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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 12:42:24
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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I know this may be a duplicated thread, so if it seems that way please remove.
I recently posted up a question about how people user their Aegis Defense Lines. Now I am wondering what is the best to man the gun behind the lines? Whether it be a Quad Gun or an Icarus Lascannon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 12:43:01
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Telion or Fast Shot Avatar easily I would say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 12:46:15
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Illic maybe?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 12:56:18
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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What army are you even playing?
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Space Wolves: 3770
Orks: 3000
Chaos Daemons: 1750
Warriors of Chaos: 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 13:05:07
Subject: Re:Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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I have to go with Fastshot Avatar on an Icarus, even better if you spring for it and give him Marksmen.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 13:33:35
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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I am playing Chaos, but I was thinking out of all armies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 13:39:03
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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My favorite is BT termie squad with dual CMLs and tank hunters.
4 TL S7 shots with interceptor, skyfire and reroll to pen is awesome.
If there aren't any flyers then you can shred stuff on the board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 14:00:54
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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If you're rolling with the quad-gun, you don't need anything better than BS5. And if you're running Chaos, Daemons get cheap Heralds who are BS5. A Nurgle Herald and some Plague Bearers on a home objective behind the line. Herald controls the gun while the whole unit sits comfortably back with a 2+ cover because of the defense line and Shrouded.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/07/31 14:01:13
Space Wolves: 3770
Orks: 3000
Chaos Daemons: 1750
Warriors of Chaos: 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 14:02:21
Subject: Re:Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Cosmic Joe
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SOB Retributer squad. With act of faith the quad gun will become rending.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 14:21:52
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Battleship Captain
Oregon
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I'm a sucker for either Bloodletters or Warpsmith. Both are BS5 and both have some resistance to Heldrakes while being right around 100 points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 18:24:04
Subject: Re:Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Darkstrider on an Icarus Lascannon will Instant Death anything T5 or lower.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 19:07:17
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Lelith Hesprex on a quadgun ignores armorsaves and has high BS.
The 4++ might save her from heldrakes but she might get ID as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 19:17:41
Subject: Re:Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Cadre Fireblade. 60 points. Split fire. BS5. Buffs the hell out of the firewarrior squad he is with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 19:20:34
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Furious Raptor
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Exergy wrote:Lelith Hesprex on a quadgun ignores armorsaves and has high BS.
The 4++ might save her from heldrakes but she might get ID as well.
Dark Eldar FAQ clarified that the penetrating blade only allows her close combat attacks to ignore armour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 19:23:43
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Sheokronath wrote: Exergy wrote:Lelith Hesprex on a quadgun ignores armorsaves and has high BS.
The 4++ might save her from heldrakes but she might get ID as well.
Dark Eldar FAQ clarified that the penetrating blade only allows her close combat attacks to ignore armour.
booo
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 20:16:12
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Raging Ravener
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We made it this far into the thread without anyone mentioning the Vindicare Assassin on an Icarus? BS8, he picks who dies. Ironically the only time he's better off using his rifle is for Turbo Penetrating tanks.  (Or against T8+)
Fast Shot Dark Reaper Exarch is better than Fast Shot Avatar though, as he ignores jink...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 20:32:24
Subject: Re:Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Regular Dakkanaut
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In the last Eldar Dex - Fuegan
Ignores Cover. Re-rolls Wounds. Re-rolls Pens. 2+ Save FNP, and a BEAST in CC. Sadly the glory days are over.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 22:01:44
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Executing Exarch
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BunnyCommando wrote:We made it this far into the thread without anyone mentioning the Vindicare Assassin on an Icarus? BS8, he picks who dies. Ironically the only time he's better off using his rifle is for Turbo Penetrating tanks.  (Or against T8+)
Fast Shot Dark Reaper Exarch is better than Fast Shot Avatar though, as he ignores jink...
+1 for this.
Illic can be pretty good as well for sniping wargear out of squads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 22:12:00
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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Grots!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 22:19:18
Subject: Re:Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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D6Damager wrote:Darkstrider on an Icarus Lascannon will Instant Death anything T5 or lower.
Dark strider, in a squad with fire warriors
with a commander that has a MSSS, C&CN, CHIP and whatever else you want
its a bs 5 twinlinked ignore cover tank hunter/monster hunter that can insta gib t 5 models.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 22:59:23
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Xenohunter with First Contact
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Wilytank wrote:If you're rolling with the quad-gun, you don't need anything better than BS5. And if you're running Chaos, Daemons get cheap Heralds who are BS5. A Nurgle Herald and some Plague Bearers on a home objective behind the line. Herald controls the gun while the whole unit sits comfortably back with a 2+ cover because of the defense line and Shrouded.
