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Isn't the new price for a 10 woman box still less than what they ask for 10 current finecast models (without command)?

I know it's not much of a consolation, but still.

So why exactly do they think they can charge that much for 10 plastic witches and almost half that for 10 plastic warriors? Thats almost as bad as the sternguard/vanguard pricing. It would be interesting to see how many suckers bought into those instead of simply doing a super minor conversion to make cheaper ones. I think Ill be sticking to corsairs and buying some hydras. I only need to update a few things for my army anyway.

Hate to say it but I am really concerned that GW is pricing itself out of the hobby. How exactly is their teen base target going to be able to afford their products, especially in this economy. Especially when you have newer and much better priced games like Bolt Action, Warzone and Warmahordes either out and kicking ass or coming out shortly?

Col. Dash wrote:
So why exactly do they think they can charge that much for 10 plastic witches and almost half that for 10 plastic warriors?

Because they can and they know people will lap it up.

Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

Col. Dash wrote:
So why exactly do they think they can charge that much for 10 plastic witches and almost half that for 10 plastic warriors?

Because they can and they know people will lap it up.

I actually don't know a single person who wants these models because of the prices.

 Red Comet wrote:

Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

Col. Dash wrote:
So why exactly do they think they can charge that much for 10 plastic witches and almost half that for 10 plastic warriors?

Because they can and they know people will lap it up.

I actually don't know a single person who wants these models because of the prices.

If the rules are good enough, they'll sell.


Can't see them being £40 myself. £35 maybe, £30 more likely.

Col. Dash wrote:
So why exactly do they think they can charge that much for 10 plastic witches and almost half that for 10 plastic warriors?

They want an excuse to say "See, nobody wants to buy female models at twice the price"?

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Isn't the new price for a 10 woman box still less than what they ask for 10 current finecast models (without command)?

I know it's not much of a consolation, but still.

It is. It is actually a price decrease from current models.

I'm looking at the Wyches box in frustration though.

GW has got to be getting close to a lot of folks breaking point now mind, these hidden price launches in the new releases where a bit annoying, but to raise them each release is madness.

If they really are £40 for ten I suddenly have serious doubts on starting Druchii, and I was about to drop £500-700 on a new army in the next two months, but not if that's only getting me half the models I should be expecting.

Awesome models.. but the tagline for WFB might as well be

"Those seeking to start a new army look elsewhere. " due to how prohibitive prices are because you need 30 models in a unit or more.

Basically this is why the game is dead where I am.

 pretre wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Isn't the new price for a 10 woman box still less than what they ask for 10 current finecast models (without command)?

I know it's not much of a consolation, but still.

It is. It is actually a price decrease from current models.

Except that part where they are now CORE. At $6/model they cost nearly as much as Cold One Knights.

People keep talking about how they area cheaper than finecast, but who was buying the finecast ones?

They will be hands down the most expensive core infantry models.

At this price point I'd much rather use other alternatives, if for no other reason than spite. GW can feth themselves if they think that price is reasonable.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
I'm looking at the Wyches box in frustration though.

GW has got to be getting close to a lot of folks breaking point now mind, these hidden price launches in the new releases where a bit annoying, but to raise them each release is madness.

Witches are a price decrease. At least in the US, they were $33 for 5 right now. So that's a 10% DECREASE.


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 Aerethan wrote:
Except that part where they are now CORE. At $6/model they cost nearly as much as Cold One Knights.

People keep talking about how they area cheaper than finecast, but who was buying the finecast ones?

They will be hands down the most expensive core infantry models.

At this price point I'd much rather use other alternatives, if for no other reason than spite. GW can feth themselves if they think that price is reasonable.

Okay, but that's a different point. Are they expensive for core? Sure. Did prices increase? No.

 pretre wrote:
Witches are a price decrease. At least in the US, they were $33 for 5 right now. So that's a 10% DECREASE.

90% of stupid expensive is still stupid expensive.

 AlexHolker wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Witches are a price decrease. At least in the US, they were $33 for 5 right now. So that's a 10% DECREASE.

90% of stupid expensive is still stupid expensive.

That's fine but is, again, a different point.

You want to say they are stupid expensive? That's true. You want to say there's a price increase? That's false.

silent25 wrote:
Dark Elf army book: $US 49.50 $AU 83 $NZ 98
Dark Elves Battle magic: $US 6 $AU 8.5 $NZ 10
Shadowblade: $US 20 $AU 22 $NZ 26
Dreadspears: $US 35 $AU 45 $NZ 50
Witchelves: $US 60 $AU 70 $NZ 80
Hydra: $US 65 $AU 70 $NZ 85
Cauldron: $US 75 $AU 80 $NZ 95

Kroothawk wrote:I can confirm that it is indeed 10 models each for the Witch Elves and the Warriors with Bleaknames.

That pricing is simply mind-boggling; what could possibly justify the fantasy version of 40k wyches being more than twice the price and warriors being $6 more, in each case for the same amounts and in a system that requires large numbers of infantry?

At $6 per model, Witches would be more expensive then the (very nice) Scourges and Hellions.

 pretre wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Witches are a price decrease. At least in the US, they were $33 for 5 right now. So that's a 10% DECREASE.

90% of stupid expensive is still stupid expensive.

That's fine but is, again, a different point.

You want to say they are stupid expensive? That's true. You want to say there's a price increase? That's false.

We can ignore entirely what the old cost was, because the old rules were different, and thus their use was different.

Why are 16 spearmen $35 for one army, 20 clanrats the same price, $24.75 for 10 empire soldiers, and now $35 for 10 Bleaklulzmen. All of these are core models, and all are plastic. Then you take the same army, and now 10 models for the elite infantry run $41.25 per 10. Clearly an increase in cost, but you'll also likely be running fewer of these models in an army, so it's not the end of the world.

