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*kick kick kick*

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I hereby kick you as well. I want to see more of The Everliving. Those conversions are just perfectly wicked, and I haven't seen any painted yet >:-[

I'm not dead yet.

I've been off this thread for a few weeks, as I've had everything flipped since I had a baby. I have been working here and there though. Just so you guys know, I haven't forgotten about you or abandoned this project. I have practically finished all these guys up. A couple of them still need some gap filling and extra grenades glued in place, but for the most part they are done and I have begun some serious work on their rhino. I can only get a little done at a time, but I am working on busting this out quickly.

I have also put together an initial 1500 point list that I will strive towards building. I'll post that soon. I've ordered some more bits to warp the forthcoming wave of reinforcements these blokes will receive. Last night I happened to find another set of Possessed shoulder pads, so that will help immensely. So much to do and all my time is stolen away by my baby (could be so much worse, I suppose). So, to leave you guys salivating a little bit longer, here is a nice little peek of all but one of Squad 1's backpacks ready for paint.


(The one not included has the dangling chains and it will be on a stand of its own. )

Seriously big things are going to be happening in this space in the next month or so. Stay tuned, fellas! I appreciate you following along and fully accept any questions, comments, or criticisms.

Well, chains look great, and I especially like the one with the HUUUGE Chaos Spiky Star

Good luck on mixing family & hobby time

Thanks Yggs. I'm juggling already! If I didn't have company staying in my house non-stop I could probably bust out more. Oh well.

The one with the star is for the AC and it does a great job of bulking him out and making him look more intimidating.

I bet he will (AC, uh ) !!

Alright, getting more minor things done here and there, I need to ask a question though.

In the last pic I posted (with all the back packs), the two packs on the right are from MaxMini and they are resin. Do I need to scrub them with soap and water before painting? I don't think I have ever painted resin materials and feel like I recall that they need to be scrubbed. Can anyone shed some light on this for me?


As I said, I will present to you my tentative CSM list. I know it's not competitive. I'm more for fluff and the rule of cool. But if I have miscalculated or misinterpreted a point value, by all means feel free to point it out or offer up any alternatives.



HEADQUARTERS

Warpsmith.
(110)


TROOPS

Csm x 10
Plasma gun x 2
Icon of vengeance
Champion
power fist
Plasma pistol
Melta bombs.
+ rhino
Destroyer blades
Dirge caster
(295)

Csm x 10
Melta gun x 2
Champion
+ rhino
Havoc launcher
(207)


FAST ATTACK

Raptors x 5
Meltagun x 2
Champion
Melta bombs
(120)


ELITES

Terminators x 5
Autocannon
Lightning claws
Chainfists x2
Icon of vengeance
(248)


HEAVY SUPPORT

Havocs x 5
2x ML w/ flakk
2 x autocannon
(145)

Havocs x 5
2x ML w/ flakk
2 x autocannon
(145)

Land raider
(230)


TOTAL 1500


Just have some gaps to fill on my first CSM squad. Rhino details are coming along nicely. Waiting on just a few bits for the interior and should be able to post some WiP pics soon, but don't want to bore too many of you, as there are plenty of WiP Rhino pics on Dakka. Next up I'm going to go ahead and build my 5 man Raptor squad, since I have all the components. Afterwards I may move straight on to my termies, but don't know if I have the right bits for all 5 of them.

Much more to come!

Thanks for looking and I always appreciate any comments.

Looks like a nice list !

1. I'm not sure Dakka allows for such level of details regarding army lists... I think you should just write, for instance : Havocs x5, 2xMLw/Flak, 2xAC (145) but no item-per-item point costs...

2. Where will the Warpsmith go in battle ? No room in any of the Transports, so will he join a Havocs Squad ?

3. Well, there ARE a lot of Rhino pics on Dakka... But we want to see yours nonetheless !!

Thanks,

1. Thank you. Copied it from elsewhere and it was a huge oversight on my part. Hopefully caught it soon enough that I won't get a smack from Lego.

2. I haven't fully decided, but I kind of picture him trecking along as support where needed or following behind the raptors. I have noticed he's kind of left in the dust.

3. I'll post some pics soon. In-laws leave today, so I can get cracking at a better pace.

Well, having ID'd a DE Lord with a single plasma shot in my last game, I HAVE to tell you than "trekking along" or "following behind" is definitely NOT a good place to be for an IC...

You have been warned.

Haha good point.

Pesky kids, starting new threads when I'm off......

Nice work Moltar, some great conversions on these guys.

Congrats on the additional unit you've added to your family too

No comments on the list as I haven't a clue

Thanks monkey! Glad your along for the ride and thanks for the compliments.

I have a clue that it's a pretty rubbish looking list , but should look great on the tabletop or, most likely, a shelf. I just want my chaos space marine army to have chaos space marines.

Great conversions.

