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-$25, I decided to drop my pledge to single mini for now.

I quite like Ilsa, can't see a use for her in what I've got planned but the concept art looks quite good. Probably end up using her to fill in $15 instead of another JB trooper command.

It's nice to see that they are looking at ways to get more unlocked without necessarily changing the SG intervals and the feedback that could result from such an action.

Once this is unlocked means the target number for total unlocks is $710k, which is a good bump from both sides of the equation.

Looking at kicktraq though the highest projection is $525k.

I'm a little late to the thread... I backed first day $500. And a week later pulled my backing.

I can't see a reason to back this. The company clearly doesn't know what they are doing, or simply don't care. As someone previously pointed out, they've said that they've been prepping this kickstarter for 6-18 months. But they didn't have the stretch goals ready? And since then their freebies and value have been terrible. They really seem to be treating this like a pre-order, but since the company is really unorganized I doubt they'll ship anything anywhere near the date.

I was thinking of grabbing the LT pledge, but I'm confused. It says for a $165 I can select $150 worth of miniatures. Where's that other fifteen bucks going? If someone says the freebies/kickstarter exclusive model that's nuts.

The mascots are cute, but most people have no use for them.

 Twelvecarpileup wrote:
I was thinking of grabbing the LT pledge, but I'm confused. It says for a $165 I can select $150 worth of miniatures. Where's that other fifteen bucks going? If someone says the freebies/kickstarter exclusive model that's nuts.

That's going towards the exclusive model and yeah, you're not alone in calling BS on that part.

 Twelvecarpileup wrote:
Where's that other fifteen bucks going? If someone says the freebies/kickstarter exclusive model that's nuts.

Let's not forget the Art Book.

Yes after all the time I think it is clear that Ragin Heroes made mistakes, I don't think a time machine will appear after a certain amount of time or number of posts pointing out on that one. Of course they have made a whole lot of things, as every company have and as every company they don't tell anyone what speficially happened.

I can't see that Raging Heroes doesn't know what it is doing, just that they didn't prepared well and have to learn out of the experience they made in this Kickstarter. Nevertheless it is a success until now for them and us. The number they achieve is pretty high and we already saw pretty good renders and a great amount of artworks for beautiful characters. They heard the complaints and they reacted. The communication isn't only in one direction and there are changes.

I don't agree that the freebies and upgrades have a terrible value. Until now we have three tank commanders (which have legs thanks to the backers), two freedom fighters and two mascots. Of course not everyone will be using them. That lies in the nature of a free thing, it's just impossible to make something everyone will use. All in all we have a bunch of miniatures and bits, which costs money to produce for a lot of people and is free. And only Drusilla is exclusive, which I think is nice from RH, since nothing is more frustrating as to see many interesting miniatures, you can't get because the KS is over.

Wellllllllll, the amount of things they did wrong vs the amount of things they did right + their willingness to correct mistakes equals not bad.

Look they could do better, they could avoid some mistakes, but overall they fix quite a few of them and did quite a few things good.

The concept art of the newly unlocked minis is great, but still no renders. Talk about missing the point.

The more time that goes on, the more I just want to just cut my pledge completely. If you have the renders, show them. Holding them back just makes it feel like you don't have any confidence in them.

Aren't the actual prints supposed to be for tomorrow?

Well, afaik, they've not actually said when we'll see pictures of the prints just that they have some in hand and were taking pictures. That was posted up yesterday, before update 20 was posted.

I have no idea but a print and comparison picture would help settle a lot of issues, if they have concerns or issues with showing a print incase of loosing backers I think they would loose more not showing any.

Well I do not think they would mention they would take pictures if they did not intent to show us.

Oh, I have no doubt that we will see the pictures. It's more down to when we'll see them. Hopefully it will be in another update today or some time tomorrow. Though I'd also like to see details of a few more SGs posted as well. Give us a mini-roadmap so we can start looking a bit further ahead.

Not to sound like a total fangirl, but I can't get over how awesome Lt. Drakkan looks.

Oh nice,. my name nabbed the spot.. well with some minor adjustment, but it still looks good to me.

Oh, her concept art looks fantastic. But we won't have an idea how she actually looks until they release an render. And for all we know, that might not even happen.

