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silent25 wrote:

BAM!

Those are great.

Chris I know Cavalry wasn't really prevalent in ancient Greece (until around Phillip of Macedonia) but do you have any plans to add any into the game in the feature? The reason I ask because Aegyptus has chariots (very commonly used since Ramses) and it would also be rather interesting with some of the play you could have with these. For example some nice looking Centaurs as almost no good ones exist on the market or Minioans riding bulls etc. Finally I do find it interesting that you kept the right breast of the Amazonians but I guess some myths don't translate well into miniatures .

 Empchild wrote:
Chris I know Cavalry wasn't really prevalent in ancient Greece (until around Phillip of Macedonia) but do you have any plans to add any into the game in the feature? The reason I ask because Aegyptus has chariots (very commonly used since Ramses) and it would also be rather interesting with some of the play you could have with these. For example some nice looking Centaurs as almost no good ones exist on the market or Minioans riding bulls etc. Finally I do find it interesting that you kept the right breast of the Amazonians but I guess some myths don't translate well into miniatures .

The Amazons are getting cavalry instead of chariots, and Centaurs will effectively be cavalry as well and usable by some Demigods.

The 'one breasted' idea of Amazons depends on what source it comes from. Most classical depictions of Amazons (like on the Parthenon) show them with two breasts. http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6022/5991309254_3229da938e_z.jpg And the Athenians are the people who claimed historically to have waged a war against the amazons, so I suspect they should know! :-) So like most myths, there are lots of different versions and contradictions.

--Fitz

Awesome thx for the update Chris. I have been eagerly awaiting these as I remember buying my first anubi army backnij....2000 maybe...sometime around then.

Agreed, Cyp! Nothing else here is really of use to me here, but if those automatons get in and it's possible to buy just certain ones... hmmmm.....

That minoton is going to be golden.

Chris, will you be able to show any automaton sculpts by the end of the kickstarter? Also, will you have a pledge manager afterward that some of us can use to adjust our pledges upward after a payday or two?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
That minoton is going to be golden.

Chris, will you be able to show any automaton sculpts by the end of the kickstarter? Also, will you have a pledge manager afterward that some of us can use to adjust our pledges upward after a payday or two?

Thanks, as a huge Harryhousen fan myself, I'm really looking forward to the bronze Minotaur!

I've already done the little owl. It's possible I may be able to get started on one of the others, but running the program is practically a full-time job, so I can't make any guarantees.

I'm not sure about a pledge manager. We're planning on setting up a Paypal option for folks without credit cards/Amazon accounts, if that's what you mean.

--Fitz

PS: we added some new graphics to the page to help illustrate what you get in the reward levels - to keep the 'free stuff' easy to understand... here's a sample:

Update 14 is out with new Amazon sculpts. Looking good




And painted Amazon hero.



Not sure I like the NMM, but that is a personal preference. NMM can be a divisive style.

$5,000 till the Athenians are unlocked!

Chris how long until all of these will be able to be purchased via retail? Also do you do retail sales or are you direct purchase only now?

silent25 wrote:

This is interesting... will be there be multiple sculpts for each rank? I can't imagine it would just be one sculpt per rank, but if it's more, that's a lot of sculpts!

 RiTides wrote:

This is interesting... will be there be multiple sculpts for each rank? I can't imagine it would just be one sculpt per rank, but if it's more, that's a lot of sculpts!

The back rank looks to be similar to the single fig I also posted except for the head. I expect there will be multiple head options, though Fitz is ultimate authority on this issue

 RiTides wrote:

silent25 wrote:

This is interesting... will be there be multiple sculpts for each rank? I can't imagine it would just be one sculpt per rank, but if it's more, that's a lot of sculpts!

Yes, all of out units have multiple sculptures per rank (at least 2 per rank in the phalanxes, so there will be at least 6 different poses in the units - though I may do another set of conversions for the Amazons, bringing them up to 9, as it would be cool to try different unhelmeted heads/faces. Join us, guys! The more backers we can get, the more Amazons I can sculpt and put into production! :-)

 Empchild wrote:
Chris how long until all of these will be able to be purchased via retail? Also do you do retail sales or are you direct purchase only now?

