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**BrookM**

Will be interesting to see if the program sees a revival with their next KS.

**AlexHolker**

BrookM wrote:
Will be interesting to see if the program sees a revival with their next KS.

I think it's more a question of whether they try to revive it. I rather doubt they'd succeed.

**Krinsath**

PsychoticStorm wrote:
On the bright side we know they are alive.

Their communication is so bad, that something might happen to them and nobody would notice for a long time.

I think you're missing the bigger news story there. Not only are they alive, we now have tangible proof that they both have calendars AND they know how to use them. Well, unless that was Easter 2013 they were putting up...curses!

Seriously though, at the progress they're (not) making I'm beginning to doubt that I'll have a retail interest in the product. That actually makes me somewhat sad, because they're good models overall. Time will tell I suppose; not like I need to worry about making that decision anytime soon from the looks of it.

**skarsol**

Fresh new updates on Facebook!

I definitely do understand the concern and the fears, and I'm writing up something today to share more info.
Meanwhile, remember that the planned 50 models originally planned for the First Wave meant 10 Troops boxes, and we pushed them back to great expense to us to make them better, with the blessing of most of our backers... As for the Updates, not sure you should go by the number of them. Probably want to look at the actual content, where you'll see that the post-KS updates have loads more info in each of them. We had to recopy all the Updates in a Word document last week: 100 pages without images! We must be crazy
But again, I understand the concerns, so stay tuned for new info

**Hulksmash**

To easy, I'll leave that to people to destroy who actually backed this project

**Wakshaani**

So, do you think that they'll send out Wave 1 before Relic Knights?

**RiTides**

Hulksmash wrote:
To easy, I'll leave that to people to destroy who actually backed this project

Lol

and yeah, they're just softballing it in there now!

I actually think the end product on this is going to be great. The communication along the way is definitely a case study in "what not to do", though

**Hulksmash**

They should take out of the updates copy all of the times they pat themselves on the back or insult their customers, should drop.....80% of it!!!

God, sorry guys, couldn't help it....

**BrookM**

It's okay, repeat after me: One of us! One of us!

**Hulksmash**

Oh, I used to hammer on them pretty bad during the campaign based on the dishonest way the handled the opening and then their lack of clear communication. I just watch this thread out of sheer giggly pleasure. But apparently when it's that soft pitch even I go for it....I are ashamed

**KalashnikovMarine**

So I'm a Raging Herald, a fan of the products and a general encourager of the masses who regularly calls for order and fair play in this thread...

but even I have my limits and I'm fast reaching the end of their accumulated good will with me.

Interesting how different this is to say DFG which is MASSIVELY overdue but... I'm cool with it. Because Mark talks to us, and is generally awesome.

**BrookM**

Ha, you say ashamed, but I bet you were doing this instead:

Hell, we're getting closer and closer to the one year anniversary of this grand event now. So, let it all go, so we can start year two afresh and full of other such positive things.

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KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Interesting how different this is to say DFG which is MASSIVELY overdue but... I'm cool with it. Because Mark talks to us, and is generally awesome.

Same with Kingdom Death: Monster for me. I should be raging and frothing at the mouth, but you know what, Adam also talks to us, he's transparent, honest and willing to jump into the comments section to answer questions on a regular basis.

**skarsol**

In regards to the "communication guy":

Well, he's not sitting idle, I can tell you that. For example, he's the one who put together all the miniature details (images, text, stories, ...) portion for the upcoming Pledge Manager. While doing it, he had to collate all of our KS Updates in one Word document: over 100 pages... of text only (I guess that with images, we're probably around 300+!). He's the one who's making sure that many of our backers get to see the images from our Updates by disseminating them elsewhere (you'd be surprised how many backers are not subscribed to the Updates). He's also the one who grabs the renders and photos and integrate them in a presentable form (thereby freeing up quite a bit of time for the 3D team for actual sculpting rather than getting my communication images ready). Indeed, preparing the sculpts for the renders, then doing the renders and integrating them in the TGG layout takes 2 weeks for each Update!

In the end, it's my fault if he's not sharing more new news with you all. I keep piling up more stuff for him to do... So it may not translate in more communications for the backers, but his work has freed up some much needed time for other members of the team, which has allowed the KS production to progress faster. And while in the end that all means that the KS will get delivered faster, I do get how it can leave some backers wanting more.

They are being fairly responsive now on their FB page (which doesn't help a lot of you

) so maybe they'll extend that to other places as well. (Responsiveness != content though

)

**Mathieu Raymond**

Eggs wrote:
I would guess not a lot - once funded, they immediately splurged on expanding their premises. New staff, and all those scrapped prototypes are gonna eat it up quick...

