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 Archonate wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Riptides as troops.

Not quite yet, but this is the inevitable future that will bring the galaxy under Tau rule.
A Riptide for every Fire Warrior.

Get with the program GW. Android is way ahead of Apple by virtue of the simple fact that it's not NEARLY as proprietary.
Android compatibility will cover a lot more bases, accessibility-wise, than Apple compatibility.
I would buy this if it were on Android. I highly doubt I'm the only one.
Nobody is going to drop the Benjamins for an iPad just so they can have your new book. (Especially when they have superior tablets which cost less.)


This is a tired argument and is all based on personal preference. That proprietary format, as has been discussed MANY times, is one of the primary reasons for GW to launch products on iOS.

Plenty of people "drop the Benjamin's" for an iPad for tons of other reasons. Whatever superiority you allude to is, again, purely based on personal preference.

 
   
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 cincydooley wrote:
 Archonate wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Riptides as troops.

Not quite yet, but this is the inevitable future that will bring the galaxy under Tau rule.
A Riptide for every Fire Warrior.

Get with the program GW. Android is way ahead of Apple by virtue of the simple fact that it's not NEARLY as proprietary.
Android compatibility will cover a lot more bases, accessibility-wise, than Apple compatibility.
I would buy this if it were on Android. I highly doubt I'm the only one.
Nobody is going to drop the Benjamins for an iPad just so they can have your new book. (Especially when they have superior tablets which cost less.)


This is a tired argument and is all based on personal preference. That proprietary format, as has been discussed MANY times, is one of the primary reasons for GW to launch products on iOS.

Plenty of people "drop the Benjamin's" for an iPad for tons of other reasons. Whatever superiority you allude to is, again, purely based on personal preference.
Actually, no - there are plenty of better tablets (spec wise, features wise) that cost less than the 'equivalent' ipad.

It's kind of apples thing, costing between 50% and 600% more than the equivalent not-apple product.

   
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 Ovion wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:
 Archonate wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Riptides as troops.

Not quite yet, but this is the inevitable future that will bring the galaxy under Tau rule.
A Riptide for every Fire Warrior.

Get with the program GW. Android is way ahead of Apple by virtue of the simple fact that it's not NEARLY as proprietary.
Android compatibility will cover a lot more bases, accessibility-wise, than Apple compatibility.
I would buy this if it were on Android. I highly doubt I'm the only one.
Nobody is going to drop the Benjamins for an iPad just so they can have your new book. (Especially when they have superior tablets which cost less.)


This is a tired argument and is all based on personal preference. That proprietary format, as has been discussed MANY times, is one of the primary reasons for GW to launch products on iOS.

Plenty of people "drop the Benjamin's" for an iPad for tons of other reasons. Whatever superiority you allude to is, again, purely based on personal preference.
Actually, no - there are plenty of better tablets (spec wise, features wise) that cost less than the 'equivalent' ipad.

It's kind of apples thing, costing between 50% and 600% more than the equivalent not-apple product.


And again, "better" is entirely subjective. Some prefer to pay for the stable platform, access to iTunes, etc.

 
   
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I have an iPhone and an iPad I have owned android and I would say that I think they are sh*t so that's my opinion

Back to topic,

I'm quite interested to this supplement and I hope that there is some battles that would allow me to use shadowsun and farsight together. I'm hoping for a chaos supplement to follow

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 Peregrine wrote:
Can't say I'm surprised by this. It was incredibly obvious that there was going to be a Farsight "supplement" the moment the Eldar one was announced. But I'm still not going to reward GW for cutting material from the codex just so they can sell it separately later.


They're starting to go the way of Day-1 DLC...

   
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 Azazelx wrote:
 Peregrine wrote:
Can't say I'm surprised by this. It was incredibly obvious that there was going to be a Farsight "supplement" the moment the Eldar one was announced. But I'm still not going to reward GW for cutting material from the codex just so they can sell it separately later.


They're starting to go the way of Day-1 DLC...

The Iyanden one was definitely stuff taken out of the codex. Stuff in that book could have easily been in the eldar codex. The Farsight Enclaves, one of the most under developed concepts in 40k kind of deserve a book of their own. Ill hate the price, but I'll get it if its in book format. If it isn't, they're idiots.
   
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I think this thread is now going in circles...

If you can keep your head, while all about you are losing their's, then you have probably completely misunderstood the situation!

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The Eldar Codex comes in at 105 pages. The Iyanden Codex had about 30 pages of fluff, 2 pages of general rules, 2 pages of Strategems, and a few scenarios. That would have expanded the Eldar Codex by over a third, just on one Craftworld. No doubt then other Craftworld players would be wanting their own sections. If they all had about equal sized sections, then the Eldar Codex would have been over double in size and higher in price. Of course then some might then be complaining of having to pay increased price for Craftworlds they don't play.
   
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Iracundus wrote:
The Eldar Codex comes in at 105 pages. The Iyanden Codex had about 30 pages of fluff, 2 pages of general rules, 2 pages of Strategems, and a few scenarios. That would have expanded the Eldar Codex by over a third, just on one Craftworld. No doubt then other Craftworld players would be wanting their own sections. If they all had about equal sized sections, then the Eldar Codex would have been over double in size and higher in price. Of course then some might then be complaining of having to pay increased price for Craftworlds they don't play.


Or maybe they could have kept it at the same price, and it wouldn't seem as ridiculous for once.
   
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 Fafnir wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
The Eldar Codex comes in at 105 pages. The Iyanden Codex had about 30 pages of fluff, 2 pages of general rules, 2 pages of Strategems, and a few scenarios. That would have expanded the Eldar Codex by over a third, just on one Craftworld. No doubt then other Craftworld players would be wanting their own sections. If they all had about equal sized sections, then the Eldar Codex would have been over double in size and higher in price. Of course then some might then be complaining of having to pay increased price for Craftworlds they don't play.


