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Jacob29 wrote:
Can you add answers to the OP when you get them please.

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That's called if/when they publish the Games Workshop Eldar FAQ (or an updated version in this case, since they put out one already with a single errata).

Not sure what connections you think I have!

Honestly, I think they should post a few people on dakkadakka to read some of these questions and then update the FAQ's to answer.

I'd say they definitely keep an eye on forums like this, and once they have enough questions for a FAQ (and have very carefully considered and probably play-tested the answers) they put one out. Only thing worse than requiring an errata before the book is released is requiring errata for an errata document...

 yakface wrote:

Jacob29 wrote:
Can you add answers to the OP when you get them please.

???

That's called if/when they publish the Games Workshop Eldar FAQ (or an updated version in this case, since they put out one already with a single errata).

Not sure what connections you think I have!

He he I meant if someone here answers the question

Even if they get answered pretty well here it's probably a good idea to keep them in there - there's obviously quite a few instances of ambiguous wording in the new codex that need to be addressed, as these questions are cropping up in lots of places. Official FAQ gives everyone a final answer, whether they read Dakka or not

If a farseer or a spirit seer(with embolden) is with a shadowseer/warlcok and the shadowseer/warlock suffers a perils, does the shadowseer/warlock get to reroll from the presence of the farseer or the embolden spirit seer? (Kind of like the 4thed faq where the warlock with embolden helped a faseer reroll an unsuccessful psychic power attempt.)

GTKA666 wrote:
If a farseer or a spirit seer(with embolden) is with a shadowseer/warlcok and the shadowseer/warlock suffers a perils, does the shadowseer/warlock get to reroll from the presence of the farseer or the embolden spirit seer? (Kind of like the 4thed faq where the warlock with embolden helped a faseer reroll an unsuccessful psychic power attempt.)

Embolden doesn't give re-rolls anymore. It makes the unit Fearless (and Horrify gives an enemy unit -3LD).

I am guessing this is part of the reason why Warlocks can't join Wraith units now as they wouldn't want one rolling this power and it being half useless as the Wraiths are already fearless (although you could default to the Primaris Conceal in this case).

Of course, it could just be a typo or oversight on GW's part.

Jacob29 wrote:

 yakface wrote:

Jacob29 wrote:
Can you add answers to the OP when you get them please.

???

That's called if/when they publish the Games Workshop Eldar FAQ (or an updated version in this case, since they put out one already with a single errata).

Not sure what connections you think I have!

He he I meant if someone here answers the question

I think the purpose of the thread is to get a list of questions with no real obvious answer. The Scorpion's Claw question has a very obvious answer so while people may ask it, this list isn't meant to help with questions that are solved by reading single entries in the codex or rulebook.

Am I correct?

This can be filed under the probably easy to answer questions but worth adding. The power Death Mission says that while it is in effect the seer may not manifest other powers but may manifest Death Mission.

Does this mean this allow a seer with spirit stones to manifest it more than once in a turn?

steinerp wrote:
This can be filed under the probably easy to answer questions but worth adding. The power Death Mission says that while it is in effect the seer may not manifest other powers but may manifest Death Mission.

Does this mean this allow a seer with spirit stones to manifest it more than once in a turn?

No, you can't attempt to manifest the same power more than once in a turn. (BRB p.67) So you'll have to either roll well on counters or roll well on counter removal if you expect to survive long enough to cast it again.

Worthless damn power.

Like I said this is probably a simple question. The only question is because the power says you may manifest the power does that get around the once per turn limit. I doubt it but worth asking.

 rohansoldier wrote:

GTKA666 wrote:
If a farseer or a spirit seer(with embolden) is with a shadowseer/warlcok and the shadowseer/warlock suffers a perils, does the shadowseer/warlock get to reroll from the presence of the farseer or the embolden spirit seer? (Kind of like the 4thed faq where the warlock with embolden helped a faseer reroll an unsuccessful psychic power attempt.)