If you're playing Chaos Space Marines, you can't take heralds in an allied detachment of Daemons.
"Each Primary detachment in your army may include up to four Heralds of Chaos." -P94 daemon Codex.
"All of the units in your primary detachment must be chosen from the same codex." -P109 BRB.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/07/31 23:17:07
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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Bigfashizzel wrote: Wilytank wrote:If you're rolling with the quad-gun, you don't need anything better than BS5. And if you're running Chaos, Daemons get cheap Heralds who are BS5. A Nurgle Herald and some Plague Bearers on a home objective behind the line. Herald controls the gun while the whole unit sits comfortably back with a 2+ cover because of the defense line and Shrouded.
If you're playing Chaos Space Marines, you can't take heralds in an allied detachment of Daemons.
"Each Primary detachment in your army may include up to four Heralds of Chaos." -P94 daemon Codex.
"All of the units in your primary detachment must be chosen from the same codex." -P109 BRB.
I think that means that you can only take one Herald in your allied attachment's HQ slot. It doesn't explicitly say "No Heralds for allied attachments".
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Space Wolves: 3770
Orks: 3000
Chaos Daemons: 1750
Warriors of Chaos: 2000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 01:06:02
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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BunnyCommando wrote:We made it this far into the thread without anyone mentioning the Vindicare Assassin on an Icarus? BS8, he picks who dies. Ironically the only time he's better off using his rifle is for Turbo Penetrating tanks.  (Or against T8+)
That would be because it's 145pts for a model that isn't good at doing anything else in the current meta as you have already pointed out, and because Ignores Cover is too prevalent now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 01:11:01
Subject: Re:Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I think that the Avatar with fast shot is better than the dark reaper exarch because of the BS 10. Just more reliable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 02:37:33
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Dark reaper exarch with fast shot..
2x Str9 Ap2 shots at 2+ to hit
Between intercept and no jink saves alowed (reaper range finder) =win!!
It mean the avatar can be out front shooting tanks with his melta where he belongs!! Automatically Appended Next Post: toocool61 wrote:I think that the Avatar with fast shot is better than the dark reaper exarch because of the BS 10. Just more reliable.
First he HAS an antitank gun.. And for near 200pts "back of the mob" is a criminal waste!!
Second taking the jink save is important..
Third you should be precognitioning/ whatever psychic power gives you rerolls.. Since that's all BS10 gives you..
So the points of a fast shot avatar you jus got a lot more shooty and a psycher to boot (Avatar of course being ALOT more survivable..)
Did I mention no jink saves?
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2k (lotsa spiders) 3k (lotsa LR's)
Why are basic Guardians BS4 when firewarriors train from birth? Cause by the time your best warriors die of old age Eldar haven't even been laid!!
kestril wrote:
Page 1: New guard topic
Page 2: FW debate
Page 3: Ailaros and Peregrine fight. TO THE DEATH
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 02:49:50
Subject: Re:Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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Illic attached to a reaper squad.
BS9, splitfire, all shots are precision, gives reapers shrouded, reapers give him reaper rangefinder (ignores jink).
Hits a 2+, misses reroll to 3+.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 02:59:07
Subject: Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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chaos aspiring champions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 05:25:53
Subject: Re:Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Gwyidion wrote:Illic attached to a reaper squad.
BS9, splitfire, all shots are precision, gives reapers shrouded, reapers give him reaper rangefinder (ignores jink).
Hits a 2+, misses reroll to 3+.
Wait I thought range finders were items that effected per model basis.. How does it confer to the squad?
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2k (lotsa spiders) 3k (lotsa LR's)
Why are basic Guardians BS4 when firewarriors train from birth? Cause by the time your best warriors die of old age Eldar haven't even been laid!!
kestril wrote:
Page 1: New guard topic
Page 2: FW debate
Page 3: Ailaros and Peregrine fight. TO THE DEATH
I swear I think those two have a hate-crush on each other sometimes. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 05:46:15
Subject: Re:Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Another vote for Telion.
I also like putting a Dev squad in it, using the signum with the Quadgun. Stacked with whatever other heavy weapons are in the unit, they tend to kill stuff pretty easily.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/01 05:47:30
Subject: Re:Best unit/character to man Quad Gun/Icarus
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Calm Celestian
Windsor Ontario Canada
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MWHistorian wrote:SOB Retributer squad. With act of faith the quad gun will become rending.
Agreed and they are pretty cheap compared to the other choices here.
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