the power to influence your opponents movement. Wherever he is you can safely say your opponent will move away and wont invest much... or even better they will and he will draw all of the enemy fire off the rest of your army.. his only weakness is tar pits and the fact he is slow as hell.... . What unit do you see as insanely powerful? Does he have grenades? Is he an Independent Character or Monstrous Creature? If the answers are NO and MC, then he can be beaten a number of ways. Primarily shooting and hiding in cover.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 12:50:03
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
In a hole in New Zealand with internet access
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JWhex wrote:A skillful player is by far the most powerful unit in the game.
This!
This topic does smell quite combustible. Don't light a match around here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 12:52:56
Subject: Re:What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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A grot
cause when you least expect it, your super bad character will roll a 1..and it will usually be a grot that kills him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 13:02:42
Subject: Re:What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Soo'Vah'Cha wrote: A grot cause when you least expect it, your super bad character will roll a 1..and it will usually be a grot that kills him. And there is nothing funnier (even as a Tyranid player) than watching a Carnifex get taken out by a group of grots in CC. He won that game, even if I had 3x as many VPs.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 13:12:49
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
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Fire dragon. 16 point melta gun with all around good stats. Hunts infantry as well as tanks or MCs. If only the delivery system for them was either costed appropriately or they had access to venoms.
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"Ask not the Eldar a question, for they will give you three answers, all of which are true and terrifying to know."
-Inquisitor Czevak
~14k
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 13:32:13
Subject: Re:What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Cowboy Wannabe
London
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The Tervigon.
A six wound MC that buffs your troops, provides more of them, and is a troops choice. Just amazing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 13:42:58
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Dakka Veteran
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the Helldrake is the best unit in the game right now. for 170 points you get between 2-4 S7 ap3 ignore cover auto hits, the baleflamer wounds T4 on 2s with ap 3 and no cover. you have a 5++, 3 HP and can regenerate HP, and you can mitigate bad dice once a game with the daemonic rule.
Heldrake has it all. It will kill a MEQ squad a turn, it's very tough with needing 6s to hit it, AV12, 3 HP and 5++, and it's extremely mobile and is not vunverable to being out manuvered thanks to the 360 arc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 14:03:42
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Places
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The imperial Guard ,
Infantry Platoon , Can bring More firepower then a small army , as it is one choice troop choice on the force org chart ... Automatically Appended Next Post: Pony_law wrote:the Helldrake is the best unit in the game right now. for 170 points you get between 2-4 S7 ap3 ignore cover auto hits, the baleflamer wounds T4 on 2s with ap 3 and no cover. you have a 5++, 3 HP and can regenerate HP, and you can mitigate bad dice once a game with the daemonic rule.
Heldrake has it all. It will kill a MEQ squad a turn, it's very tough with needing 6s to hit it, AV12, 3 HP and 5++, and it's extremely mobile and is not vunverable to being out manuvered thanks to the 360 arc.
Until a Vendetta Shoots it down
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Motto of the Imperial Guard " If its worth bringing one its worth bringing three"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 14:10:10
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
Where people Live Free, or Die
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The humble Necron Warrior. 13 points for a basic infantry model that can glance any vehicle in the game.
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Menaphite Dynasty Necrons - 6000
Karak Hirn Dwarfs - 2500
How many lawyers does it take to change a light bulb?
-- Fifty-Four -- Eight to argue, one to get a continuance, one to object, one to demur, two to research precedents, one to dictate a letter, one to stipulate, five to turn in their time cards, one to depose, one to write interrogatories, two to settle, one to order a secretary to change the bulb, and twenty eight to bill for professional services.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 15:12:25
Subject: Re:What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Incubus
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There isnt a best unit in the game, but if there was, the crisis suit would take the money.
Can be configured for antihorde, anti mech, anti meq, anti teq, and all come with 2 wounds, can deepstrike, and are jet infantry.
Now, with the the 2 wounds and being jet pack infantry, it pretty much takes away all first strike ability against it, especially considering the rest of your army is tau.
That helldrake? it will not kill any of them, and if you have shield drones, only 1.5 of them will take a wound, oh wait, none of them, the shield drone actually gets killed instead.
Now lets say they are all deathrains. That is 177 points. You will average 2 hits on that helldrake, 1 pen, and .66 after jink. People usually have 2 or 3 squads of these things, and they have a better range than your helldrakes. Concentrated fire beats them point for point everywhere except a vacuum 3 v 3
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Quote from chromedog
and 40k was like McDonalds - you could get it anywhere - it wouldn't necessarily satisfy, but it was probably better than nothing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 15:49:25
Subject: Re:What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Blood Angel Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Any form of Terminators make for a mean opponent. Access to alot of weapons, 2+ armour save, deep strike. They can be deadly in the right hands, meaning vanilla players will struggle making them work. (I'm only kidding fanboy's, I love you really)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 15:52:13
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
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CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!!!
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"Your friends can't save you now, they are hanging from the spires, just as you will be, should you fail."- kabal of the broken blade. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 15:56:54
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It doesn't have the Assault Vehicle rule, so I find the name to be a misnomer.