On second thought, couldn't you remove 1 Marine from the melta squad?
It would prevent you from taking a second melta, but would free up points to offer a combi-melta to the Aspiring Champion & HQ, in addition to leaving room for the War(p)smith in their Rhino...

@Prophet Thank you!

@Yggs I like that idea and yeah, I definitely could do that, which is why I magnetized the champ in the beginning, so that I would have options. I'll look at my list and codex again, but since I don't really have anyone to play against it's not a huge deal. If I get to the point that I go beyond 1500 points I'd consider additional or alternative HQs as well.
As it is, he's kinda stuck on his own (where he will die) or he has to keep my Havocs company or try and stay behind a rhino wall. None of these are all that viable though, so I'll definitely consider attaching him to squad 1 if I actually get to the point of playing.
Thanks for the input, Yggs! I truly appreciate it.


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@Yggs: See below for alternate combi melta arm. Always wise to plan ahead, I suppose.



He has also had a head swap since the last time he popped up in here.



Other musings and ideas are reaching out to me from the warp and I think I have a convincing 3 arm build for one of my terminators. ( I know I'm way ahead of myself)...


(((Ignore the blob of blue tac)))
Adding shoulder spikes may be over the top or may be straight-up awesome. Will play around with it some more when I get the chance.

Managed to add some liquid GS where I needed too and assuming it has done its job, the squad is done, except for their bases. So, here's hoping things look good when I get home.

Concerning the Rhino build, I am going with something similar to this one, which is NOT MY RHINO. It is the third pic in this post from Styrofoam's Red Corsair blog.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/540/349389.page#6160930

The black one. What I'm going for is the look of the top hatches, the lowered headlights, and the three-prong ram. I'm not crazy about the smoke launcher placement and I am unsure if I want to add the WoC shields on the sides. I already have 4, just not sure I want to use them or not. I'm not 100% sold on that idea. I also have tossed the idea around about using the smaller gargoyle heads in place of the smoke stacks, but haven't decided on that either. This morning I was working towards magnetizing the top, so that it is removable. It was coming along, but not without some difficulties.

As for my raptors, who should assemble relatively quickly (I'm hoping) they're technically up next. Two will have meltas, champion will have two chainswords for looks, one will have chains and hooks to scoop people up with and the other little terrorizer will have this menacing beast of a buzz saw:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/555272.page#6104038

Designed by dakka's Malika2 and ordered through Shapeways. It's pretty fething rad and as soon as I can, I'll get some pics of it in the hands of one of my Raptors.

Things keep happening. I'll try and take as many pics as I can and I am always open to questions and comments!

Thanks for looking

 Moltar wrote:
@Yggs I like that idea and yeah, I definitely could do that, which is why I magnetized the champ in the beginning, so that I would have options. I'll look at my list and codex again, but since I don't really have anyone to play against it's not a huge deal. If I get to the point that I go beyond 1500 points I'd consider additional or alternative HQs as well.
As it is, he's kinda stuck on his own (where he will die) or he has to keep my Havocs company or try and stay behind a rhino wall. None of these are all that viable though, so I'll definitely consider attaching him to squad 1 if I actually get to the point of playing.
Thanks for the input, Yggs! I truly appreciate it.

I think dropping a 13-pts Marine with his 10-pts Meltagun should free up just enough points for two Combi-weapons (be they 5 or 10pts each)

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@Yggs: See below for alternate combi melta arm. Always wise to plan ahead, I suppose.

He has also had a head swap since the last time he popped up in here.

Like that version... Looks great !!

Other musings and ideas are reaching out to me from the warp and I think I have a convincing 3 arm build for one of my terminators. ( I know I'm way ahead of myself)...

Adding shoulder spikes may be over the top or may be straight-up awesome. Will play around with it some more when I get the chance.

Love that claw... Is that from a Skaven Abomination ?

The pronged, stabby claw is actually one of the few decent bits from the dreaded Chaos Forsaken kit for WHFB. That's where that shoulder pad comes from too and the pincer claw is from a daemonette.

Oooh sure, I knew I had seen it recently...

Looking good so far Moltar.

Looking at your list the only thing I would change would be to drop the flakk missiles they really are a waste of points, your better off just ignoring flyers then spending the points on flakk missiles. That should free up the points for the combi melta.

@Gir I'm not sure where else I'd use those few points (not that I couldnt find a place), but do you really not shoot at flyers? I can't fathom ignoring them altogether just to save a few points. I am seriously asking though. I don't have any experience playing, so I truly am curious.


Not too much to report. Unfortunately, no pics either.
What I have done is assembled Squad One completely. I am having a little difficulty working out some details on one of these fine gents' helmets, but other than that, they are done. Still unsure about washing/scrubbing those maxmini backpacks, so I'm still looking for an answer on that. Progress on the rhino, hopefully pics tomorrow. Frame is coming together. Magnetizing the roof was a success. Now I just have to play around with hatches, details, and ornaments.

