Dark Elf rumours (now includes pics of all 2nd wave models)

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**Red Viper**

The Cauldron looks like it may be annoying in combat too. Those front stairs are going to be in my opponents second rank. Hopefully there's more space at the back of it..

I still like that model though. Reminds me of a vagina on wheels.

**KoganStyle**

kb305 wrote:

can gw just buy dungeons and dragons drow elf IP? cause drow are cool but GW "dark elves" kinda suck. just sayin.

The official (well we shall see if the new edition does away with it) term for the Dark Elves is Druchii. Drow is lame.

Such a shame GW has messed this release up, after the Dark Eldar overhaul I had high hopes of adding stuff to my force, even with GW's astronomical pricing. But as others have pointed out, the cost of the boxes combined with the ugly models makes it a total no go.

**Col. Dash**

Hit up bartertown. My army is now complete again bar the hydra kit and got 57 corsairs and witches for less than 100 bucks heheh some still NIB.

The cover looks nice except for the jarringly huge helm crest on the guy. Any one that fights him just has to do a powerful over the shoulder shot and you just broke the elf's neck. Its the combat fighter in me, you wear as streamlined a helm as possible to glance shots. Decorations like feather plumes are worn on the back of the helm. Japanese helms are an exception but only leaders wore big head crests, they were destructable(meaning they sheer off on a hit instead of dragging the head), meant to be seen so they could lead, and were not expected to go directly into combat.

**fasterthanlight**

Col. Dash wrote:
Hit up bartertown. My army is now complete again bar the hydra kit and got 57 corsairs and witches for less than 100 bucks heheh some still NIB.

The cover looks nice except for the jarringly huge helm crest on the guy. Any one that fights him just has to do a powerful over the shoulder shot and you just broke the elf's neck. Its the combat fighter in me, you wear as streamlined a helm as possible to glance shots. Decorations like feather plumes are worn on the back of the helm. Japanese helms are an exception but only leaders wore big head crests, they were destructable(meaning they sheer off on a hit instead of dragging the head), meant to be seen so they could lead, and were not expected to go directly into combat.

And come to think of it, elves don't even exists... hogwash, the lot of it!

**Col. Dash**

It isnt so much that its fantasy that bugs me. I can suspend reality on a lot of thngs. I just see these silly things like over the top head gear(more than even the usual GW OTT head gear) and in addition to combat, how does this guy fit through the woods, go through doors, ride or fight in formation and so forth. Even taking the helm off is problematic, how the hell does he carry it and still do something? It isnt like he can just put it under his arm or strap it to his mount. You get a couple of these guys together and you have the Three Dark Stooges banging into each other any time they turn their heads to talk to each other.

**pretre**

Col. Dash wrote:
It isnt so much that its fantasy that bugs me. I can suspend reality on a lot of thngs. I just see these silly things like over the top head gear(more than even the usual GW OTT head gear) and in addition to combat, how does this guy fit through the woods, go through doors, ride or fight in formation and so forth. Even taking the helm off is problematic, how the hell does he carry it and still do something? It isnt like he can just put it under his arm or strap it to his mount. You get a couple of these guys together and you have the Three Dark Stooges banging into each other any time they turn their heads to talk to each other.

Wizards.

Or more serious, semi flexible materials. You know there's real-life hats like that that people wore right?

Spoiler:

**Adder Ant**

Nice release. Like everything except the hydra, but the rest looks fantastic to me

**gorgon**

Yeah, those helmets are completely out of control given the normally realistic scaling in their minis and art. Humanoids are supposed to be about 4 heads tall wielding 7 ft long weapons, right?

**pretre**

gorgon wrote:
the normally realistic scaling in their minis and art.

Ha! Oh wait, you were serious. Heroic scaling, remember?

**kendoka**

KoganStyle wrote:
Such a shame GW has messed this release up, after the Dark Eldar overhaul I had high hopes of adding stuff to my force, even with GW's astronomical pricing. But as others have pointed out, the cost of the boxes combined with the ugly models makes it a total no go.

IMHO: This release is amazing.
OK, so I don´t like the Kharibdyss and the new warriors is kinda meehh (but still an instant buy as the old ones were horrible)- but the rest is top notch.

I especially like the Cauldron of Blood - and Medusa will get her own ride (as soon as I have added snake hair to my current Cauldron of Blood):

I have already ordered one of each from my local store and will pre-order the ltd armybook as soon as it is available.
Cannot wait until wave 2.

**Galanur**

I know very few about dark elves but of the new models I´ve seen I simply cannot like the hydra as much as the previous metal variation, the remain stuff looks awesome and really nice posing but the hydra... i dunno just ugh...

**The Fragile Breath**

That's one damn fine Cauldron you've made there. Well done. Personally, I can't wait for pre-orders to go up so I can get a better look at the Warriors. I know I'm for sure in for a book (want the limited, but should probably put that money towards a box of Witch Elves instead) and a Hydra, we'll see what else, and I still am super excited for wave two. Dark Riders had better be gorgeous!

**Mr Morden**

@ Kendoka - thats awesome

Will def be buying the Witch Elves and the sweet Medusa - don't play WFB but can't resist these lovelies

**gorgon**

pretre wrote:
gorgon wrote:
the normally realistic scaling in their minis and art.

Ha! Oh wait, you were serious. Heroic scaling, remember?

Oh sure, dead serious. I also think that Mat Ward's fluff is totally over-the-top compared to the rest of the subdued, nuanced 40K universe.

**Blood Hawk**

I am really liking the cover art for the army book. I have always liked the DE model range, and these new models are looking really good.