 Fafnir wrote:
Oh, her concept art looks fantastic. But we won't have an idea how she actually looks until they release an render. And for all we know, that might not even happen.

A wise alien once said: "patience you must have my young padawan".

Cheers to whoever is updating the OP with all the stretch goal pics (not sure if it's RH themselves or one of the mods... MDS?)

I am very interested in seeing the 3d prints! The art is fantastic, as are the renders, but I can't believe they didn't have any prints done before the campaign. Still, that could really help boost this, I think

It's done fantastic, and every campaign has a lull in the middle. It could easily catch a huge wave at the end, too, as these often do.

 Minx wrote:

 Fafnir wrote:
Oh, her concept art looks fantastic. But we won't have an idea how she actually looks until they release an render. And for all we know, that might not even happen.

A wise alien once said: "patience you must have my young padawan".

Considering the amount of competing kickstarters and online retailers out there, I have no obligation to be patient, and RH should not expect me to be. Especially with something so rudimentary as pictures of what I am actually paying for.

I know it's only art, but drakkan looks amazing. Really happy with that. And I have faith that the renders will be very close, but we'll see soon enough.

They already showed renders and they will continue with it but it's strange if someone expects to see everything. Kickstarter is not a online shop.

Fafnir 530736 5768611 wrote:Considering the amount of competing kickstarters and online retailers out there, I have no obligation to be patient, and RH should not expect me to be. Especially with something so rudimentary as pictures of what I am actually paying for.

Since you haven't paid yet and won't for at least another fourteen days i feel it's okay to ask for a bit of patience.
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Minx, I don't think your defending them is really helping things. It's a fair point to ask to see pictures, why not let it stand and move on?

Anyway, I'm stoked to see the 3D prints when they put them up!

 WolfStark wrote:
They already showed renders and they will continue with it but it's strange if someone expects to see everything. Kickstarter is not a online shop.

Yup, and the renders they have already shown have looked fantastic IMO. That's why I've no doubt that the rest will be also.

 RiTides wrote:
Cheers to whoever is updating the OP with all the stretch goal pics (not sure if it's RH themselves or one of the mods... MDS?)

Actually it is me feeding Major Tom with updated first posts

I just read the following in the TGG kickstarter comments:

PsychoticStorm on KS wrote:
I really love Jinx, I hope they fix his paws though, back paws 4 fingers front paws 5 fingers and elongated.

and since i can't post over there right now i have to ask here: Is there another picture of Jinx or am i just not seeing what PsychoticStorm saw.
For reference the picture from update #20:


Edit: My mistake. Nothing to see here

And minx is right, we have two weeks to mull things over. If, after those two weeks, we still want to pledge, we will. If we don't, then we won't. I understand the want for information, I understand the concerns and questions. I just don't understand the desperation and franticness.

 alanmckenzie wrote:

 WolfStark wrote:
They already showed renders and they will continue with it but it's strange if someone expects to see everything. Kickstarter is not a online shop.

Yup, and the renders they have already shown have looked fantastic IMO. That's why I've no doubt that the rest will be also.

Well, the renders of the heroines do all look very nice. However, there were issues with the trooper renders that sparked quite a big debate at the time and we've not seen anything since. Admittedly, the troopers were WIP so some differences from the concept art are to be expected.

What we need to see, and sooner rather than later, is pics of actual 3d prints. Really, imho, they either should have got at least a couple of pictures up yesterday. It doesn't take that much to snap some pictures and upload them, if they're not the best quality just make sure they're clearly listed as such. Either that, or they shouldn't have mentioned it and we'd not be in the current situation of jam tomorrow.

Why are people raging so much ^^

I think some of you guys are forgetting RH's past. I haven't heard a bad thing about them. I think you should have a little more faith in a company that has already proved they can produce great miniatures.

 Minx wrote:
I just read the following in the TGG kickstarter comments:

PsychoticStorm on KS wrote:
I really love Jinx, I hope they fix his paws though, back paws 4 fingers front paws 5 fingers and elongated.

and since i can't post over there right now i have to ask here: Is there another picture of Jinx or am i just not seeing what PsychoticStorm saw.
For reference the picture from update #20:

Spoiler:

Pic looks like Jinx has 3 "fingers" front and back. Cats have 5 at front and 4 back.
But if Jinx is a cat sized miniature, then you couldn't tell the difference I guess.