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 -Loki- wrote:
Adeptus. fething. Mechanicus.

Robot jawas with bad fluff don't even deserve a bazooka joe gum wrapper comic, let alone their own codex.

 BeefCakeSoup wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
Adeptus. fething. Mechanicus.

Robot jawas with bad fluff don't even deserve a bazooka joe gum wrapper comic, let alone their own codex.

But walking mushrooms with worse fluff deserve one?

Bad fluff has never held armies back from getting codices.

A new race just for the sake of it is useless. A new race needs to add some new element of play to the game.

The Sisters do not presently have a codex that can be purchased from GW, so they really dont have a codex for practical purposes.

The mechanicus can easily be represented by IG and one of several allies, you just have to convert your models.

Coming from Rogue Trader RPG and moving backwards, I'd say my ideal races would be, obviously, Rogue Trader, or my personal favorite, Rak'Gol

We have so so many, and they take so long to update as is.

I'd love more, but realistically? The updates will take forever and balance will be even harder to fix.

The galaxy is a phenomenally enormous place. Realistically, and in lore, there are innumerable races around that simply aren't large enough to play a part in galactic politics/warfare.

But that doesn't mean they don't exist and they aren't strong on an individual basis.

I'd be happy to see some more races in some kind of allies supplement, much like warmahordes mercs and minions.

I would love for them to start a "Regiments of Renown" style series of units for 40k. Start showing off some of the smaller alien races mentioned in the fluff.

I think it's about time that the Pan Fo got reviled.

If we got a new race, I'd imagine it would be Hrud. Forgeworld seems to be handling Adeptus Mechanicus stuff, and They don't want to really step on each others toes.

However, there are tons of outdated sculpts, and Sisters don't even have a real codex right now. Hopefully we start seeing some new sculpts, and sisters down the line. Once all that stuff gets sorted out, then we can start looking at new races.

I'd like to see them finish updating all the codexes to 6th. Then maybe a few supplement style codex addons, maybe different legions for CSM, more eldar ones, ect. Then once all that is done, and if they have time before 7th, they could think about a new race/codex.

Only if they plan on keeping up this pace of codex update in 7th and beyond though. If this is just another "we drastically changed the rules and now we have to catch everyone up", then probably not another race, as it would just slow future updates even more.

 Cieged wrote:
Alternatively, give the Sisters of Battle a respectable new Codex.

This. Seconded in a serious way. Also models.

 dementedwombat wrote:
There's not really that much they can add without just making a race up out of nothing. Tau worked, so the fanbase will tolerate it, but I feel like it's generally bad practice.

I'd be tempted to sell a kidney to get an Adeptus Mechanicus book published, but on the other hand the last thing I want is "Yet Another Imperial Codex". I guess there's always Hrud (space skaven pretty much).

For me the Tau just seem hugely out of place in 40k. GW has 'got science fiction in my science fantasy' so to speak. Unlike the other factions, they're not...
-hopelessly inefficient ("drive me closer so I can hit it with my sword!" "WAAAGH GET EM BOYZ" and so on)
-grimly dark
-particularly unique (they're kind of like a generic space alien faction from what I've seen)
-or fitting the aesthetic

I liked them when they were hopelessly naive, but apparently they ditched that in the new dex.

Necrons seem like a bit of an unnecessary add-on as well. Theres a few others I would give zero feths about should they dissappear but those two are the main ones. Point is, last thing we need is another generic sci fi aliens faction.

We need more generic sci fi aliens and less IoM codices

JWhex wrote:
A new race just for the sake of it is useless. A new race needs to add some new element of play to the game.

I'll just put this here for a second...
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/520612.page

you want them to add a new race and they cant even keep the ones they got up to date? We have what 5-6 races that are fully playable for 6ED (as in doesnt have a small chunk or large chunk of their codex being worthless because of 6ED new rules like anti-charge from reserve) or something? Thats a pretty crappy number compared to how many are available.

Sisters need help bad. Eldar just got reworked finally (dont have a dex, dont play anyone with them so i dont know if its good or bad). Tyranids are only good if they guessed your army right, they need more diversity in a single list. Orks are an assaulty army, yet the main lists are shooty because charging sucks right now...that needs to be fixed. Regular SM has no vibe to it compared to the other MEQs.
The list goes on. Fix what you got not add more, its not only easier but costs way less.

 Dakkamite wrote:

 dementedwombat wrote:
There's not really that much they can add without just making a race up out of nothing. Tau worked, so the fanbase will tolerate it, but I feel like it's generally bad practice.

I'd be tempted to sell a kidney to get an Adeptus Mechanicus book published, but on the other hand the last thing I want is "Yet Another Imperial Codex". I guess there's always Hrud (space skaven pretty much).

For me the Tau just seem hugely out of place in 40k. GW has 'got science fiction in my science fantasy' so to speak. Unlike the other factions, they're not...
-hopelessly inefficient ("drive me closer so I can hit it with my sword!" "WAAAGH GET EM BOYZ" and so on)
-grimly dark
-particularly unique (they're kind of like a generic space alien faction from what I've seen)
-or fitting the aesthetic

I liked them when they were hopelessly naive, but apparently they ditched that in the new dex.

Necrons seem like a bit of an unnecessary add-on as well. Theres a few others I would give zero feths about should they dissappear but those two are the main ones. Point is, last thing we need is another generic sci fi aliens faction.