Or maybe they could have kept it at the same price, and it wouldn't seem as ridiculous for once.

So they have doubled the content but kept the price the same?

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 BryllCream wrote:
So they have doubled the content but kept the price the same?

Instead they doubled the price and kept the content the same

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 BryllCream wrote:
 Fafnir wrote:
Iracundus wrote:
The Eldar Codex comes in at 105 pages. The Iyanden Codex had about 30 pages of fluff, 2 pages of general rules, 2 pages of Strategems, and a few scenarios. That would have expanded the Eldar Codex by over a third, just on one Craftworld. No doubt then other Craftworld players would be wanting their own sections. If they all had about equal sized sections, then the Eldar Codex would have been over double in size and higher in price. Of course then some might then be complaining of having to pay increased price for Craftworlds they don't play.


Or maybe they could have kept it at the same price, and it wouldn't seem as ridiculous for once.

So they have doubled the content but kept the price the same?


Considering the price of the books and what we're getting now, they could do a fair bit more than doubling the content, and that still wouldn't be unreasonable.
   
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I still don't know how people have detailed knowledge of the inner workings of GW and know for a fact that the rules and fluff in the Iyanden and further suppliments were in their respective codexes to begin with.

It's really amazing that I was writing great Iyanden lists day 1 and then theyre all like "Man, don't you know that they didnt even put your rules in your codex?"

And I was all like "Woah, wait...you mean I can't play a fully themed Iyanden army untill this suppliment hits shelves because it's required to paint your Eldar yellow or play Wriathguard?"

And they were all like "YUUUUP!"
   
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UltraPrime wrote:
I think this thread is now going in circles...


This isn't the Iyanden supplement thread?

Oh do I go to the eldar thread to read about the Farsight supplement...

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T'would seem likely that a physical release of this tome will be available in October.

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October? That's quite the gap between digital and physical product release.

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 Sidstyler wrote:
October? That's quite the gap between digital and physical product release.


Not entirely surprising given all the stock problems they've had. I can believe that an october release date is the first opportunity they'll get to put it into the printing schedule. And of course the fact that they can sell lots of high-profit-margin digital copies to people who don't want to wait is just a nice bonus...

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Well, I'll be glad to have it as long as it has decent fluff and new artwork all rolled into a new beautiful book. I really enjoyed reading the Iyanden book so here's hoping for another good book!

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 reds8n wrote:
T'would seem likely that a physical release of this tome will be available in October.

Is this a random guess or do you have info on that?

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yeah,
Seems strange to leave it soo long , lots of people myself included don't want to buy digital. ibook or pdf...

I only buy paper copies, so GW will have to wait till october to get my money.
And with the availablity of pdf versions they are taking quite the gamble that I'll still be interested in picking up a hard copy of something I've probabily already read 3 months earlier...

Panic...


   
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Hmmm...wonder if it'll be on nook/kindle format before then. I'm definitely interested in this. Otherwise I guess I'll wait till October to get my hard copy while someone tells me the two pages of rules

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Wooooo yay!! I hope Farsight gets more overpowered.

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 Hulksmash wrote:
Hmmm...wonder if it'll be on nook/kindle format before then. I'm definitely interested in this. Otherwise I guess I'll wait till October to get my hard copy while someone tells me the two pages of rules


I went to my GW today and asked the same question; apparently they were flirting with the idea of putting it on ebook format and used Iyaden and some of the smaller books out there to test the market. Supposedly they prefer to release codexs first on Apple because of the stricter DRM. Though with the physical copy of Farsight coming in October, I'm not sure if the three month gap period is just to 'test the water' or what.
   
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Isnt the eldar codex on epub?

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Isnt the eldar codex on epub?


My mistake, it seems its Eldar and not Iyaden on epub/mobi.
   
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 victorydeluxe wrote:
Supposedly they prefer to release codexs first on Apple because of the stricter DRM.


Oh good, the idiots at GW are still hiding their heads in the sand and pretending that DRM actually does anything to prevent a copy of the book being posted within 15 minutes of release. I'm so glad that paying customers are restricted to the ipad so that people who are going to pirate the book have to wait a few minutes for someone to break the DRM.

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 Archonate wrote:


Get with the program GW. Android is way ahead of Apple by virtue of the simple fact that it's not NEARLY as proprietary.
Android compatibility will cover a lot more bases, accessibility-wise, than Apple compatibility.
I would buy this if it were on Android. I highly doubt I'm the only one.
Nobody is going to drop the Benjamins for an iPad just so they can have your new book. (Especially when they have superior tablets which cost less.)


While this wasn't the case when they first released digital product, it probably was when the first started planning it.


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By the way, this thing is up for pre-order now.... In ebook format


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http://www.blacklibrary.com/games-workshop-digital-editions/Farsight-Enclaves.html


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I just pre-ordered the digital product and got the following; Available to download from 20/07/2013

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ERJAK wrote:


The fluff is like ketchup and mustard on a burger. Yes it's desirable, yes it makes things better, but no it doesn't fundamentally change what you're eating and no you shouldn't just drown the whole meal in it.

 
   
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From there Black Library page:

Also included are new missions and rules to use with your Tau Empire collection in games of Warhammer 40,000, so you can re-enact the great victories of the Enclaves, and lead commander Farsights’ elite battlesuit cadres to glory.

I highlighted the part I am most intrested in as if I can take an all battlesuit army then this supplement will have by itself got me back into 40k
   
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An all battlesuit army would definitely get me to throw all my money at the Tau instead of my daemons.

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