These Witch Elves are defying the entire concept by costing more than ANY plastic infantry GW have ever released, let alone any Core models. Hell Space Marines got a brand new tactical kit with 180 pieces for 2/3 the cost. Now granted those will sell far more, but that is a back end issue.

At $60 per 10, I won't buy direct, I won't even buy at my 30% discount. I'll use Warzone or some other company for those models.

I'd sooner track down a full set of Diaz Daemonettes and pay $12 per model than give GW the sale for these.

Col. Dash wrote:
So why exactly do they think they can charge that much for 10 plastic witches and almost half that for 10 plastic warriors?

Apparently there's a premium fee for half-naked women.

 pretre wrote:


You want to say they are stupid expensive? That's true. You want to say there's a price increase? That's false.

Remove the ridiculously overpriced finecast they are replacing out of the equation and then compare them to Wyches, a comparable amount of plastic and that's where I have issue.

Obviously the Wyches would probably be £20ish now, I was prepared to accept the £30 shadow Warriors level pricing, aye it is price gouging compared to the other plastic out there, but I could deal with it. £40 on the other hand would literally be a bad joke.

Hopefully UK prices will confirm £30 tomorrow, otherwise I can't see me doing anything other than shelving my Druchii plans. That's not because I couldn't afford it, but because I won't reward that level of stupidity.

 Aerethan wrote:
We can ignore entirely what the old cost was, because the old rules were different, and thus their use was different.

You can. However, if you do, you're not talking about price increases. You're talking about their current price relative to the other core units in the game. Are they stupid expensive? Yes. Was there a price increase? No. I don't disagree that these are ridiculously expensive. I get that. I agree. Buy alternatives if you want. But don't say they are more expensive than they were previous to this release. They aren't. They are cheaper.


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 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Remove the ridiculously overpriced finecast they are replacing out of the equation and then compare them to Wyches, a comparable amount of plastic and that's where I have issue.

I completely agree. Comparatively, they are more stupidly more expensive than other similar models. But they did not suffer a price increase.

I don't believe I've said once that they are more expensive than their previous models.

But model costs in this game are not isolated to just the models. The rules affect that cost significantly. And when a model moves from Special to Core, then the old prices can be ignored entirely when looking at overall cost in the game.

Spearmen got a 62.5% increase in price. I wouldn't be surprised if Corsairs get a raise as well.

Now granted, Spearmen did also nearly double in points, so we'll need fewer of them in general to hit the 25% mark, so there's that.

Just been flicking through the new white dwarf, have to say not overly fussed on the new elf stuff now i have seen non blurry pics. the Hydra looks good, but the COB, looks a little over the top. Should see them in person on Sunday so will reserve full judgement till then.

Uk Prices are.

Cauldron of blood / Bloodwrack shrine £45

Dark Elves Kharibdyss / War Hydra £40

10 X Dark Elves Dread Spears / Darkshards / Bleak Swords £20

10 X Dark Elves Witch Elves / Sisters of Slaughter £35

Dark Elves Battle Magic £3.50

Shadow Blade £12

Dark Elves Shield Pack £5.80 for 10

 cerbrus2 wrote:
Just been flicking through the new white dwarf,

Confirm the SOB/BA Digidex?

10 X Dark Elves Witch Elves / Sisters of Slaughter £35

So ~$56 for 10? Still stupid spendy but even cheaper than the current.

I think I drew the line at Greatswords; granted the witch Elves have the optional SoS parts, but still too much for me.

Damn, but those are the best looking dark elves ever!

I imagine the witches require much more sprue space than warriors. Even with 3 weapon options, the pose of the warriors should fit 10 men in a very compact frame.

 pretre wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Isn't the new price for a 10 woman box still less than what they ask for 10 current finecast models (without command)?

I know it's not much of a consolation, but still.

It is. It is actually a price decrease from current models.

It fits the pattern they've had for some time now. I get that the price seems very high, but I'm not sure why people are really surprised...

Like has been mentioned, i wouldnt be surprised if corsairs go up in price too. Then we know GW are (still) massive jerks.

Glad I bought 60 of these when they were 5 for $7. Don't know how you could afford them today.



Plus I have about 80 of these, which I think look much better than the new ones, happy I can break them out again!



The new corsairs were so nice I was really hoping the warriors would get that kind of treatment.

 RossDas wrote:
I think I drew the line at Greatswords; granted the witch Elves have the optional SoS parts, but still too much for me.

It's funny, I've held off on buying another box of Greatswords for a long time, but with these prices they all of a sudden look reasonable. Tempted to buy now before prices go up on everything. Perhaps I should just buy up everything now, hoard it under my mattress, and ebay it three years when we're all used to being charged $60+ for a box.

It's a pity, too, because I really do like the DE models...though I wonder how the Witches will look all ranked up.

 pretre wrote:

 cerbrus2 wrote:
Just been flicking through the new white dwarf,

Confirm the SOB/BA Digidex?

10 X Dark Elves Witch Elves / Sisters of Slaughter £35

So ~$56 for 10? Still stupid spendy but even cheaper than the current.

Yes SOB and BA are mentioned SOB have new rules updated to 6th edition with Warlord traits, and BLood angels are mentioned having just new 360 degree photos and auto updating rules, Nothing else for them.

 cerbrus2 wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 cerbrus2 wrote:
Just been flicking through the new white dwarf,

Confirm the SOB/BA Digidex?

Yes SOB and BA are mentioned SOB have new rules updated to 6th edition with Warlord traits, and BLood angels are mentioned having just new 360 degree photos and auto updating rules, Nothing else for them.

Awesome! Thanks.