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although I'd still worry about something getting caught under an overhanging board sending the whole lot flying as people stand up/walk around it

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
although I'd still worry about something getting caught under an overhanging board sending the whole lot flying as people stand up/walk around it

Yeah, I was considering that as I was wondering about my final pledge amount. The felt rolling trays are really nice and I imagine will be very handy rather than bouncing everywhere on ABS.

GamesNGears wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:
Looks closer to 50 in that pic.

Not entirely sure what they mean by 'attach to any side', are these strong enough to hang off the table when filled with models?

A little off, the number is a bit higher! ;P.

No stress on flat surface! If no surface underneath as future demonstrations will show it's fine. No other battle board we know of (possibly ROB) can hold well if both ends of the battle board our 12" outside a table surface, Ours can. The Games & Gears Gaming Trays has the same tech. The Games & Gears gaming trays can be attached or glued to either side, whichever you are happy with and makes most sense to you. If you have a space issue you can attach and detached them, if you are fortunate to have enough ample space to game at home you can have them glued on as just another option.

On the model count. If you play warhammer you can have 5 ranks of normal infantry deep no problem. We have not tried is but we think you can fit 100 (80 for sure!) Warhammer infantry models.

So on a 6 by 4 we know you can fit 180 Warhammer Infantry miniatures (3 Games & Gears Gaming Trays) , will check to see if you can do 200 . However we think the main purpose of the Games & Gears Gaming trays will be for your gaming accessories.

Best quote I could find with regard to overhang tolerance.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.639408112748388.1073741855.475726182449916&type=3

Here is some pics

The 5th DZC board has been revealed!

Here it is for those who can view facebook images. I don't think the board would have quite the same shading as the below, though (all the previous DzC boards have just been grey, black, and white). This just looks like a composite image of 4 of the card DzC tiles that Hawk Wargames makes.

Have to admit this isn't my favorite, though... that circular feature in the lower left is one that we rarely use with the card tiles, as it's hard to make it look natural in a cityscape. I would personally prefer something else to go in the lower left quadrant, that would be more useful.

Whelp, I was one of the early birds, then dropped, then came back. My dining table is only around 3 x 5, so being able to make a nicely thematic 4 x 4 at will for Robotech games holds some appeal. A 6mm scale would be awesome, but I was leaning towards a DZC pack anyway, so basically I end up with the same effect.

Speaking of which, has there been any chatter about what makes the Buildings add on unique? New buildings? More of them? The DZC pack contains (off hand) 20 buildings, and this seems to have about the same, at the same cost, and if that's the case I might as well snag said pack from a local store, which would give me the buildings and the terrain tiles, which I could use to expand the 6x4 board, or just alter the playing surface a bit.

And finally, since I need to get this off my chest; I'm so glad I can Games and Gears(tm) join this Games and Gears(tm) Battle Games and Gears(tm) Board Games and Gears(tm) KiGames and Gears(tm)ckGames and Gears(tm)staGames and Gears(tm)rteGames and Gears(tm)r. Truly it is the most Games and Gears(tm) to ever grace the Games and Gears(tm) in the wide Games and Gears(tm) internet.

:-P

I realize that this would be a departure from the cityscape set but the only complaint I have with the DZC layout is the complete lack of curved streets. I'm not sure if anyone else feels this way but a simple tile with a curve (and not an intersection) would be much appreciated. I don't know if there is a way to incorporate that into a tile without screwing up the total flow of the roads on the other tiles though.

LoL,

Close to Unlocking Level three. Thank you again

@Warboss, The road designs are specific to the DZC world.

G&G Crew member (tm) (couldn't resist!!)

Thanks for the quick reply in any case.

Looks like we'll have the answer everyone has been waiting for soon

Games & Gears wrote:MINI UPDATE:
Ok we have a firm time frame for 28mm Hawk Wargames Urban Battle Field will be revealed 1st four initial designs based on the 10mm scale version on the 14.11.2013 3pm GMT UK time. It is pretty much all done, we need to do one last verification and then we can hit the publish button! Thank you for your patience and awesome support!