I don't know, I think the Tau being the "only sane man" is kind of why I like them so much. In a whole galaxy full of over the top weirdness and chainsaw swords who am I? I'm a 5 ft tall blue skinned fish faced communist with a really big gun!

Ah well, suffice it to say that I find something about the Tau appealing. Something significantly different than the "ooh cool giant anime robots and space samurai" channel that seem to drive a lot of the Tau's popularity (seriously, why do they have katanas in the fluff pics? It's not like they'd know how to use them... if you want space anime in your 40k go Eldar )

The sisters need about as many new models as a new faction. I dont see GW redoing the sisters and adding a new faction anytime soon.

I dont think the Tau fit the game at all but apparently a lot of people do and it is an alternate aesthetic so the Tau probably are good for the game overall.

The Hrud would just be skaven in space and I dont think GW will go down the path of essentially adding another fantasy race to 40k, they said that is one reason for dropping the squats.

JWhex wrote:
The sisters need about as many new models as a new faction. I dont see GW redoing the sisters and adding a new faction anytime soon.

Though keep in mind that they've had a lot of time to do this already. They're not necessarily as far off as you're saying.

JWhex wrote:
The Hrud would just be skaven in space and I dont think GW will go down the path of essentially adding another fantasy race to 40k, they said that is one reason for dropping the squats.

Really, they're not space Skaven anymore. Google it.

Slaugth, Hrud, Rak'Gol, and Thyrrus, no more humans!

bit81 wrote:
Think its about time we get a new race as I feel like the old races are becoming a bit stale even with the new releases just not enough new things to bother with
Also think they should redo alot of there old models as they are looking a bit dire now

Any one else thinking this way or am I just goin bit nutz ?

No, you're not going nuts. You just happen to be too new to realize there are threads on this usually every week or so.

But seriously, no more new human factions. We need more Xenos. More xenos view point books. More xenos antagonists. More xenos video game campaigns.

Less Chaos and IoM, more aliens!

 Kain wrote:
But seriously, no more new human factions. We need more Xenos. More xenos view point books. More xenos antagonists. More xenos video game campaigns.

Less Chaos and IoM, more aliens!

How many more unique alien types are there? With good and evil space elves, space orks, giant bugs, utilitarian alien gunners, and undead mechanicals, what else is there that isn't going to seem to be a re-hash or mixture of these types?

Maybe Klingons?

I think they should update what they've got before introducing anything newer.

Fixing up the rules, would also help. The current ones suck.

We don't need another new codex, but different looks to units would be nice! Like with IG how there are many different flavours under the same rules. A new Xenos type race would be cool, just put it using an existing codex, just change the name and a look of a unit. Like Hrud would be cool, just put them under a codex that would work the closest.

 Troike wrote:

JWhex wrote:
The Hrud would just be skaven in space and I dont think GW will go down the path of essentially adding another fantasy race to 40k, they said that is one reason for dropping the squats.

Really, they're not space Skaven anymore. Google it.

You sure? I saw the "new hurd" picture, but in the new BRB you can clearly see a space shaven, in almost the same pose and with the same gun as the old nocturnal warrior picture.
Maybe they returned the space rats, maybe the two are the same race/faction, or maybe it was just an idiot inquisitor mixing up two xenon races...

 BoomWolf wrote:

 Troike wrote:

JWhex wrote:
The Hrud would just be skaven in space and I dont think GW will go down the path of essentially adding another fantasy race to 40k, they said that is one reason for dropping the squats.

Really, they're not space Skaven anymore. Google it.

You sure? I saw the "new hurd" picture, but in the new BRB you can clearly see a space shaven, in almost the same pose and with the same gun as the old nocturnal warrior picture.
Maybe they returned the space rats, maybe the two are the same race/faction, or maybe it was just an idiot inquisitor mixing up two xenon races...

Hmmm. Reading over the Lexicanum, it seems to be somewhat ambiguous. Though it is noted that GW has never said that they're Skaven in space.

Personally, I much prefer the more Lovecraftian look. It's unique and genuinely unsettling. Also, I think it's better if they get their own identity rather than just being space Skaven.

 cvtuttle wrote:

 Cieged wrote:
Alternatively, give the Sisters of Battle a respectable new Codex.

This. Seconded in a serious way. Also models.

Again, this. I am sure BT players don't like how old their codex is, but SoB don't even have a proper codex and all their models are metal ones! Before attempting to add more races (or mercenaries codex) they should update all their existing ones.

maybe they should just get rid of a few codexs altogether then
like some space marine chapters

Think if any race is going to get the dark eldar treatment of whole new sculpts and models it would be SoB looking at the lack of things they have and all metal but it could so easily go to just being deleted as well

Still say ditch some space marine chapters or combine them into one codex since lets face it they are all just diffrent colours rather than new sculpts and give us all better releases than the token releases we are getting

Space Marine releases don't take nearly as much work, simply because they share models. Re-launching Sisters of Battle is going to take way more effort than releasing new stuff for the Black Templars.

That said, I'll agree with Sisters "deserving" a new Codex the soonest, simply because it's annoyingly hard to get hold of the Codex and because said "Codex" didn't really give anyone anything new.

I think that there's too many humanoid armies in a game that is based in space where monsters and aliens could potentially exist like the races that everyone has talked about.

There's just so much potential for them instead of the same standard power armor space marines.