The stuff in the Kickstarter won't go to retail sales until next summer, when the book ships. (But Kickstarter backers can get the Demigods, Trojans, Amazons, and bonus figs when they are all complete this September/October, with an early PDF of quick-start rules.)

--Fitz

OK and I believe you previously stated backers can place early orders after the ks? Meaning if I want to order several phalanxs latter I can?

LOVE the new Amazons Fitz. These are goign to be a big hit!

This is shaping up to be a wonderful-looking KS.

I'd buy, if it wasn't for UK customs typically charging 33% whenever something enters the country.

Are there any/ will there be any retail distributors this side of the pond for crocodile games stuff?

You could sell a lot of these in Europe, considering that it's based on European myth.

 scarletsquig wrote:
This is shaping up to be a wonderful-looking KS.

I'd buy, if it wasn't for UK customs typically charging 33% whenever something enters the country.

Are there any/ will there be any retail distributors this side of the pond for crocodile games stuff?

You could sell a lot of these in Europe, considering that it's based on European myth.

UK orders are being shipped from our partner in the UK - you won't be getting charged any customs.

--Fitz

Good to see Dionysis added to the Demigod level. Hopefully there can be a couple more, since there's some very nice figures in there. I'd like to get on board, but the price/value is just not there for that pledge, especially as a KS - $120 plus post for 8 (now 9) models when there are some lovely character models on Crocgames website at retail for $15



Or even for $9


Like, Aeres is big and kickass, but while Artemis is still a lovely and subtle model, she's not in the same league. I mean, I'd potentially go in for Council, but I don't want to pay for a printed book I'll probably never use (sorry!), and the $55 shipping cost can go to Hades.


It might also be worth offering a miniatures-only version of Skirmish.

I don't have any of the Wargods figures (yet), so if anyone can give me an idea about what size/"scale" they are, I would appreciate it.

Would they look more at home next to GW figures or (as I am hoping) next to Warlord Games' plastic Hoplites?

Pictures would be absolutely awesome.

Thanks.

~Eric

And the Athenians are unlocked! Looks like a couple backers went BIG! Sadly no pics of the miniatures. Chris hasn't started sculpting them yet.

 Taarnak wrote:
I don't have any of the Wargods figures (yet), so if anyone can give me an idea about what size/"scale" they are, I would appreciate it.

Would they look more at home next to GW figures or (as I am hoping) next to Warlord Games' plastic Hoplites?

~Eric

WarGods miniatures are the same scale as Warhammer Fantasy.

The latest stretch goal has been unlocked - Reinforcements! ALL Peltast units in the Kickstarter are now upgraded from 10 to 12 models!

--Fitz



http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1820979427/wargods-of-olympus-mythology-miniature-battle-game

 Chris FitzPatrick wrote:

WarGods miniatures are the same scale as Warhammer Fantasy.

--Fitz

Thank you sir. Much appreciated.

~Eric

Ok please help me out with this. I like the look of the game, I like the demo of the rules, and I like the minatures, but the kickstarter acheivement levels seem weird to me.

Add on starter is $75, but the jump in pledge level with starter is $160. I hope I'm missing something, but that seems like a very high entry point for new players. I have a group of 20 friends that are always looking to jump into new miniature games, and we all talked about this kickstarter, but came up with the same conclusion that it's too high to jump in.

Not trying to troll, but wanted to see if I'm understanding this correctly.

mrfantastical wrote:
Ok please help me out with this. I like the look of the game, I like the demo of the rules, and I like the minatures, but the kickstarter acheivement levels seem weird to me.

Add on starter is $75, but the jump in pledge level with starter is $160. I hope I'm missing something, but that seems like a very high entry point for new players. I have a group of 20 friends that are always looking to jump into new miniature games, and we all talked about this kickstarter, but came up with the same conclusion that it's too high to jump in.

Not trying to troll, but wanted to see if I'm understanding this correctly.

The Skirmish Set, which I believe is what you are referring to, includes the Starter Box ($75), Hero ($9), Peltasts ($35), Rule Book ($35), and S&H. The S&H works out to $6 for a total of $160 and you have access to all the stretch goals as well. Hope this answers your question.