 RiTides wrote:

Have to admit this isn't my favorite, though... that circular feature in the lower left is one that we rarely use with the card tiles, as it's hard to make it look natural in a cityscape. I would personally prefer something else to go in the lower left quadrant, that would be more useful.

Looks to be a plaza, which could work well with some small kiosk-type buildings, a stage, maybe some jersey barriers, etc. I'll agree, not as common a sight or quite as useful as more streets, but I can both see it's use, and how it would be annoying when wanting a lot of regular urban streets.


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 warboss wrote:
Thanks for the quick reply in any case.

A world without corners!

Yeah,

 Azazelx wrote:

 RiTides wrote:

Have to admit this isn't my favorite, though... that circular feature in the lower left is one that we rarely use with the card tiles, as it's hard to make it look natural in a cityscape. I would personally prefer something else to go in the lower left quadrant, that would be more useful.

Looks to be a plaza, which could work well with some small kiosk-type buildings, a stage, maybe some jersey barriers, etc. I'll agree, not as common a sight or quite as useful as more streets, but I can both see it's use, and how it would be annoying when wanting a lot of regular urban streets.

I think the generic streets are better, as RiTides says you don't want a plaza involved in every set up.
Which is what will happen when this is one of your 6 tiles.

I hope the circle plaza area doesn't make it to the 28mm (40k) version,
The tile is great except for that!

I think if it was a square design the problem wouldn't exist as it could be the location for a important building..


Panic...

Pretty much I said that, and yes, a square tile would be much better in many ways.

yeah,
Ha sorry!

I was just adding that the big circle will be in one of the 6 areas of the board for every game!

I should point out that this Big o Circle is not a deal breaker!!
I can just place a big o building over it if I don't wanna look at it.
I still want want want one of these boards.

I'm actually starting to come around to the idea! Any of these would look excellent at the center.

Panic...

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of it, but for DzC I'll actually only use 4 tiles per game, so can swap it out.

The plaza adds some believability to the layout, I think.

The problem I have is that there are no big cities that I know of with all the empty space and sidewalk/pavement that you see in the DZC terrain. I think there should be twice as many buildings. But then if you do this LOS is shortened and the game changes a great deal. I wonder how differently DZC would play in an open field area with a fortress or complex in the middle of the board as the goal? Every game that I've seen for DZC is done in the middle of a highly urban area.

In design, especially game design, two things are important, form and function.

You do not need a realistic depiction, you need something that looks right and plays well.

City boards never play well, in my experience. Long, straight open spaces are terrible. Might as well at least look good.

from my experience playing Infinity, when roads are not parallel to the board edges, but at an angle, the gaming experience is vastly improved, of course this cannot be done in a modular board, at least not easily.

Can't believe they really did name the Deadzone Overlay add-on after me. :-p That's so weirdly cool. What an odd thing to be flattered by, but it just feels neat having gone from a hobbyist six months ago, to working with Mantic on Deadzone fiction, and then having some table-top product named after me. LOL

Good work, NewTruth! And hopefully more road layouts will be possible at 28mm once another design gets unlocked for it. Very happy to have the 5th design for 10mm unlocked, which is what I'm in for

yeah,
I'm not sure if they will have extra boards for 28mm as they have shown the 6 you get for your pledge.
Although an alternative straight and/or a road dead end and/or a L-shape turn would be amazing and get me to up my pledge.

I'm excited to see the final Anime Wars scifi board.

Panic...

Do you get all 6 in 28mm, or is it just the first 4 until others are unlocked?

 Azazelx wrote:
Do you get all 6 in 28mm, or is it just the first 4 until others are unlocked?

You get 6 boards, out of the designs that have been unlocked.

Once again Thank you!

UltraPrime wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
Do you get all 6 in 28mm, or is it just the first 4 until others are unlocked?

You get 6 boards, out of the designs that have been unlocked.

Sorry, my question was badly phrased - are we starting with only 4 again with the 28mm with 2 to unlock, or are they starting with all 6 unlocked?

I'll be backing this tomorrow morning, dat early bird £68 is too good to miss

Amazing thank you!






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