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**alanmckenzie**

Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Now, I want you guys' opinions. I posted a comment on the KS. To me, it doesn't sound negative, just matter-of-factly.

Be honest, am I off the mark in my assessment of my tone?

For the work-blocked:

Mathieu Raymond just now
I agree with Alan's assessment. A Pledge Manager at this point in time would be rather pointless. We have no idea of what most of the products will look like. I liked the concepts, but if the deviate from that or there are things that I don't find appealing in 3D, then I don't want to have allocated money to it.
There is also another important thing to consider with the pledge managers. Maybe some of us who are tired of waiting want to cash out their pledge as early as possible, even if it means getting a sub-par selection (not quality wise, but selection wise) to sever the ties as early as possible.
Jan: I think expecting Wave 1 by March 2014 is actually very optimistic. There is still over half of Wave 1 not presented as WIPs so far. If it took 3 months for that, then tack on another 3 months... there is just no way this can be done. For all we know they have been super busy addressing feedback to the WIPs in the last three weeks and not non-linearly working on new stuff.

Your tone is just fine Matthieu, perfectly reasonable, honest and intelligent... as I hope mine was ( I did resort to some sarcasm a week or two ago, about which I'm slightly embarrassed).

There do seem to be some rather loud voices on that comments section, however, who like to shout down sensible conversation as negativity. So don't be too bothered if your comment attracts any of that. In general, I much prefer to discuss this project here, rather than there.

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I like your hat, by the way.

**Mathieu Raymond**

alanmckenzie wrote:

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Your tone is just fine Matthieu, perfectly reasonable, honest and intelligent... as I hope mine was ( I did resort to some sarcasm a week or two ago, about which I'm slightly embarrassed).

There do seem to be some rather loud voices on that comments section, however, who like to shout down sensible conversation as negativity. So don't be too bothered if your comment attracts any of that. In general, I much prefer to discuss this project here, rather than there.

I like your hat, by the way.

Thanks, mate. You sound incredibly Canadian when you say you're embarassed about using sarcasm.

I'd much rather see sarcasm than CAPS & !!!111!!!1!! or insults, if you ask me.

**RoninXiC**

I'm "Jan" btw

I agree.. March for the first waveMIGHT be possible... but not for the rest. No way.

**prankster**

See, I'd have said March for the PM, at the earliest, with the way they're going with updates at present. They could, in theory, pull their finger out and get wave one to start shipping in March.

**Mathieu Raymond**

Ladies and Gentlemen! We have a new contender!

Ronin: since I'm out of my league here... I assume it's pronounced "Ian," or is it really "Dzhan"?

**BrookM**

You're just stating the facts as they are and it is a valid point really, as there is right now no point in doing a pledge manager when we're still waiting for them to deliver on something that was supposed to be done months ago.

Regarding the pronunciation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_(name)

**KalashnikovMarine**

It's just facts, and much as I try to moderate and play nice... three weeks of radio silence is fething weird.

**RoninXiC**

Jan has a very soft J sound, so it's neither Ian nor Dzhan.
Try to pronounce it like.. yoghurt? yeah, I guess that's pretty close ^^

**-iPaint-**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
...three weeks of radio silence is fething weird.

I'm not expecting a major update to this KS until well into December at this point. My expectations will be exceeded if something shows up in November, though, but I won't be holding my breath, that's for sure. I imagine we'll have the pledge manager and wave 1 finalized sometime in early 2014. We may have to contend with the end of year holidays at this point delaying shipping, production, etc, as it's a busy time of year with everyone traveling, on holiday, or shipping stuff.

~iPaint

**Azazelx**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:
UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
The trouble is I strongly suspect these chaps all have "proper" day jobs and just squeeze this in as and when, hence most of the communication and updates being out of office hours and always heavily delayed.

RH is a full time company so far as I know, they've been at this for a bit.

You know, he might well be right. Certainly in terms of it not being a full-time concern - despite what they say.

**Yodhrin**

Azazelx wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:
UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
The trouble is I strongly suspect these chaps all have "proper" day jobs and just squeeze this in as and when, hence most of the communication and updates being out of office hours and always heavily delayed.

RH is a full time company so far as I know, they've been at this for a bit.

You know, he might well be right. Certainly in terms of it not being a full-time concern - despite what they say.

They got nearly three quarters of a million dollars in this KS, unless their August holiday consisted of a special preview flight on the Virgin Galactic spaceplane loaded with Cognac and hookers, they have enough bloody money to work on this full time, and if they aren't I can only hope they're exposed and they go bankrupt due to the backlash.

**Buzzsaw**

Azazelx wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:
UNCLEBADTOUCH wrote:
The trouble is I strongly suspect these chaps all have "proper" day jobs and just squeeze this in as and when, hence most of the communication and updates being out of office hours and always heavily delayed.

RH is a full time company so far as I know, they've been at this for a bit.

You know, he might well be right. Certainly in terms of it not being a full-time concern - despite what they say.

While I can't offer any insight as to truth, their communication thus far would be massively disingenuous if this were the case. They have spoken pretty explicitly about expanding their "on-site team" and overall increasing their personnel.

It's mind-boggling, but while I joked some time back about the whole company perishing in a soup related accident, can anyone show any actual evidence that they haven't all shuffled off the mortal coil in the last two weeks?