Embolden doesn't give re-rolls anymore. It makes the unit Fearless (and Horrify gives an enemy unit -3LD).

I am guessing this is part of the reason why Warlocks can't join Wraith units now as they wouldn't want one rolling this power and it being half useless as the Wraiths are already fearless (although you could default to the Primaris Conceal in this case).

Of course, it could just be a typo or oversight on GW's part.

Except that Spiritseers roll from the same spell tree haha

Here is another question...
Does the Exarch power crushing blow give a permanant S bonus or just added on... What I mean by this is say an Exarch Striking Scorpion takes Scorpion Claw would he hit at S 7 or 8.. I would argue 8 as I think it is a permanent S bonus, but I see this causing debate...
On the Same note would the Chainsword add +1 S since the claw is not a Specialist weapon ---- So would it be S8 or 9 depending on how you ruled the first question...

Huh, how'd that happen...

Anyway, I'd say yes, the S bonus from Crushing Blow is permanent, and no, very clearly not able to add the chainsword bonus to the Claw attacks.

And as for Warlocks and Wraith squads, I'd say they they disallowed Warlocks to give Iyanden something special with Seers, to be honest.

 Eiluj The Farseer wrote:
Here is another question...
Does the Exarch power crushing blow give a permanant S bonus or just added on... What I mean by this is say an Exarch Striking Scorpion takes Scorpion Claw would he hit at S 7 or 8.. I would argue 8 as I think it is a permanent S bonus, but I see this causing debate...
On the Same note would the Chainsword add +1 S since the claw is not a Specialist weapon ---- So would it be S8 or 9 depending on how you ruled the first question...

No way you can get both bonus from Claw and Chainsword. This has nothing to do with Specialist. However you do get +1A for 2 cc weapons but you'd have too even without a chainsword (pistol).
In my understanding characteristics bonus are included in a profile only when they are not removable in any way. A common example is eldar jetbike. +1T is already included for windraiders but it's not for warlocks, farseers and autarchs.
About profiles I think that the S bonus of the chainsword is not included, for subtle reasons, one of which could be scorpions exarch vs another exarch with disarm. More probably because you can swap that weapon.

About Claw+Blow I'd stick to RAW and brb (and general math), where it's said that moltiplications are before sums.
So 3*2+1 = 7. S7 ap2 at initiave is just good enough to me without asking for a FAQ. Maybe this will be addressed

Eldarcannon wrote:

In my understanding characteristics bonus are included in a profile only when they are not removable in any way. A common example is eldar jetbike. +1T is already included for windraiders but it's not for warlocks, farseers and autarchs.

True, but Warlocks, Farseers and Autarchs do get the +1 Toughness for riding a bike. Crushing Blow isn't a conditional Strength increase, it's permanent. If you had to make a Strength check on the Exarch, you'd make if off a S4, not an S3.

You make it at STR3+1 unless it asks for unmodified strength - in which case you use a 3.

 Eiluj The Farseer wrote:
Here is another question...
Does the Exarch power crushing blow give a permanant S bonus or just added on... What I mean by this is say an Exarch Striking Scorpion takes Scorpion Claw would he hit at S 7 or 8.. I would argue 8 as I think it is a permanent S bonus, but I see this causing debate...
On the Same note would the Chainsword add +1 S since the claw is not a Specialist weapon ---- So would it be S8 or 9 depending on how you ruled the first question...

The BRB answers this on page 2. The order of applying modifiers to characteristics is multiply, add/subtract, set values. The example in the BRB of a model with S4 and +1S with a power fist:
(4x2)=8, 8+1=9

So the +1 from Crushing Blow should be added after the doubling of the claw, not before.

The Avatar of Khaine is immune to all Pyromancy powers. Does this mean that he ignores the effects of Pyromancy blessings cast on other units? For example if my Space Marine Librarian casts Fiery Shield on himself and his unit, does the Avatar ignore the cover save granted by Fiery Shield, or does his immunity only apply to Pyromancy powers actually cast on him?

