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its importent to consider DC villands and heroes are disgned to be overpowerd and perfect(save kryptonite, thats why marvels better because DC have unjustified duex ex machina defeats, in marvel there justified) marvel heroes have weaknesses and are justified in there powers

so all out fight is even, because hors hammer blocks anything, so supermans laser eyes included, and thor would be able to get kryptonite somewere in the nine realms, +je is generally tankier, look at the actors, chriss hemsworth, big buff, the superman one is skinny, so all his streagth comes from his unjustifeid power, so in a fist fight i say thor,

in a fight with everything included i say thor

Superman isn't all to strong against magic and Thor can use magic. Much like Sups has issues fighting Black Adam

Example:

Marvel Comics made the shock reveal yesterday that Thor will be a WOMAN from October.

Marvel Editor Wil Moss says: "The inscription on Thor’s hammer reads ‘Whosoever holds this hammer, if HE be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor.’ Well - it’s time to update that inscription...
"And this new Thor isn’t a temporary female substitute - she’s now the one and only Thor, and she is worthy!"

"This is not She-Thor," Jason Aaron, the writer of the new Thor series, said in a statement. "This is not Lady Thor. This is not Thorita. This is Thor."

So...yeah. Thor's got boobs now and no willy.

And can still whoop Superman.

I agree with everyone else that we need to narrow down which Thor and Superman we are talking about.

The example of Thor using lightning to incapacitate Superman can be debated with the Red Son version of Superman, who can move faster than a human thought (its how he beat Luthor's Green Lanterns) and if Superman can move that fast then no matter what Thor does Superman will always win.

My vote goes to Superman only because of the way the character is written. Superman has always been strong enough to overcome any situation. Ill agree its a poor way to approach a character and that is exactly why they had him "die" after his fight with Doomsday. His character got stale and they wanted to try something new cause what else can you do with a Comic character that never loses?

The thing is though that this is the best thing about comics. This debate will go on forever and that is half the fun of reading them as long as everyone is an adult and no one becomes TFG. Stan Lee was once asked who would win in a fight between Hulk and Thor(Thor was brought about to give the Hulk someone who could challenge him, just a fyi) and Stan Lee only said that its for the reader to decide not him.

But in all reality Batman would win. Batman is even worse than Superman in that Superman almost always wins, Batman always ALWAYS, has a plan to win.

ODIN FTW!

Second the post that Superman is weak against magic, and Thor's hammer and lightning are magical. Thor wins.

C'thulu.

C'thulu always wins.

While thor has other advantages over superman he would not win in a straight up 1 vs 1

 grayshadow87 wrote:
and let's not forgot in Final Crisis (*shudder*) when he was somehow a super genius who could perfectly memorize how to build a miracle machine to save everything.

Supes being a super genius was established way before Final Crisis.

In fact, it's the entire basis for the "For Tomorrow" storyline. He's so smart, he builds things just to prove to himself that he can and then forgets he built them.

He actually mentions at some point that he could solve all of the world's problems if he actually had the time(ie. if he wasn't fighting so much).

Wait, does Supes still have the ability to shoot a mini-Superman from his finger, who has all the powers as regular Superman?

Cause if so, I don't think Thor has anything to top that.

unfortunately, the authors of superman have said for the last 30 years, that he is as strong as he needs to be. he literaly can never stop getting stronger. while I would like to say thor would win, he wont, just because of the nature of superman.

If you wanna get down the nitty gritty, Superman is vulnerable to magic, Thor is magic. Thus Thor has the advantage. And since Superman (traditionally) doesn't kill, and Thor is known for slaying frost giants and dragons, I give it to Thor.

Superman, because he is pretty much the first and worst American superhero.

They only invented kryptonite because the fething stories got so boring people had lost interest. I read a comic once where some bloke had Louis as a hostage and halfway through his sentence of "One wrong move and the girl gets..." Supes was in and out before the bloke got to "it" how can anything Thor can do compete with his speed?

And strength.. well, its not even close. Superman has gotten progressively more strong as the series went on, I believe in a more recent comic he moved some fething planets out of orbit or some stupid gak. Thor is capable of benching what.. a few hundred tons tops? Hulk always knocks the gak out of him, (Thor) but Superman is literally supposed to be capable of lifting millions of tons.

Im a big comic book fan and I always have been, dont for a second think that this is the fan-boy in me talking, I gave up buying Superman stuff in my early twenties (other than Jeph Loeb and Tim Sales run because I always loved their stuff) because I think he sucks. I hate the way he doesnt wear a mask, I hate how he can do absolutely everything, and I hate his ridiculous moral compass.

I infinately prefer all of the Marvel heros other than Batman precisely because they do tend to get the gak beat out of them and come back to win. I love all of the cmics like that, where Spiderman gets beaten to within an inch of his life and crawls back to bed in tattered rags, it makes it all far more convincing and exciting to me.