Oh no no, my dear friend. Not simply scrapping the prototypes, but a whole production run. They re-worked the 3D models, then sent them back for printing, then mastering and finally more production... and we're not even getting those in Wave 1.

Scrapping prototypes would have been a paltry in comparison.

**Eggs**

**Mathieu Raymond**

So, whatever happened to their quotes of the week promotion campaign? It seems to have died an abrupt death?

**RiTides**

Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Eggs wrote:
I would guess not a lot - once funded, they immediately splurged on expanding their premises. New staff, and all those scrapped prototypes are gonna eat it up quick...

Oh no no, my dear friend. Not simply scrapping the prototypes, but a whole production run. They re-worked the 3D models, then sent them back for printing, then mastering and finally more production... and we're not even getting those in Wave 1.

Scrapping prototypes would have been a paltry in comparison.

Is this all just from that one update several ago? Any chance you could quote the relevant sections showing this? I did search around a bit but couldn't find it laid out that clearly.

**BrookM**

I think it was mentioned and referenced here and there in the updates, not to mention this being the feedback of people who got the chance to sit in on one of those seminars, where they heard that models were discarded for the smallest of imperfections.

**Yodhrin**

If we don't see the pledge manager and some serious signs that they're gearing up to ship wave 1 within the next couple of months, I'm going to start worrying that they've spent too much of the money on their preening artiste'ery to actually deliver.

**Eggs**

If they do their next kickstarter before shipping wave 1, it's a fair guess they are robbing Peter to pay Paul...

**BrookM**

Well, let's see if there's word of wave 1 going out the door before the 4th of June, which was the date it went live IIRC. So, 43 days and counting.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

RiTides wrote:
Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Eggs wrote:
I would guess not a lot - once funded, they immediately splurged on expanding their premises. New staff, and all those scrapped prototypes are gonna eat it up quick...

Oh no no, my dear friend. Not simply scrapping the prototypes, but a whole production run. They re-worked the 3D models, then sent them back for printing, then mastering and finally more production... and we're not even getting those in Wave 1.

Scrapping prototypes would have been a paltry in comparison.

Is this all just from that one update several ago? Any chance you could quote the relevant sections showing this? I did search around a bit but couldn't find it laid out that clearly.

To be fair to them Sedition Wars produced a bunch of sculpts (Hexen, the Calamity crew) that looked great as masters, but when actually produced were horrible as a result of shrinking of the casting material

they didn't scrap them and sent them out resulting in loads of outrage

so without seeing in hand what the scrapped stuff here looked like we can't be certain getting rid of it was a mistake

**Mathieu Raymond**

RiTides wrote:
Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Eggs wrote:
I would guess not a lot - once funded, they immediately splurged on expanding their premises. New staff, and all those scrapped prototypes are gonna eat it up quick...

Oh no no, my dear friend. Not simply scrapping the prototypes, but a whole production run. They re-worked the 3D models, then sent them back for printing, then mastering and finally more production... and we're not even getting those in Wave 1.

Scrapping prototypes would have been a paltry in comparison.

Is this all just from that one update several ago? Any chance you could quote the relevant sections showing this? I did search around a bit but couldn't find it laid out that clearly.

The post was deleted, from what I can tell. It was in the first 3 or 4 and now it's just gone. It was a general post on the main Raging Heroes FB page, not the Asharah Raging one.

**BrookM**

It's probably for the best that posts like those are kept away from the general public.

**BobtheInquisitor**

BrookM wrote:
It's probably for the best that posts like those are kept away from the general public.

This is the face of Raging Heroes?

They just can't let him near their entire production run of minis again. Or their communications guy. Or facebook.

**BrookM**

"And I get to tend the rabbits."

Damn it..

**Azazelx**

BrookM wrote:
Will be interesting to see if the program sees a revival with their next KS.

We should reapply.

**Krinsath**

I'm pretty sure if they do revive it, one of the requirements will be to list online communities you participate in and anyone listing Dakka will be mysteriously rejected.

I just noticed that my Like of their FaceBook page was removed. While I'm sure it's FaceBook's auto-unlike feature mentioned before, I DO show Dakka as one of my very few "likes" as well. Lacking any real news to discuss.... #antidakkaconspiracy

**BrookM**

Azazelx wrote:
BrookM wrote:
Will be interesting to see if the program sees a revival with their next KS.

We should reapply.

**Snapdragon**

Long-time lurker on this thread. Given the quality of RH's other models, I'm...fadingly optimistic. I'm still hanging onto the hope that they're just frenching the whole thing up and taking their time and that in the end, I'll have a glorious female horde to go with my Sisters of Battle, but the clock's ticking...