Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!

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**Alpharius**

Guys - we've already moved PAST that whole discussion topic.

Some felt certain aspects were lacking, also RH realized that some things were lacking, changed things up, on to bigger and better things.

There really isn't any need to rehash it all over again, is there?

**HisDivineShadow**

So unless they produce every idea they've ever had in this kick starter the whole campaign is a failure? Maybe if this were a board game, or self contained set, but they are launching a line.

Applying your logic the Apollo program was a failure because it didn't put men on Pluto.

**Alpharius**

HisDivineShadow wrote:
So unless they produce every idea they've ever had in this kick starter the whole campaign is a failure? Maybe if this were a board game, or self contained set, but they are launching a line.

Applying your logic the Apollo program was a failure because it didn't put men on Pluto.

That isn't what he was saying - that's a bit of a straw man there, and not something that will help foster useful debate and discussion.

**Krinsath**

HisDivineShadow wrote:
So unless they produce every idea they've ever had in this kick starter the whole campaign is a failure? Maybe if this were a board game, or self contained set, but they are launching a line.

Applying your logic the Apollo program was a failure because it didn't put men on Pluto.

It'd be more along the line of Apollo circling the moon but never landing. Sure, you got TO the moon, and past it technically, but it wasn't quite the same as what your goal was understood to be from the "We choose to go to the moon" speech. You can easily redefine the goal to cover that shortfall, but everyone will know you didn't really meet it no matter how much spin you put on it.

They specifically said they have 150 models for the line, and their real goal is to get all of them into production. If you for a second believe that $12,000 was the actual target I have some beachfront property in Montana to sell you. They are playing the KS game and playing it fairly well IMO. I think there was a bit of "SKY IS FALLING" going on early, but I'd honestly be surprised if this one failed to crack the 1M mark and be "completely" successful. It's possible they might fall short, of course, but we're still too far out to tell for sure.

**somewheresomehow**

+1 Krinsath. Very well said!

**Jimsolo**

Krinsath wrote:
If you for a second believe that $12,000 was the actual target I have some beachfront property in Montana to sell you.

There's some really sweet beachfront property in Montana, actually.

(Ironically, this one actually IS for sale!)

**Krinsath**

Jimsolo wrote:
Krinsath wrote:
If you for a second believe that $12,000 was the actual target I have some beachfront property in Montana to sell you.

There's some really sweet beachfront property in Montana, actually. (Ironically, this one actually IS for sale!)

You are correct, I should have specified oceanfront since lakes can have beaches too.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Oooh well played.

**Lt. Coldfire**

I'll pay $12,000 for that, Jim.

**Alpharius**

On topic please - thanks.

**HisDivineShadow**

Then, depending on your asking price, I may very well be interested in that beach front Montana property.

As long as I get some freebies.

I'm also interested in more info on troop box contents. Converting gw bits onto these seems like...heresy

**KalashnikovMarine**

Not even the fun kind of heresy.

Speaking of GW bits, does any one have a lead on Adeptus Mechanicus style bits? That Necropriestess is becoming a Mechanicus Techpriestess show piece and I want a bad ass base.

**Ouze**

I have to say; my interest in the now-3 different tank driver half-models was a pretty firm "meh", figuring one would get used and 2 would get chucked into a bits box forever.

That they are going to add the bottom halves is pretty exciting; I'm sure I can find room for these extra models somewhere.

**Lansirill**

Ouze wrote:
I have to say; my interest in the now-3 different tank driver half-models was a pretty firm "meh", figuring one would get used and 2 would get chucked into a bits box forever.

That they are going to add the bottom halves is pretty exciting; I'm sure I can find room for these extra models somewhere.

I know. I can think of *tons* of uses for these ladies now that they have bottom halves.

**HisDivineShadow**

Lansirill wrote:
Ouze wrote:
I have to say; my interest in the now-3 different tank driver half-models was a pretty firm "meh", figuring one would get used and 2 would get chucked into a bits box forever.

That they are going to add the bottom halves is pretty exciting; I'm sure I can find room for these extra models somewhere.

I know. I can think of *tons* of uses for these ladies now that they have bottom halves.

I really hope you were insinuating what I think you are insinuating....

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**Minx**

Nurse Bernadette is ready to take your temperature now:

**Jimsolo**

HisDivineShadow wrote:
Then, depending on your asking price, I may very well be interested in that beach front Montana property.

As long as I get some freebies.

I'm also interested in more info on troop box contents. Converting gw bits onto these seems like...heresy

$78 million dollars. Although you could definitely say there are some freebies.

But, back on topic: I agree. I would love if there were some bits that looked GW enough to justify what they count as, but not so close as to invite a lawsuit. That would be awesome! If the troops don't get weapons options, I may have to lurk in the alley outside my local game store and mug Guard players.

**Minx**

Update #9:

(the parts pertaining trooper boxes and their free upgrade)

And you are now cruising along quite nicely towards the next Free Upgrade, which will be included in ALL Regular Troopers boxes for Jailbirds, Kurganovas, and Iron Empire, regardless of your pledge level.

The Troopers Boxes

As you may be aware, all the troopers and command group boxes of the Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter are made of 5 multi-part miniatures with, and this is crucial, ball-joint assembly. This means maximum possible flexibility in repositioning your soldiers and customizing your units.

Furthermore, please note that each Command Group box doubles up as a second Trooper Box since, inside a Command Group box, you get everything you need to make 5 troopers. And you get additional accessories to transform two of them into Weapon Specialists and one of them into a Sergeant.

And of course, the 5 Command Group soldiers are different for the 5 soldiers in the Troopers Box.

