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2014/02/11 07:11:13
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
I personally carry KD:M on my shoulders, because Adam does the right thing and then some.
On a non-humorous aside: can you define 'the right thing' in this case? Not needling, genuinely curious.
I think it won't matter what I say, because you've already made up your mind about KD:M.
Honestly, if I had already made up my mind I wouldn't have asked. I've advised before on Dakka that there is never a point in an arguing with someone you aren't willing to give the chance to change your mind. I certainly have formed an opinion since first I was introduced to their stuff, but there are definitely users here on Dakka who's opinions and attitudes I respect enough to at least hear out. You and Alpharius are certainly in that boat. I may not always agree with what you guys think, but you're usually coming from a rational and understandable place.
The reason I asked you in specific is that you self-identified as a diehard supporter of KD, so I thought you'd have some very good reasons. I'd like to have less negativity in my life, so I'd be thrilled to have my mind changed on this topic.
Jim, I'm going to ask you something, and I want you to understand that I'm not making fun or trying to insult you: do you have some form of learning or cognitive disability?
I don't think you're trolling, it's just rather disconcerting to see such a similar conversation repeated with the same participants in the same thread just about 90 days after the first one. If I'm reading too much into this and you just forgot, then there you go, click on the links above for a re-run of the conversation.
In any case, it's interesting for anyone to go back and look at the state of comparison between KD:M (and other "good communication" campaigns) and RH. The state of them really... seems to be pretty much unchanged, or at least that's how I would read things.
Let's do the time warp again!
I think the unveiling of the own forum is an interesting development.
I can't wait to see how everything is...handled...over there!
2014/02/11 13:48:25
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
The WarStore also carries some RH stuff (oddly only listed under Fantasy Miniatures even though the page includes their Sci-Fi offerings), though they're regularly out of stock of some things. http://www.thewarstore.com/RagingHeroes.html
Wouldn't be shocked to see TGG show up there once retail launches either.
2014/02/11 14:08:29
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
Google translate did a good job, and Alex provided the right correction for render.
Honestly, moderating a board and releasing information on it could be done easily... if only they had a street team of volunteers who would work for them, act as a conduit... but no, such a team does not exist. Too bad.
GamesWorkshop wrote: And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
2014/02/12 05:33:59
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
They could try re-recruiting their Heralds, which wouldn't surprise me seeing as they've got a new campaign coming up, but I don't see their own set of forums working, not the way they've been running information control until now.
It might go the way of GW's forums, they try to make it work but in the end decide to pull the plug.
Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
2014/02/12 09:56:12
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
BrookM wrote: They could try re-recruiting their Heralds, which wouldn't surprise me seeing as they've got a new campaign coming up, but I don't see their own set of forums working, not the way they've been running information control until now.
It might go the way of GW's forums, they try to make it work but in the end decide to pull the plug.
Well honestly the forums would be a great idea BUT if they have the same communication as now, having heralds won't do anything unless they are given information that others do not have.
2014/02/12 13:08:32
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
BrookM wrote: Three NDA's by Raging Heroes? Wow, what happens when you break them?
Sorry no I mean I'm under 3NDAs in general, if RH chose to give heralds ones I would understand that. And honestly it's good practice if you have playtesters- or intermediaries ala PP or Malifaux has
You can face breach of contract, fines, loss of infomation. The usual if you break a business agreement. One just kicks me out of a program I'm not even allowed to mention who I have contracts with because it could be seen as a breach of an NDA.
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2014/02/12 23:43:19
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
So it's a feint, withint a feint, within a feint, Migooo? I kid, you must be under pressure just watching what you say all the time.
This came up in the comment:
Creator Loud'n Raging about 21 hours ago
@David Brodeur: Nous l'avons bien reçu, mais effectivement, comme c'est une demande complexe et inhabituelle, nous devons en discuter avant de pouvoir vous répondre et en ce moment, je dois vous avouer que nous sommes le nez dans la sculpture du matin jusqu'au soir... Mais nous devrions pouvoir vous revenir cette semaine à ce sujet, ou lundi prochain au plus tard.
@Drachnien: Thanks!
@Mathieu Raymond: C'est plutôt cool comme idée! Il faut qu'on étudie ça, et on en reparle une fois les TGG livrées!
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@David... he made a complex and unusual request, they have to talk about it at next meeting, no answer until next monday at least. They are sculpting from dawn til dusk.
@Petit little moi: That's a rather cool idea, we'll have to think about it once TGG has been completely delivered.
What I had proposed on the comments was that they should consider auctioning off their "rejected" masters, because of the slightly off proportions, or ball-joint shenanhigans or detail size. This could be an interesting way to own a piece of the process and let backers get something really unique out of this. I don't think it'll happen, but I'll certainly remind them. They could sell them with conditions (no right to reproduce and such)
But hey, THEY'RE TALKING TO US. YAY!
GamesWorkshop wrote: And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
2014/02/13 00:26:24
Subject: Re:Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
Mathieu Raymond wrote: So it's a feint, withint a feint, within a feint, Migooo? I kid, you must be under pressure just watching what you say all the time.
This came up in the comment:
Creator Loud'n Raging about 21 hours ago
@David Brodeur: Nous l'avons bien reçu, mais effectivement, comme c'est une demande complexe et inhabituelle, nous devons en discuter avant de pouvoir vous répondre et en ce moment, je dois vous avouer que nous sommes le nez dans la sculpture du matin jusqu'au soir... Mais nous devrions pouvoir vous revenir cette semaine à ce sujet, ou lundi prochain au plus tard.
@Drachnien: Thanks!
@Mathieu Raymond: C'est plutôt cool comme idée! Il faut qu'on étudie ça, et on en reparle une fois les TGG livrées!
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@David... he made a complex and unusual request, they have to talk about it at next meeting, no answer until next monday at least. They are sculpting from dawn til dusk.
@Petit little moi: That's a rather cool idea, we'll have to think about it once TGG has been completely delivered.
What I had proposed on the comments was that they should consider auctioning off their "rejected" masters, because of the slightly off proportions, or ball-joint shenanhigans or detail size. This could be an interesting way to own a piece of the process and let backers get something really unique out of this. I don't think it'll happen, but I'll certainly remind them. They could sell them with conditions (no right to reproduce and such)
But hey, THEY'RE TALKING TO US. YAY!
Thanks for the update.
Yeah you have to be fairly careful. But if you want to be in that stage with companies you need to play ball. I will say that when I had an agreement with one company it was more of a handshake agreement until they decided too deal with a large media corporation. I stopped dealing with them on that level during that phase as things were brought more in house and the rules were far weaker because of it.
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2014/02/27 08:19:22
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
I think that they have finally stopped promising updates at specific times. Which is a shame because it always gave us a game to play while we waited... And they only missed their "2 updates in January" pledge by one day. So they were getting better.
I'm just thinking that they ought not to pay their community outreach employee too much... because there hasn't been much outreach past those few KS comments.
It's been a month, are we due for another overly long update?
GamesWorkshop wrote: And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!
2014/02/27 18:55:05
Subject: Raging Heroes [official] Toughest Girls of the Galaxy Kickstarter - $698,548 Finish!
Angels Amaranthine - growing slowly
Currently 200pts 