But seriously, anybody who thinks Thor would win, basically doesn't read enough comics. I can say with the certainty of comicbook guy in the Simpsons that on Superman would annihilate Thor if it was a simple case of kryptonite-less fistycuffs.

Thor would win because he's using magic, and Supes doesn't do well against magic.

I vote for Son Goku. He would eat them both.

Yep, dials up to eleven. That panel pretty much ended the debate. Later on in that series Supes wielded Mjolnir and Cap's shield. And yes, Thor said later "now that I know thine score..." but talk is cheap.

Marvel pretty much acquiesced to the fact that DC's metahumans operate on higher power levels. There's also the "buried alien, the fastest man alive" who smoked Marvel's speedsters like they were standing still. I like that story.

 Ouze wrote:
Superman was able to beat the Hulk pretty easily during the DC/Marvel crossover.
Although Thor has defeated the Hulk before, generally speaking when they have fought the Hulk wins.
As such, I feel Superman would defeat Thor, generally speaking.

What you seem to forget is this. The hulk that superman fought in the crossover was the Professor Hulk, who is considered to be the WEAKEST of the hulks. And superman only JUST managed to defeat him.

Considering that the hulk has many stronger versions, I would imagine one like the Green Scar would destroy Superman.

It has been seen many times that Superman is vulnerable to lightening. To me, this makes Thor have the favour on his side. Otherwise, what's to stop Superman being knocked to the ground and then Thor just putting his hammer on Superman? Stopping Superman entirely.

Thor wins.

Thor wins, he has better outerunderpants.

Thor is a god, superman is a mere alien who gets turned into a weakling when shown green rock.
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On Earth in a fair fight Superman, as much as I hate to admit it. I hate DC comics, I used to collect and read Thor and The Avengers. As for Batman, unless he ambushed them he is outclassed in a fair fight. Batman would never take them on in a fair fight, since he's not a moron. Superman has a weakness that Batman knows. So batman wins everytime, hell he probably carries a kryptonite fragment in a lead container in the utility belt, at all times. Thor and Batman thats a little different. Thor has no obvious weakness aside from, not being worthy of the hamer on occasion, so whats he going to do to him after batman lays down some smackdown. Thor says 'Enough Mortal I say they Nah!'. Sure, we could argue about lightning and insulating against it, but look up lightning and resistance. It can be overcome. Thor could lose his hammer to some etra diensional hole, it has happened before. Depending on story arc that may or may not take away his powers. If it does remove his powers Batman fist pounds him. If it doesn't, just how long can he avoid Thors wrath. Batman has fallen to lesser enemies and its just a matter of time for Thor.


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 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
Thor is a god, superman is a mere alien who gets turned into a weakling when shown green rock.
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Thor is not a God, he is an Asgardian who was worshiped as a god. He can be killed

 Rune Stonegrinder wrote:

 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
Thor is a god, superman is a mere alien who gets turned into a weakling when shown green rock.
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Thor is not a God, he is an Asgardian who was worshiped as a god. He can be killed

Well, in Norse mythology, he is a God. In Marvel, maybe not, but as close as.

Thor. He's basically superman with a massive hammer

Superman wins I think. Basically, isn't Superman's greatest power that he is EXACTLY as powerful as he needs to be. He's constantly growing in power.

Thor takes this one easily. Superman's two weaknesses are kryptonite and magic. Thor throws around lightning, but not just lightning, magic lightning.

Besides, Superman is the lamest most pointless superhero ever written. With basically no weakness he can never be defeated. That's not a hero. A hero is someone who has to overcome obstacles through self sacrifice for the benefit of others. Superman has no obstacles to overcome, hence he is not truly a hero and his story is stupid. Just mho of course.

 Phiasco II wrote:
Thor takes this one easily. Superman's two weaknesses are kryptonite and magic. Thor throws around lightning, but not just lightning, magic lightning.

Besides, Superman is the lamest most pointless superhero ever written. With basically no weakness he can never be defeated. That's not a hero. A hero is someone who has to overcome obstacles through self sacrifice for the benefit of others. Superman has no obstacles to overcome, hence he is not truly a hero and his story is stupid. Just mho of course.

quoted for truth.

I never really liked superman, but Thor... Thor easily takes this. Especially if we're talking Rune-King Thor who can basically bend space and time to his will.

Superman. He rules.

Superman is weak to magic, Thor's hammer is Magic (they even said so in the new movie) Thor beats superman with magic hammer.

As has been mentioned, Supes is weak to magic. A magic sword would cut him just like a real sword would a normal man (and has been when Wonder Woman went after him with a sword). Arguably that means Thors hammer would hurt Supes as though he was a normal man being clubbed by a War Hammer. Plus the magical lightning from Cap Marvel yelling Shazam! has nearly killed Supes before.

Thor would beat Supes like a red headed step child.

Thor's cooler and actually not boring like Superman is.