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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:45:43
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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The top halfs looks Great IMO, Now I just neeed to fiqure out how to make the bottom decent.
Im thinking armored up terminator legs. I got some laying around frm models I dont use
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:46:32
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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scarletsquig wrote: Ouze wrote:
it's been discussed at some length in the last 10 pages, it is a fake.
I've seen a lot of people posting that it is fake, but no actual evidence.
I remember this exact same discussion when the first pics of the pumbagore were out, everyone cried fake but it wasn't!.
What do you want, an in-depth investigation?
It's a fake. Move on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:47:20
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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Alpharius wrote:
They do look better with a helmet, but now I just noticed that one variant of the new helmets suffers from Extreme Frowny Face.
So, they'll look better with a helmet, certainly, just not... that helmet! 
You too would look that angry if you needed to go to the washroom when encased in that, or is it just wearing it would make you that angry?
The power waddling would create motion sickness like nobody's business.
They are marines however: made of sterner stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:47:47
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
On the Internet
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scarletsquig wrote: Ouze wrote:
it's been discussed at some length in the last 10 pages, it is a fake.
I've seen a lot of people posting that it is fake, but no actual evidence.
I remember this exact same discussion when the first pics of the pumbagore were out, everyone cried fake but it wasn't!.
Well first we have these little details:
Also, how would someone have an early leak of the digital WD that no one else has?
And then there is this:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:48:11
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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scarletsquig wrote: Ouze wrote:
it's been discussed at some length in the last 10 pages, it is a fake.
I've seen a lot of people posting that it is fake, but no actual evidence.
I remember this exact same discussion when the first pics of the pumbagore were out, everyone cried fake but it wasn't!.
Buried somewhere in the previous pages there's a link to an already existing model that looks pretty much exactly like this, except for the right arm, which looks just like a WW variant from FW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:48:33
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Kanluwen wrote: scarletsquig wrote: Ouze wrote:
it's been discussed at some length in the last 10 pages, it is a fake.
I've seen a lot of people posting that it is fake, but no actual evidence.
I remember this exact same discussion when the first pics of the pumbagore were out, everyone cried fake but it wasn't!.
What do you want, an in-depth investigation?
It's a fake. Move on.
I think that thinking the model is not fake is fake for thinking that. Suprised no mantic bombs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:48:53
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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scarletsquig wrote: Ouze wrote:
it's been discussed at some length in the last 10 pages, it is a fake.
I've seen a lot of people posting that it is fake, but no actual evidence.
I remember this exact same discussion when the first pics of the pumbagore were out, everyone cried fake but it wasn't!.
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/278011-new-codex-space-marines-rumor/page-23#entry3414910
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:50:41
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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OK, I have to get this off my chest, with all this "Well that's, just, like, your opinion, maaan." stuff floating around.
Yes, whether or not you, as an individual, like something, is an opinion.
However.
It is possible to enjoy something which is also objectively poorly executed. These models are static, they conspire to give off the impression that they would be incapable of walking without tripping over their own feet, there doesn't appear to be any way for them to actually use their ludicrously oversized weapons-on-top-of-other-weapons without snapping the suit pilot's spine like the Hammer Industries demo from Iron Man 2.
Everyone seems capable of accepting that you can subjectively appreciate objectively bad things when it comes to movies, music, and other forms of media, even art, that king of hipsterish subjectivity, but for some reason with models, nobody is ever allowed to say anything negative without a gigantic floating flashing neon sign over their head that reads "IMO".
For example, Terminators; they're great, I really like them, but they're objectively stupid because the pilot must either be a hunchback with his head between his pecs, or a man with a broken spine and dislocated shoulders. Admitting that there are objective flaws with those models does not diminish my subjective enjoyment of them, because I don't feel obligated to consider any negative opinion of something I like as a personal attack.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:51:04
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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There's also the fact that that missile launcher is from the Forgeworld Horus Heresy Whilrlwind, and as a result has a different aesthetic than anything GW prime puts out. GW hasn't put out a gun that looked like that since Rogue Trader. That and yeah, it's an obvious robot from Votoms and not a GW-designed thing. I think it's pretty conclusive that it's bogus and somebody's having fun with gullible forumgoers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:51:38
Subject: Re:Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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No one's ever watched Votoms?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:51:53
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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What possible evidence could be produced, or needed, to rebut the fact that that is a VOTOMS mecha with a Ultramarines Drop Pod bit glued to it's shoulder and a forge world gun on the right arm?
To put it differently; here is a rumor. I heard that Games Workshop has licensed out 40k to make a cartoon. Here is a leaked image of a Necron lord.
Prove that's not a hoax.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:53:39
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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mattyrm wrote: Hey I hated those gakky centurions as well, but cincy is right, dakka is one big pity party at the moment, 75% of the site seems to be impotent rage and fury against GW.