That's becoming less and less of a joke; they really do seem to have achieved completely Zero communication. I know I sent a message to them weeks ago that has gone unanswered, and am seriously beginning to question at what point efforts to recover money become the only logical course of action.

**Azazelx**

Well, if you have, say, three people working part time around their real jobs, it's not a stretch to add a fourth part-timer or casual, is it?

As for their health, well, when was their Tumblr last updated?

Wasn't their last actual communication pretty much "Updating now, we'll answer questions in the morning!" ?

**BrookM**

Their Tumblr was updated a few days ago, which made me hope that they would come on out and finally do what they promised to do weeks ago!

**Azazelx**

What's that? Ship the first wave in September?

**Ouze**

you guys don't think they spent all the money on cocaine and hookers do you?

**BrookM**

Azazelx wrote:
What's that? Ship the first wave in September?

I had already written that fantasy off as a fable, I was more hinting at them being there for us to answer our questions, which was why they delayed that update so much, but like you said yourself, I need to set my expectations lower already!

As for the actual first wave release? Maybe September 2014 at this rate if they deign to tell us what the hell is going on there.

Ouze wrote:
you guys don't think they spent all the money on cocaine and hookers do you?

I doubt that, maybe make bad investments or put it all in their next project, just so it can run on time, but that, non!

Maybe they are taking this quiet time to prepare those seminars or something. Gotta please that niche of the backers after all.

**Azazelx**

Hm... maybe when they said the first wave would ship in September, they (secretly) meant September 2014?

I'm only half-joking.

**alanmckenzie**

Maaaaybe... But they did specifically say that everything would be done by March 14.

It's possible, we already know that they're able to achieve freaky things with time and space, 5 days in a weekend, tomorrow yesterday's, etc.

**Azazelx**

Everything? KS complete?

Yeeeeeeah.... did they say which year? If they were saying March 14, then this one is pretty much guaranteed to be 12 months late...

**Mathieu Raymond**

KalashnikovMarine wrote:It's just facts, and much as I try to moderate and play nice... three weeks of radio silence is fething weird.

Dude, you had better be getting a pretty good deal out of "fronting" for them, and in your honour, the position should be renamed "Level-Headed, Bi-Partisan Herald."

RoninXiC wrote:Jan has a very soft J sound, so it's neither Ian nor Dzhan.
Try to pronounce it like.. yoghurt? yeah, I guess that's pretty close ^^

Ok, so exactly like we pronounce Yan (the Ian-isn't-cool-enough-let's-throw-in-a-higher-scrabble-value-letter-in-there version we have in Quebec). So parents would probably throw fits knowing they're not THAT original.

Ouze wrote:you guys don't think they spent all the money on cocaine and hookers do you?

Let's assume a party of four, at 300$ of blow per nose, per night. Also, I have no idea how much males hookers go for, but we can safely assume 400 a night per body, and even though they are French, let's assume they are conservative and do it one-on-one, because it's that much more romantic. That's 700$ per night, 4 people, 2800$ per night for the company (I'm keeping the extra help at the bare minimum, pun intended). That means the money amassed (post KS and Amazon fees) would last 225 days, or about 7 and a half months. We should still be hearing from them.

**alanmckenzie**

Azazelx wrote:
Everything? KS complete?

Yeeeeeeah.... did they say which year? If they were saying March 14, then this one is pretty much guaranteed to be 12 months late...

See update #21 man.

**KalashnikovMarine**

Mathieu Raymond wrote:
KalashnikovMarine wrote:It's just facts, and much as I try to moderate and play nice... three weeks of radio silence is fething weird.

Dude, you had better be getting a pretty good deal out of "fronting" for them, and in your honour, the position should be renamed "Level-Headed, Bi-Partisan Herald."

Hahaha. I'm not that level headed or bi-partisan I want my toys too!

**Mathieu Raymond**

Sigh.

I'm sad no one could call me out on the numbers. I was hoping to be far off the mark as I've never partaken of either of those vices.

**Yodhrin**

Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Sigh.

I'm sad no one could call me out on the numbers. I was hoping to be far off the mark as I've never partaken of either of those vices.

I suspect you're underestimating the hookers, as for the Bolivian Marching Powder, it was never to my taste, but nearly £200 in a night? Either that is some really expensive blow, or they'd end up needing reconstructive nasal surgery within a month

**BobtheInquisitor**

You forget that experienced users will tend to use the blow to coat various orifices prior to...the big update?

**BrookM**

Remember, cocaine is NOT addicting, you just like the way it smells.

**Azazelx**

alanmckenzie wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
Everything? KS complete?

Yeeeeeeah.... did they say which year? If they were saying March 14, then this one is pretty much guaranteed to be 12 months late...

See update #21 man.

This word. I know the letters, but I don't recognise them when they are put together in that order.

Shameful.

**Mathieu Raymond**

Azazelx wrote:
alanmckenzie wrote:
Azazelx wrote:
Everything? KS complete?

Yeeeeeeah.... did they say which year? If they were saying March 14, then this one is pretty much guaranteed to be 12 months late...

See update #21 man.

This word. I know the letters, but I don't recognise them when they are put together in that order.

Shameful.

Full of win. Have an exalt, good sir!

**BrookM**

Maybe this week we'll hear from them, maybe even get admonished for the tone we set during the last three weeks.