In the end, you can build large units that will have much diversity.

What's in a Box?

Each Trooper Box is made of 5 multi-parts troopers. They will be split as follows: head, torso, left arm, right arm, pair of legs.

We are still debating with the foundries to see exactly how we handle the rifles.

We know that the rifles will be supplied as a separate part. But we are still studying the possibility of having the two hands attached to the rifle (and therefore, separated from the arm at the wrist), or just having the right hand attached to the rifle, with the left hand remaining attached to the left arm.

We think that this second option is probably the best for several reasons, but we still have to do a few tests before making a final decision (which will be before the end of the Kickstarter).

The upcoming $355,000 Update (nearly there!)

When we reach $355,000, a new Free Upgrade Pack will be unlocked.
This one is for the Regular Troopers Box for each army (Jailbirds, KST, IE).

With this Free Upgrade, each box of 5 miniatures will now contain 3 additional alternate heads and 3 additional pair of arms which will allow you to add even more variety on the tabletop, as well as several additional accessories like grenades, satchels, contact weapons and sidearms.

Also, many of you have been asking for un-helmeted versions of the Iron Empire Troopers.
Well, we heard you and you're getting your wish: all the heads from the Troopers Upgrade Pack will be un-helmeted.

**WolfStark**

Damn a little bit too late XD

**PsychoticStorm**

Quite good update love the feedback they want.

**timd**

timd wrote:

I'm hoping they will add a second box of five more different troopers to each army so that there are 10 unique figs to build from. Five figs is not really enough to build an army no matter how posable they are...

T

Well that got answered pretty quickly...

"Furthermore, please note that each Command Group box doubles up as a second Trooper Box since, inside a Command Group box, you get everything you need to make 5 troopers. And you get additional accessories to transform two of them into Weapon Specialists and one of them into a Sergeant.

And of course, the 5 Command Group soldiers are different for the 5 soldiers in the Troopers Box."

**Slayer le boucher**

Minx wrote:
Nurse Bernadette is ready to take your temperature now:

heee...

Are they related?...;p

**Lansirill**

timd wrote:
timd wrote:

I'm hoping they will add a second box of five more different troopers to each army so that there are 10 unique figs to build from. Five figs is not really enough to build an army no matter how posable they are...

T

Well that got answered pretty quickly...

"Furthermore, please note that each Command Group box doubles up as a second Trooper Box since, inside a Command Group box, you get everything you need to make 5 troopers. And you get additional accessories to transform two of them into Weapon Specialists and one of them into a Sergeant.

And of course, the 5 Command Group soldiers are different for the 5 soldiers in the Troopers Box."

I'm planning on going mainly Jailbird, but mixing in a few Iron Empire and Kurganova pieces to add some variety. Considering that Jailbirds are already relatively haphazardly equipped, I think this could work out nicely.

**Jimsolo**

So it seems like the reveal order is kind of formulaic, but Raging Heroes also seems pretty good about listening to feedback.

So on that note, which models do you want to see revealed next? Pick, say, five. I'm just curious if I'm justified in drooling over my choices, of if I should just shut up and let everyone else have what they want first.

If it were my choice, I'd go:
5- Yoko the Psycho Pyromaniac.
4- Bikes. Specifically, the Jailbird bikes, but any of them that aren't Iron Empire would be sweet.
3- Alternate cut of Invanka Kurganova. That threatens to be an amazing mini!
2- Snipers. Any of the support box snipers. ANY of them!
1- One Shot Blondie!

Hey, interesting question now that I think of it. Does anyone know if there are any concrete plans for the game rules to be released later? For instance, will the heroine models have unique rules, or will they just be particularly pretty models to represent generic hero profiles?

**somewheresomehow**

In descending order...

1.) Any bike.
2.) LuLus (Just so I can get this choice over and done with.)
3.) Yoko or Mortaria (either is fine with me.)
4.) Snipers (specifically either Jailbird or Kurganova. The IE one looks like a horrible sniper dance team.)
5.) The rest of the Mechs.

Jim, to answer your question, supposedly the rules will be all inclusive, so the heroes are going to get treated like that, and each given rules, etc. That is from what little I have read in their blogs and such. Most is snippets, and implications and assumptions that can be made by wording. I just assume that they wouldn't shoot themselves with a very constrictive rule set, when they are very heroine focused in the "body" of their work.

**Buzzsaw**

Some stealth SG updates from the front page;

The Orbital Strike Commander is mighty fine, the upgrades are a bit niche and the... hippo.

It's a hippo.

I... ahhh. I got nothin.

**keltikhoa**

A baby hippo.... because, ya know, when I think penitentiary woman, I also think baby hippo...

**Cyporiean**

The Hippo is adorable.

**BobtheInquisitor**

The hippo is my favorite design so far this Kickstarter--that little guy is adorable!

Irina looks great, but I can't shake the impression that the boobs were scrawled in over some original artwork, like a graffiti mustache or a Richard Johnson penned onto the face of a passed-out fratboy. Other than that, amazing. I really wish more sculptors went for commanders who looked like they are actually commanding rather than just screaming whilst shooting into a horde. While Marneus is busy busting some avatar face in, Irina is actually getting something important done.

When the model hits retail, I'll have to take a look. It maybe be worth attempting the ScarletSquig Werewolf Solution to save that model...

EDIT: For those of you who don't want the free hippo, PM me after the kickstarter and I'm sure we can come to an arrangement.

**somewheresomehow**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
When the model hits retail, I'll have to take a look. It maybe be worth attempting the ScarletSquig Werewolf Solution to save that model...

What is this solution? Sorry, a bit new, and not afraid to say it!