I do not have impotent rage and fury!!!! It is quite potent and I thought I was being so responsible in this forum... oh, not me specifically, carry on then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:54:51
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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mattyrm wrote: Ouze wrote: cincydooley wrote:Oh wait, so you're saying there could potentially be a very vocal minority on Dakka?
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
That can't be true.
No, I'm simply saying no matter how you can say "the opinion is 50/50", I'm showing that is not true. With math.
If you wish to now move the goalposts as is your wont, be my guest.
Hey I hated those gakky centurions as well, but cincy is right, dakka is one big pity party at the moment, 75% of the site seems to give helpful and constructive criticism because they care.
Fixed your typo. According to what some people have said, that is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:55:16
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Stubborn Hammerer
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I'm offering free tin foil hats for every conspiracy theory discovered today!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:55:28
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Ouze wrote:
What possible evidence could be produced, or needed, to rebut the fact that that is a VOTOMS mecha with a Ultramarines Drop Pod bit glued to it's shoulder and a forge world gun on the right arm?
To put it differently; here is a rumor. I heard that Games Workshop has licensed out 40k to make a cartoon. Here is a leaked image of a Necron lord.
Prove that's not a hoax.
Dude, if only this was true. I would jump around with joy if my Necron Lords were THAT guy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:55:48
Subject: Re:Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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What amazes me is that I get a greater sense of dynamism from the full-on Dreadnoughts than I do from the Centurions. Depending on how easy it is to adjust the poses on these things, I could see them being good or bad. Fix the poses a bit, add some weathering to reduce the toy factor a bit, and they could be some nice looking models. As it is, those pictures don't do anything to make me want to buy the product (beyond the standard OMG NEW SPACE MARINE GAK that always gets me.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:58:07
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Ouze wrote:
What possible evidence could be produced, or needed, to rebut the fact that that is a VOTOMS mecha with a Ultramarines Drop Pod bit glued to it's shoulder and a forge world gun on the right arm?
To put it differently; here is a rumor. I heard that Games Workshop has licensed out 40k to make a cartoon. Here is a leaked image of a Necron lord.
Prove that's not a hoax.
Dude I'm down for ten of those. More of my money spent on none gw stuff in the future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 15:58:23
Subject: Re:Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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How do we know they're static? For all we know they've got posable joints like the Contemptor Dreadnoughts and the Riptide.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 16:00:26
Subject: Re:Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Kanluwen wrote:Those are just as bad as the Centurions.
And it's good to see you take yet another opportunity to plug Mantic.
You realize that those are Mantic's Terminator equivalent, right? And that the proportions are absolutely awful
No their not and whats wrong with saying you like a brand Kanluwen?
You just hate Mantic, trying to keep your post count up, or trying to be relevant and active outside the Infinity topic? ; P I kid… Sort of.
Kanluwen just likes to argue with people…a rare prototype, never mind him. I’d buy those mantic models over the Centurions any day.
I’m dying to see the Sternguard… really surprised they made no dual kits for foot troop.
Sekai wrote:And I think you are the one with bad taste, lordofthegophers. These will look great beside cataphractii terminators, with some light modifications of course. We haven't even seen other angles, or weapon options, but I have to say, so far I like these. Hopefully the redone space marines are more than just a new sergeant sprue that contains a new special weapon.
What I'm curious about is the 30 dollar Captain/Librarian. Is it possible they may be wearing the Centurion armor? Would explain the price.
No the vast majority says garbage…
But Maybe the character kits do have extra parts maybe even builds that would be a good thing. Extra Chaplain heads couldn’t hurt.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 16:01:21
Subject: Re:Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Is it bad I want to buy the Centurions for the pure purpose of painting them like the stay puff marshmallow man?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 16:01:46
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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The Daemon Possessing Fulgrim's Body
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mattyrm wrote:
Hey I hated those gakky centurions as well, but cincy is right, dakka is one big pity party at the moment, 75% of the site seems to be impotent rage and fury against GW.
It shouldn't be a surprise that, on a site that has a very heavy GW, nay, 40K slant, when pictures of a new kit for their biggest selling line appear and are widely condemned as being fairly gakky, there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth?
For the record, I'm, apparently uniquely, ambivalent about them. If they're good in game, I might buy some, otherwise meh.
Helmets should be compulsory though.
PS
Kanluwen You reckon they've made them much bigger so they can be more creative?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 16:06:44
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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I wonder if you removed the crotch guard on the Centurions, would it look more dynamic and mobile? Part of the problem (to me at least) seems to be that you have the heavily armored legs, and the loin guard bit kinda visually blends in to look like an extended lower torso.
If that were gone, it might allow for a more dynamic pose, and make it look more symmetrical.