If you want only the starter box, you can pledge for a demi-god at $20 ($15 for fig and $5 for S&H) and add on the necessary items.

I'm in for Amazons. Going to have a read of the ruleset and make any calls about joining in once I have the book.

However at the very least my son just gained some very nice figures to use as allies for his Lizardmen in a few months.

mrfantastical wrote:
Ok please help me out with this. I like the look of the game, I like the demo of the rules, and I like the minatures, but the kickstarter acheivement levels seem weird to me.

Add on starter is $75, but the jump in pledge level with starter is $160. I hope I'm missing something, but that seems like a very high entry point for new players. I have a group of 20 friends that are always looking to jump into new miniature games, and we all talked about this kickstarter, but came up with the same conclusion that it's too high to jump in.

Not trying to troll, but wanted to see if I'm understanding this correctly.

There are other pledge levels that include the rules. In fact, there is a free pdf of the rules included for every level above watcher. If you have hoplites already, you can get the rules and a demigod for $20 (plus international shipping) and get playing. If you want command sets, a phalanx or two, or whatever, they aren't too expensive to buy as add-ons. I pledged for this kickstarter despite my initial reservations because I felt like I could pledge a reasonable (i.e., small) amount and still get something of value. I don't think I could ever jump in at $160 for a starter set.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
There are other pledge levels that include the rules. In fact, there is a free pdf of the rules included for every level above watcher. If you have hoplites already, you can get the rules and a demigod for $20 (plus international shipping) and get playing. If you want command sets, a phalanx or two, or whatever, they aren't too expensive to buy as add-ons. I pledged for this kickstarter despite my initial reservations because I felt like I could pledge a reasonable (i.e., small) amount and still get something of value. I don't think I could ever jump in at $160 for a starter set.

Bob, that is a great point! So much so, that it's convinced me to dip my toe in at the $20 level.

However, I have a question. I'm only really after the Khalkotaur / Bull. It's listed at $15, which is the same price as the demigods. Is there any way I could get this model instead of a demigod for the $20 pledge (when it unlocks)? I have a feeling that might be a popular idea for folks wanting to support and get a model, but don't have an ancient themed army. People can do a lot with that bull (for now, I'm just thinking unit filler for my chaos dwarfs... although, now that I've pledged, it's always possible I'll get tempted to go in for more ).

Please let me know if this would be OK / what you think (if the project creators read this). Cheers!

They responded in the comments

Crocodile Games wrote:RiTides: Thanks for the suggestion - nice to see some Dakka's here!. I think we can open the Painter x1, etc, to any $15 miniature, I just can't change the reward as written (once backed, we can't change it). But I think I can set the survey to provide an option for any Demigod, Bull, or even the Sebeki Hero (so long as the reward is a single mini for $15.) You should be able to pick multiples this way as well, if you got Painter x2, etc. So yes, we'll figure it out. The only 'but' I'd say is the Painter x8 levels, those are a set of all 8, and they include the Dionysus figure, no swapping things around on these as they'll be packed as a lot.
Thanks, --Fitz

Woot! Of course, now that I know about the options it will be tempting to pledge for a whole unit of bulls . But for now I'm just in for one, with the thought that if it turns out to be the right size / etc for what I have in mind, I'd get more of them later.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
I'm in for Amazons. Going to have a read of the ruleset and make any calls about joining in once I have the book.

However at the very least my son just gained some very nice figures to use as allies for his Lizardmen in a few months.

I must admit the Amazons will be a big part of my pledge - they will also I think make a really good Elf spears unit and tie in well with the new Handmaiden model...............

That's a smart use of them! Particularly since GW's HE spear elves are so terrible...

And $85,000 passed.

The Wendigo warband book is now available as PDF. So for $20 you can get pdf's of all three Wargods books While not available for the KS, I will say the Wendigo figures are very cool. Only the Ice Witch was sculpted by Chris and the rest by Ben Siens, but Ben did an awesome job on the figs. Local who plays WG runs them also in a winter themed Beastman Army. They look great on the table.