I've been slightly distracted by the Junk Pile Competition. Working on that, but thinking of leaving my WiP pics in the dark

I'm not expecting it to get too far in the way of this CSM project though. I was hoping to get some bits in the mail by today, but it seems hoardobits wanted to sit on their butts and not get my order out until 7 days after I placed it. Grr!!! So, my supply drop is due in on Thursday, but tomorrow is my day off! The horror! I'll make it through. As soon as I get a decent pic of my rhino (even with the tiniest bit of "Moltar" flair), I will post some pics.

Thanks for looking! More pics soon!

Flakk missiles arent very good and are well over priced, if I wanted to tackle flyers I would use a quadd gun or heldrake.

I agree that they are expensive. I just don't know about fitting in a quad gun and I'm not really sold on the drake. If I dropped all the the flakk missiles and dropped one of the melta guys in squad 2 (as per Yggs' suggestion) it would free up 53 points. Not sure where I would spend it but that gives me a lot more options. It also gives me at least one more addtional thing I have to buy or convert.



Alright!

Hard to fit in too much (if any) hobby time while dealing with a newborn, but I managed to get a little more work on my rhino done, so I'll share the progress I've made.

This is essentially the look for the front:


Nothing too crazy or anything. I like the star in that awkward corner and the three pronged ram will look better once the back brace is thinned down and it appears more sunken in with the tracks on the sides. I may add some chain to the front to hang in the negative space, but I don't want it to look cheesy.

For the top, I've gone with this side vent.


I think it adds a little character and mixes it up from the standard look. It is from the included predator turret plate. It's been removed from the circle it was attached too and filed down. It needs just a little bit more filing to even out the hatch side of it. For the side without the vent, I'm thinking of adding some kind of prisoner/slave/future-cultist tow cable that runs down the side and off the back. Essentially a tow cable, but bloody and with several smaller, people-sized hooks, not one large tank/truck hook.

Here's the initial look of the rear:

I think I may wrap chain around the entire chaos eye block and have it strapped to the top and bottom of the door, without affecting the closure or hinge at the bottom. Not sure. It's not glued in place or anything yet.

I'm going to go against the gargoyles that I debated using in place of the exhaust pipes. I like the look, but I think I may just postpone it for another rhino or not use it. Once those exhaust pipes are gone they will never come back the same.

Although The Everliving are gifted with mutations, I aim to keep my vehicles mutation free. I prefer the look of dark gritty war engines that harbor these mutant maniacs opposed to a mutant tank. Just so you know what to expect.

Thanks for looking and reading! I realize that it isn't the most exciting or awe-inspiring update.

Minor Update:



I've begun removing/sanding/filing/scraping away on my raptors, who should come together pretty quickly and easily. I have pretty much settled on a final build for my Junk Pile for the terrain competition and I have been trodding along on my rhino. I've come up with some more ideas and would love to hear your thoughts.


I figure that for the most part, less is more. So I thought that I may add some simple trophy chains like this:


These WoC bits scale much better than the clunky chain bits that come with the tank accessories. I can also add some of the metal chain I've used on the marines in place of some of these bits.


Then I was tinkering around and came up with this:



I can't recall seeing this done before, but I'll tell you why I like it. It's different. It's imposing and doesn't appear to be too cartoony. But what I think I like best about it, is the idea of the CSMs exiting the rhino underneath this trophy rack, like gladiators entering a pit. Skulls and giblets hanging overhead as the sounds of battle roar to life.

Here's another angle:


Am I crazy? Does it not look cool? Does it look dumb or too OTT? I would love to hear some opinions on it or see examples of someone else who has done this.

I'm liking the idea Could also work at the bottom of the door as a running board type affair, or one top and bottom as part of sponsons for a predator. I say go for it.

And yes you are crazy....but what's wrong with that

Looking good. I'm happy to think that there may be a nice looking non Waac CSM army in the area soon. There are a few older guys around charleston who have painted stuff and enjoy casual games, so no need to shelve the Everliving.

@Monkey: I like that idea too. I don't know if it would work on the bottom also, because I think it would awkwardly block the door. I'll check when I have the chance.

@ Strom: I hate that CSM WAAC is just anti-fluff. Nurgle Biker Lords and robo-dinosaurs. If I wanted to do Robo-Dinos I would have converted an entire army of awesome looking, power armored raptors and stegosauruses.

Stay tuned. Hope to get some decent hobby time in this weekend.

For now, I will leave you with a WiP sneak peek of the inside of my current rhino/death machine:




More fun and gore to follow!

The inside of that rhino is unnerving. Rally enjoying the progression of this project.

Myles

Chaos Marines gotta have somewhere to eat!

Thanks for the kind words, Myles. Hope to keep progress moving along at a somewhat steady pace.

Hey man! Awesome stuff. Do you have an update on what you did with the buzz saw? Very curious to see that one.