For bonus points, you can then put a chapter symbol over their junk like a guy wearing an octopus codpiece at a Renn-fest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 16:07:13
Subject: Re:Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Lansirill wrote:What amazes me is that I get a greater sense of dynamism from the full-on Dreadnoughts than I do from the Centurions. Depending on how easy it is to adjust the poses on these things, I could see them being good or bad. Fix the poses a bit, add some weathering to reduce the toy factor a bit, and they could be some nice looking models. As it is, those pictures don't do anything to make me want to buy the product (beyond the standard OMG NEW SPACE MARINE GAK that always gets me.)
I hope the armor plates on the legs are removable, they look the worse. If you can remove the armor and add some other types on it, they would be so cool
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 16:07:57
Subject: Re:Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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MilesBergs wrote:Is it bad I want to buy the Centurions for the pure purpose of painting them like the stay puff marshmallow man?
Only to the extent that it GW will take it as a message that people like them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 16:08:04
Subject: Re:Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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5deadly wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Those are just as bad as the Centurions.
And it's good to see you take yet another opportunity to plug Mantic.
You realize that those are Mantic's Terminator equivalent, right? And that the proportions are absolutely awful
No their not and whats wrong with saying you like a brand Kanluwen?
You just hate Mantic, trying to keep your post count up, or trying to be relevant and active outside the Infinity topic? ; P I kid… Sort of.
Kanluwen just likes to argue with people…a rare prototype, never mind him. I’d buy those mantic models over the Centurions any day.
I’m dying to see the Sternguard… really surprised they made no dual kits for foot troop.
Sekai wrote:And I think you are the one with bad taste, lordofthegophers. These will look great beside cataphractii terminators, with some light modifications of course. We haven't even seen other angles, or weapon options, but I have to say, so far I like these. Hopefully the redone space marines are more than just a new sergeant sprue that contains a new special weapon.
What I'm curious about is the 30 dollar Captain/Librarian. Is it possible they may be wearing the Centurion armor? Would explain the price.
No the vast majority says garbage…
But Maybe the character kits do have extra parts maybe even builds that would be a good thing. Extra Chaplain heads couldn’t hurt.
You don't go to a Ford dealer to try and buy a Chevy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 16:13:12
Subject: Re:Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Spacemanvic wrote:OMG, those Centurions:
What the heck was GW thinking? They look like a Space Marine in a full body cast or a chick with thunder thighs.
Ewww, no!
I second that. I dont know if I would ever use the new centurion models. The next tank on the other hand it pretty cool looking imo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 16:13:43
Subject: Re:Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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MilesBergs wrote:Is it bad I want to buy the Centurions for the pure purpose of painting them like the stay puff marshmallow man?
I approve of Stay Puff
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 16:15:36
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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azreal13 wrote: mattyrm wrote:
Hey I hated those gakky centurions as well, but cincy is right, dakka is one big pity party at the moment, 75% of the site seems to be impotent rage and fury against GW.
It shouldn't be a surprise that, on a site that has a very heavy GW, nay, 40K slant, when pictures of a new kit for their biggest selling line appear and are widely condemned as being fairly gakky, there is much wailing and gnashing of teeth?
For the record, I'm, apparently uniquely, ambivalent about them. If they're good in game, I might buy some, otherwise meh.
Helmets should be compulsory though.
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Kanluwen You reckon they've made them much bigger so they can be more creative?
Cute. Cute.
But again you have simply proved my point. There is no way to be creative when creating new infantry types.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 16:16:30
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Sekai wrote:And I think you are the one with bad taste, lordofthegophers. These will look great beside cataphractii terminators, with some light modifications of course. We haven't even seen other angles, or weapon options, but I have to say, so far I like these. Hopefully the redone space marines are more than just a new sergeant sprue that contains a new special weapon.
What I'm curious about is the 30 dollar Captain/Librarian. Is it possible they may be wearing the Centurion armor? Would explain the price.
These things look like garbage. They're clunky, very limited in posing, and don't fit well with current Space Marine Aesthetic, unless you are comparing them to the Apoc marines that were just released. As a Space Marine player, I should not have to buy Cataphractii Terminators in order to make something that GW sells look good. If I wanted something with the curves of a Cataphractii Terminator, I'd buy a Cataphractii Terminator...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/08/08 16:16:51
Subject: Codex: Space Marines.first pics page 21
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Ouze wrote:
What possible evidence could be produced, or needed, to rebut the fact that that is a VOTOMS mecha with a Ultramarines Drop Pod bit glued to it's shoulder and a forge world gun on the right arm?
To put it differently; here is a rumor. I heard that Games Workshop has licensed out 40k to make a cartoon. Here is a leaked image of a Necron lord.
Prove that's not a hoax.
That got an exalt.
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