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 Vivster wrote:
I wish the space wolves get some unique mech or anti-air forces!

The space wolves have already exceeded their allowance of daft models with the thunder wolfie cavalry

I personally think the the xeno codex will get large MC while Chaos got a uber flyer i think SM and IG will get some sort of large almost super heavy tanks, Large MC's arnt really their style.

The constant flow of Space Marine flyers is bad enough so I hope they don't get a Baby carrier or worse as well. The odd Artefact of the Older Legions is fine - perhaps a relic Superheavy or two.

Otherwise cool giant models nice

I'd love to see

Imperial Knight (mini Titan)- Ally (with Skitarii support) for all Imperial forces
Larger Tyranid Monsters
Sisters of Batlle War Shrine on banebalde chasis

arent Baneblades Str D? To hell with that. Thats literally the only reason i hate apoc games, Str D is what its based around 99% of the time. So many awesome and fun looking models, cant use them because a random Str D with 10-tables worth of range snipes them turn 1.

what they could do for a "uber" dreadnaught is to make it work similar to how warmachine does their jaxs. After a pen roll or glance has been made, you then roll what system; being like an arm, core/chest, or legs. Each system is destroyed individually and has separate HP and have an effect on the model's function IE: destroying the legs makes the model immobile, or loosing the ability to shoot a weapon mounted on an arm if its destroyed. Maybe, to put a more cinematic effect to it, maybe its chest section can totally destroy it outright.

They may end up bringing contemptor dreads out in C:SM... I know they're pre-heresy but it's the kinda thing GW does.

All I know is that the IG may soon find themselves throwing a BEIHNBLAADE!!! at everything...

 Selym wrote:
All I know is that the IG may soon find themselves throwing a BEIHNBLAADE!!! at everything...

Wait isn't that already their solution? I mean *coughs* naw. Instead, they will be throwing METAWL Knights at the enemy. Who needs Space Marines!?

 StarTrotter wrote:

 Selym wrote:
All I know is that the IG may soon find themselves throwing a BEIHNBLAADE!!! at everything...

Wait isn't that already their solution? I mean *coughs* naw. Instead, they will be throwing METAWL Knights at the enemy. Who needs Space Marines!?

People with too few METHUL BAWKSES need the marines

 Vineheart01 wrote:
arent Baneblades Str D? To hell with that. Thats literally the only reason i hate apoc games, Str D is what its based around 99% of the time. So many awesome and fun looking models, cant use them because a random Str D with 10-tables worth of range snipes them turn 1.

and this is the basis of all the anti FW stuff....... riiiiiight here....

 ausYenLoWang wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
arent Baneblades Str D? To hell with that. Thats literally the only reason i hate apoc games, Str D is what its based around 99% of the time. So many awesome and fun looking models, cant use them because a random Str D with 10-tables worth of range snipes them turn 1.

and this is the basis of all the anti FW stuff....... riiiiiight here....

I thought only the volcano cannon was a destroyer. The baneblade's main armament doesn't do that...

MrMoustaffa wrote:We have apocalypse for a reason guys.

I believe you meant "we have Epic for a reason".

While things were arguable before, the fact that eldar now straight get a Knight Titan in their codex is what really takes the gloves off. I can't but think we're going to see the gradual inclusion of more and more Epic units until... well... every codex has them until we get to Tau or Eldar again.

A dominatrix version of a swarmlord will show up.

Calling it right now.

 Selym wrote:

 ausYenLoWang wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
arent Baneblades Str D? To hell with that. Thats literally the only reason i hate apoc games, Str D is what its based around 99% of the time. So many awesome and fun looking models, cant use them because a random Str D with 10-tables worth of range snipes them turn 1.

and this is the basis of all the anti FW stuff....... riiiiiight here....

I thought only the volcano cannon was a destroyer. The baneblade's main armament doesn't do that...

I think that was ausYenLoWangs point. The basis for a lot of anti FW complaints is simply ignorance.

 -Loki- wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 ausYenLoWang wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
arent Baneblades Str D? To hell with that. Thats literally the only reason i hate apoc games, Str D is what its based around 99% of the time. So many awesome and fun looking models, cant use them because a random Str D with 10-tables worth of range snipes them turn 1.

and this is the basis of all the anti FW stuff....... riiiiiight here....

I thought only the volcano cannon was a destroyer. The baneblade's main armament doesn't do that...

I think that was ausYenLoWangs point. The basis for a lot of anti FW complaints is simply ignorance.

Well, I think we all know the answer to the ignorance: Disallow destroyer weapons. That still leaves about 98% of FW stuff.

most of the time i see the anti side of FW in touneys is against the IG super cheap, un-playtested, broken units spammed in tourney lists. A quick google search gives a few. Then theirs HQs like the one SM libby thats godly broken at only, 160? points or so....then you have guns that make thunderfire cannons look like pee shooters with the amount on NON-D S firepower they bring, like the one that lays 12 Blast templates that has a crap ton of wounds at T7, ignores cover i believe too. I was listening to a podcast in the background one day while I painted, and this convo came up; one of the guys was talkign about why the DONTT use FW in a lot of tourney's and to prove it, he played a game with his buddy. Needless to say his friend quit after beign tabled in 1.5 turns, the aformention gun taking out roughly 600 points by itself for about a 200 point investment.