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 16:24:23
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If I had to pick one, I would say TH/SS terminators.
But, it's like trying to figure out if rock, paper, or scissor's is stronger in that game. The answer is, depends who they are up against.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 16:28:00
Subject: Re:What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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30x Death Company with Jump Packs, double thunder hammers and an attached Reclusiarch, plus Lemartes.
...I thought we'd been over this many times now?
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"Hard pressed on my right. My centre is yielding. Impossible to manoeuvre. Situation excellent. I am attacking." - General Ferdinand Foch |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 18:07:49
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Dr. What wrote:The Ork Boy.
T4, WS4, S4, great gun/number of attacks, fearless, easy to get a cover save with, and 11 points cheaper than a space marine.
There S3 but S4 on charge
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2k and counting
Soon my freinds, soon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/02 22:44:25
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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I don't know about most powerful but I hate Eldrad. On the board or not he messes up all my GK and Nid powers. Has great powers letting him reroll everything. Has an good Inv save. I would say he is well worth his points.
Coteaz is another that is way under cost for his points.
The Tervigon is another. Jang is right.
The Doom and Marbo are two other really awesome for the points.
I think the Cryptek w/ a Chronoton is another. 1 re-roll a phase. I flubbed a run roll to win the game on the last turn to move to the objective. Oh No I didn't re-roll!!! That reroll won me the game. Saved my lord 4 times from insta death rail guns that same game. Even if he woulda died it would have had a really good chance of bringing him back!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/03 03:45:43
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Strangely Beautiful Daemonette of Slaanesh
where the wind comes sweeping down the plains
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Eldrad and 10 warlocks with singing spears
Within 2' of course Automatically Appended Next Post: Super Ready wrote:30x Death Company with Jump Packs, double thunder hammers and an attached Reclusiarch, plus Lemartes.
...I thought we'd been over this many times now?
Yeah, I have that...and it's 2000 points of terror
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/03 04:02:34
Subject: Re:What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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Imperator Titan, because you win the game.
Oh wait, you mean points efficient unit in the game?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/03 05:06:24
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Wing Commander
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Yes brother, let its name sound down from the heavens upon the unworthy masses.
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Therefore, I conclude, Valve should announce Half Life 2: Episode 3.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/03 05:15:30
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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The NEcron deathray is pretty damn destructive.... Automatically Appended Next Post: Doomscythe is what i meant i think
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Tyranids will consume the universe!!! There is no chance for survival!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/03 05:29:37
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Terrifying Treeman
The Fallen Realm of Umbar
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Marbo, cause Marbo
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Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/03 12:07:53
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Dark Angels Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Some people brought up squads nd for that I'm going with stearn guard. But individual model scout marine with missle launcher and camo cloak inside some ruins.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/03 12:45:23
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Strangely Beautiful Daemonette of Slaanesh
where the wind comes sweeping down the plains
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Juggalo17 wrote:Hey guys, thought this would make an interesting conversation... what unit in WH40K is in your opinion the most powerful and just as important why. This can be anything from an independent character to a battle tank. Here is my opinion:
CODEX: chaos daemons
UNIT: Skarbrand
REASON: he has initiative 10 and charges with 9 attacks with Ws10 so average say 7 hits, fleshbane so wounds on 2+ giving you 6 wounds that ignore armor and inflict instant death... meaning even a character with a 2+ invulnerable save will still die before he gets a chance to strike back... as far as I know this guy will win any challenge.... and when it comes to striking a squad you are still looking at a gakload of dead anything! All for only 225pts... that being said I think his real power is the power to influence your opponents movement. Wherever he is you can safely say your opponent will move away and wont invest much... or even better they will and he will draw all of the enemy fire off the rest of your army.. his only weakness is tar pits and the fact he is slow as hell....
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What unit do you see as insanely powerful?
I think Lucius can beat him in a challenge...have to run the statistics, though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/04/03 12:48:48
Subject: What is the most powerful unit in your opinion and why?
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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karandras15 wrote:Juggalo17 wrote:Hey guys, thought this would make an interesting conversation... what unit in WH40K is in your opinion the most powerful and just as important why. This can be anything from an independent character to a battle tank. Here is my opinion:
CODEX: chaos daemons
UNIT: Skarbrand
REASON: he has initiative 10 and charges with 9 attacks with Ws10 so average say 7 hits, fleshbane so wounds on 2+ giving you 6 wounds that ignore armor and inflict instant death... meaning even a character with a 2+ invulnerable save will still die before he gets a chance to strike back... as far as I know this guy will win any challenge.... and when it comes to striking a squad you are still looking at a gakload of dead anything! All for only 225pts... that being said I think his real power is the power to influence your opponents movement. Wherever he is you can safely say your opponent will move away and wont invest much... or even better they will and he will draw all of the enemy fire off the rest of your army.. his only weakness is tar pits and the fact he is slow as hell....
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What unit do you see as insanely powerful?
I think Lucius can beat him in a challenge...have to run the statistics, though
The non- EW guy who will be fighting a T6 MC? Yeah, good luck with that...
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