**Kroothawk**

KoganStyle wrote:
kb305 wrote:

can gw just buy dungeons and dragons drow elf IP? cause drow are cool but GW "dark elves" kinda suck. just sayin.

The official (well we shall see if the new edition does away with it) term for the Dark Elves is Druchii. Drow is lame.

That is wrong. Druchii is the name the Dark Elves call themselves (and some High Elves do as well). But in current fluff, even many High Elves call them Dark Elves.
BTW my Dark Elf army is Drow themed

Another thing: UK and US customers need a reason why they should pay the same price for 10 new warriors as for 16 old ones?
The new ones are in fantastic monopose to give you the full modular possibilities of ... monoposing them (like the fantastic new monopose Witch elves)

:

Clockwork over at Warseer wrote:According to the White Dwarf, the Warriors are completely monopose. Legs, head and body are all attached in one single piece.

Also:

BramGaunt over at Warseer wrote:Got some infos on the new stuff today.

Kharybdis is WS 5, 5A, S7, T5, 4+AS. If all attacks hit, it deals an aditional d6 s7 attacks

Warhydra is s5, 5wounds. A is equal to number of remaining wounds +3. its a special choice

RBB is switched to special

Crossbowmen retain the option for shields
Bloodwrack shrine and cob are a chariot, which may narch and join units. Cob has a bound spell for frenzy and grants the unit he joins a 6+ ws (5+ in case of witchelves)

Bloodwrack medusa has a 4 shot s4 shooting attack wirh killing blow, and is monstrous infantey (s and t 4)
Models in b2b suffer a s4 hit with killing blow if they fail an i test

Sisters of slaughter gain a bonus to hit and to wound if their opponent has a higher ws ir strength. Their 4+ ward save only applies in close combat. They negate enemues ranks for combat resolution.

It was hinted that black guard and executioners will be more expensive.

(...)
Concerning the Witch Elves Kit:

I was told that anything stopping you from building 10 Witches and 10 sisters from one kit are extra legs. Everything else might be in twice - heads, arms, torsos, weapons. So if you happen to have fitting legs, from, say wytches, wood elf warriors, you might be able to get 20 Models out of that box. I know, it's a small comfort, but might still be something for you.

Oh, and, the Crossbow men are called Dreadthorns, if I recall correctly...

librerian_samae wrote:Picked up white dwarf, a few interesting bits not bought up before-

the medusae are sorceresses cursed by the goddess Atharti for being too beautiful, they don't have blood dripping FROM them rather they constantly ooze blood from festering sores.

Also the sisters of slaughter ritually shave their heads and use the hair to weave their whips from.

**S'jet**

So multi-part plastic kit now means.... you can stick the arms on yourself.

**The Fragile Breath**

Kroothawk wrote:

Another thing: UK and US customers need a reason why they should pay the same price for 10 new warriors as for 16 old ones?
The new ones are in fantastic monopose to give you the full modular possibilities of ... monoposing them (like the fantastic new monopose Witch elves) :

Clockwork over at Warseer wrote:According to the White Dwarf, the Warriors are completely monopose. Legs, head and body are all attached in one single piece.

That is... Most confusing.

Why update ugly core models and do such a half-assed job?

**grimdark83**

So the Cob grants frenzy and a 6+ ward? so its almost worthless in a WE army? greeeaaaat

**Kanluwen**

S'jet wrote:
So multi-part plastic kit now means.... you can stick the arms on yourself.

Oh please. Let's not pretend that the previous kits really gave you a lot of freedom in terms of how things worked.
I would take monopose that rank up without having to label them over supposedly multipose that can really only be assembled and ranked up a few ways.

**Kroothawk**

The Fragile Breath wrote:
That is... Most confusing.
Why update ugly core models and do such a half-assed job?

That's easy: Price hike!

**bu11etmagn3tt**

I am really liking the new Dark Elves. So much so I am selling off my excess painted khorne units & some 40k stuff & aliens stuff http://www.ebay.com/sch/bu11etmagn3tt/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from= in order to put together an all (nude) female DE army! ......and I am also in the middle of putting together an Ogre Pirate Army from Titan Forge.... Maybe I can ally the two?

**Medium of Death**

So... GW haven't put their orders up at midnight as per... what gives?

**Sidstyler**

Monopose plastics, seriously? Sorry but I fail to see why exactly we're expected to pay the premium price then. If the new warriors were $20 a box it would be great, I wouldn't care, but for what they want they need to do better than that.

**Kroothawk**

Preorders are up:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCatsLarge.jsp?catId=cat440004a&rootCatGameStyle=wh

Limited edition:

Battle Magic Cards

**Bloodhorror**

omg!

that medusa has an actual breast and nipple showing!

Damn that god Slaanesh for making the Daemonettes so covered up...

**S'jet**

Now we know why they made Witch Elves £35 for 10.... they look even more awesome with proper pics. Im surprised the Corsairs are still £15.50.

**Scrub**

The Hydra painting competition...

Maybe HQ weren't happy with the paint job either

All joking aside, GW are interacting with their userbase and furthermore I'm really enjoying the new pics? Sacrebleu! These DE models look great imo, it's really whet my appetite for the elite infantry and fafst cav models that are yet to come

edit:- Wow! Some seriously nice Dark Eldar conversion fodder amongst that lot too, can't wait to see what some of the more creative 40k players come up with!

**bu11etmagn3tt**

Sidstyler wrote:
Monopose plastics, seriously? Sorry but I fail to see why exactly we're expected to pay the premium price then. If the new warriors were $20 a box it would be great, I wouldn't care, but for what they want they need to do better than that.

Damn, that is weak.

**S'jet**

Hopefully pics of the others will pop up soon, assuming they will be pictures in the Book.