 Raesvelg wrote:

steinerp wrote:
This can be filed under the probably easy to answer questions but worth adding. The power Death Mission says that while it is in effect the seer may not manifest other powers but may manifest Death Mission.

Does this mean this allow a seer with spirit stones to manifest it more than once in a turn?

No, you can't attempt to manifest the same power more than once in a turn. (BRB p.67) So you'll have to either roll well on counters or roll well on counter removal if you expect to survive long enough to cast it again.

Worthless damn power.

You roll 6 times a turn with a 50/50 to drop a counter. You roll once a turn to get up to 5 counters. If you do the math, you should be averaging a little under +1 counter per turn. You actually have to be a bit unlucky for it to drop off.


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 alienvalentine wrote:
The Avatar of Khaine is immune to all Pyromancy powers. Does this mean that he ignores the effects of Pyromancy blessings cast on other units? For example if my Space Marine Librarian casts Fiery Shield on himself and his unit, does the Avatar ignore the cover save granted by Fiery Shield, or does his immunity only apply to Pyromancy powers actually cast on him?

Only those cast on him, RAW. RAI, only those cast on him *He* is immune to fire, nothing to do with anybody else. He doesn't have any special see-through-fire abilities.

Weapons with bladestorm auto wound on a 6 no matter the toughness of the creature you are shooting at.


"Bladestorm: When a weapon with this special rule rolls a 6 to wound, the target is wounded automatically and the wound is resolved at AP2. "

It never mentions a targets T it just states an autowound happens. Its like the necrons shooting ability only against enemies with a T value.

Just because I also play Tyranids:
How (if at all) does Disarming Strike work with Tyranid close combat weapons?

 Happyjew wrote:
Just because I also play Tyranids:
How (if at all) does Disarming Strike work with Tyranid close combat weapons?

My interpretation there - it says it has no effect on models without weapons, so I'd say you could use disarm to get rid of a bonescythe or lash whip, but not claws and teeth, talons or crushing claws etc. Only items that the enemy is actually holding. I'm sure there's relevant stuff with CD as well but I don't know them at all, so can't say...

If it's not a weapon Disarm does nothing, so Tyranids are safe because they don't have weapons.

 Happyjew wrote:
Just because I also play Tyranids:
How (if at all) does Disarming Strike work with Tyranid close combat weapons?

I thought page 33 meant you didnt have ANY close combat weapons?

The way I read it, if you have a close combat weapon listed in the wargear of the model, then it is a possible target for disarming strike.

otherwise if we're saying tyranids are immune then why not powerfists? it's not like he can knock it out of his hand.

Regarding Faolchu's Wing; the codex states that a model with Faolchu's Wing may run up to 48" and may not shoot or psych after it has done so, but does this ability transfer to the unit this model may be a part of or will the wing be useless in a squad?

Edited for clarity

 shamikebab wrote:
The way I read it, if you have a close combat weapon listed in the wargear of the model, then it is a possible target for disarming strike.

otherwise if we're saying tyranids are immune then why not powerfists? it's not like he can knock it out of his hand.

Because tyranids have a rule stating they do not use CCW? That rule, that I quoted, that makes them different to everyone else?

A powerfist is a CCW. Yes or No? Do 'nids use CCW, as defined in their codex? Yes or No?

Regarding Faolchu's Wing - again -- the move presumably ignores the effects of difficult terrain ? Be a bit awkward to roll for otherwise.

Dangerous terrain is ignored as well ?

Atra Culpa wrote:
Regarding Faolchu's Wing; the codex states that a model with Faolchu's Wing may run up to 48" and you may not shoot or psych after it has done so, but does this ability transfer to the unit this model may be a part of or will the bearer simply fly off on his own?

No, cannot fly off on their own, reread the rules for run (models move at own speed, but as it is a move must maintain coherency) and the ruls for when ICs are allowed to join and leave units (hint: it isnt int he shooting phase

This question should be removed as it is clearly and unambiguously answered in the BRB