Case in point, sure, the SD weaponry should always be disallowed for regular games, but I'm not aware of any 40k approved SD firepower anyways, so its a moot point anyways. But don't paint every person who dislikes FW in regular games as ignorant fools bc their is a definite real reason that FW hasn't been allowed all this time.

Hoo boy here we go again, bring up a specific list of all those units and watch me, Sasori, Zebio, Loki, and Peregrine debunk all of them for the umpteenth time.

I wouldn't mind if they released say, a white dwarf, with some toned down rules for using the baneblade and it's variant's, and the ork stompa, in normal 40k games.

 Kain wrote:
Hoo boy here we go again, bring up a specific list of all those units and watch me, Sasori, Zebio, Loki, and Peregrine debunk all of them for the umpteenth time.

no, bc that would take this post off topic and start a flame war. I was hesitant to even post this once about FW, but all i saw was hate for a legitimate concern, so I spoke in his/their defense. ONCE. I won't be the cause of a circular argument that gets nowhere fast, especially if it means hijacking some1 else's post that has nothing to do with it.

overlordweasel wrote:

 Kain wrote:
Hoo boy here we go again, bring up a specific list of all those units and watch me, Sasori, Zebio, Loki, and Peregrine debunk all of them for the umpteenth time.

no, bc that would take this post off topic and start a flame war. I was hesitant to even post this once about FW, but all i saw was hate for a legitimate concern, so I spoke in his/their defense. ONCE. I won't be the cause of a circular argument that gets nowhere fast, especially if it means hijacking some1 else's post that has nothing to do with it.

Concession accepted.

 Selym wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 ausYenLoWang wrote:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
arent Baneblades Str D? To hell with that. Thats literally the only reason i hate apoc games, Str D is what its based around 99% of the time. So many awesome and fun looking models, cant use them because a random Str D with 10-tables worth of range snipes them turn 1.

and this is the basis of all the anti FW stuff....... riiiiiight here....

I thought only the volcano cannon was a destroyer. The baneblade's main armament doesn't do that...

I think that was ausYenLoWangs point. The basis for a lot of anti FW complaints is simply ignorance.

Well, I think we all know the answer to the ignorance: Disallow destroyer weapons. That still leaves about 98% of FW stuff.

You're still not getting it. Even saying 'disallow destroyer weapons' to these people is the same as 'disallow Forgeworld', because there's a huge amount of ignorance on just how good Forgeworld units are. The idea that someone thinks a Baneblade has a destroyer weapon, a unit that never had one in its Forgeworld incarnation (because destroyer weapons didn't even exist then) and never had one when GW took the kit for Apocalypse either, shows how much people don't know about Forgeworld stuff, let alone GW stuff.

 Evileyes wrote:
I wouldn't mind if they released say, a white dwarf, with some toned down rules for using the baneblade and it's variant's, and the ork stompa, in normal 40k games.

They did, it's called Spearhead. Not updated to 6th but still usable.



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I think the Valkyrie is big enough for the IG. Dang thing is a monster. I would rather see new small light tanks than banblade chassis sized tanks.

here's a crazy idea....since they're just giving every army a MC...give the tyranids a TANKS...Like with an AV and everything!!! but make it like AV 6 with 7 HPs, an have a SR that it cant die until its HPs are depleted. And give it the ability to assault....we'll call it: the Tyrandrake!!!

Yo i heard you guise liked super heavies so we made this realy quick and just uped a old epic model.

phatonic wrote:
Yo i heard you guise liked super heavies so we made this realy quick and just uped a old epic model.

What, kinda like Baneblades and Stompas?

phatonic wrote:
Yo i heard you guise liked super heavies so we made this realy quick and just uped a old epic model.

To be fair, plenty of people have been pissing and moaning about GW ignoring the goldmine of Epic with their big model releases. Now they went back to Epic, and it's terrible because it's an old Epic model?

does that ting have a cannon for a?....oh my....

overlordweasel wrote:
does that ting have a cannon for a?....oh my....

Stomach? Why, yes it does.

(Seriously, if you think the wang should be there, you might want to see a doctor about your own genital placement).

It's not like it's an old-school Ork Great Gargant after all.

Subtle they aren't. See Avatar

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 Pouncey wrote:
:: gasps at the thought :: I hope so! : D

Because then I could maybe use my Baneblade that I primed but never painted! : D

GW released a baneblade model didn't they? There aren't 40K rules for it in IG book?

Are the rules for heavies, pg 83, used for any present vehicles? Even a Leman Russ doesn't really strike me as fitting the description as a mobile fortress, but a Baneblade sure would.