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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 15:18:08
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bristol
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£15 for 8 models that you can get at 20% off in online retailers is hardly £35 for 10 plastic models.
anyway, ks exc green placy martians...
details here...
http://kck.st/1dZkxeb
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 15:21:09
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Black Nexus wrote:£15 for 8 models that you can get at 20% off in online retailers is hardly £35 for 10 plastic models.
Neither is it £18 for 10 hard-plastic, multi-pose models with 15 different heads, nearly 30 different weapon options, etc.., etc.. that, of course, you can also get at 20% off in online retailers.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440233a&prodId=prod900151a
Either way, I doubt it would bankrupt them to add an extra 2 minis to each team-box to allow basic league play without tricking people into buying another team box (or team-booster) for an extra mini or two.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 15:32:37
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Might be handy for someone... If I have anything wrong let me know Escalation Expansion Individual @ $50 Saucer $20 Truck $20 6 Science Division $15 6 Novas Vira $15 Rule book - Natalya $8 Esteban $8 2 Ruined Scenery Sprues $12.5 Total $98.5 ( 97% extra) Martian Mayhem Robot $30 Marines $15 Stealth marines $15 Blaine $8 $68 (9% extra) Apocalypse @ $100 Dredd martian $12 Saucer $10 Heroes $20 Crashed Saucer $15 Marines $15 Joe $5 Truck $20 6 Novas Vira $15 3 Burning Cattle $10 2 Giant Bugs $20 Disruptor $5 10 US Troops $15 5 Civilians $10 Potentially Surgeon & Wrex $172 (72% Extra) Human Attack Force @ $50 Truck $20 Disruptor $5 Natalya $8 Novas Viras $15 Human Soldiers $15 $63 (7% extra) Martian Attack Force @ $75 Saucer $20 Grunts $15 Science Division $15 Marines $15 Stealth $15 Bug $10 $90 (20% extra)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 15:41:03
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Escalation was *always* amazing, apocalypse has gotten there. The rest are just easy ways to focus fire specific things you like  I'm pretty extended, but sort of considering a second escalation onto my BotB.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 15:43:54
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Major
In a van down by the river
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Zweischneid wrote: GrimDork wrote:@Krinsath, being a total Dreadball n00b may I ask, why two teams? Does the game expand beyond 8 models? If I got the martian DB team and say, the full-size starter box, would the martians have less players?
Yes. I assume 8 players will be the starting line-up. If you play in a league, you'll likely want 2 or 3 more, though 16 is excessive.
Mantic's retail boxes for DreadBall are really annoying in that you usually only get the exact minimum to play, but no single (or pairs of) add-on miniatures are available. They really should consider putting the +2 freebies for each team (as in the Kickstarter) in all the retail team boxes. At their current "we-make-even-Games-Workshop-cry" RRP for DreadBall teams, that should be doable.
16 is the maximum roster size, and the size of all my other teams (well, when the final-final shipment gets here anyway).  It is excessive, as the most you realistically are going to use on a team is 14, since you'd want a spot or two free for MVPs. Even if your team is awesome and you're not going to PLAY an MVP, it can be worth locking them up for a week on your team to deny them to your opponent. That's sliding a bit off-topic though.
8, IMO, is not sufficient as Zwei said, but I'd rather have too many than too few. Easy enough to just not play with the extras, but damned annoying to try to magic them out of thin air if they're needed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 15:47:51
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Ahh, thanks for that Krinsath. I think I'll just stick to one set since I don't even have the core game yet, and proxy in some ray-gun martians if I ever get to the point that I need them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 15:50:20
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'd love to go apocalypse
However lack of Robot/Or ability to switch stuff out for things I want means I'll be sticking to my $140 - so Escalation, Martian Mayhem, Joe, & Heroes bundle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 15:59:22
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
West Midlands (UK)
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Krinsath wrote:
16 is the maximum roster size, and the size of all my other teams (well, when the final-final shipment gets here anyway).  It is excessive, as the most you realistically are going to use on a team is 14, since you'd want a spot or two free for MVPs. Even if your team is awesome and you're not going to PLAY an MVP, it can be worth locking them up for a week on your team to deny them to your opponent. That's sliding a bit off-topic though.
Yeah? I always thought 14 is the maximum roster size (and, as you said, you don't want to fill it up completely for a variety of reasons).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 16:01:32
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bristol
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@ Zweischnied -
i suspect they aren't tooled that way.
also 2x8 is 16, and gives the maximum number of player positions for the team. If its 10 in a box, you end up with 2 left over if you buy a second team that you can't use.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 16:03:05
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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And the restic prices for individual models (and probably pairs) is kind of high so I wonder if they'd really sell many smaller batches like that. It's far from ideal in either case I guess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 16:15:04
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Major
In a van down by the river
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Zweischneid wrote: Krinsath wrote:
16 is the maximum roster size, and the size of all my other teams (well, when the final-final shipment gets here anyway).  It is excessive, as the most you realistically are going to use on a team is 14, since you'd want a spot or two free for MVPs. Even if your team is awesome and you're not going to PLAY an MVP, it can be worth locking them up for a week on your team to deny them to your opponent. That's sliding a bit off-topic though.
Yeah? I always thought 14 is the maximum roster size (and, as you said, you don't want to fill it up completely for a variety of reasons).
You are correct; went to double-check and it is indeed 14, but no more than double the starting line-up so the 16 models gives you the flexibility to build it out how you want instead of being stuck with just Jacks or Strikers due to model restrictions.
And again, it's not particularly wise to fill out all those slots unless you're supremely confident in your team versus theirs + MVPs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 16:38:53
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Regular Dakkanaut
Bristol
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less than 8 hours to and black widow is in nad the green sd infantry is nearly in too.
then probe boy and dog...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 16:41:16
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Probe boy... you know that's going to be an indy game within the next couple months now that you've said it aloud right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 16:42:49
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Don't most of the Mantic team sets also come with the MVP? Which most people end up using as an alternative pose for the team anyhow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 16:48:04
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Fixture of Dakka
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This is ending in a very similar way to Impacts last KS I watched all day waiting for it to take off and it never did not even in the last hour or 2. I don't think it will go beyond $550k - $560k which is still really good going it must be said but I think it's brought it most of it's backers early on with the time limited offers and that's stopped the last day rush (so far  ).
I'm back to my original IA EB 1 and that's where I'll be staying I haven't even checked the KS today other than to see what value it's at just now - as there's no need to keep chipping in another $5 here or there as things unlock like in their other KSs. I'm not sure this whole credit idea works I have $125 to spend I'm not even sure what it will be spent on I'll look at it when the survey comes out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 16:51:34
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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I think the credit, or a version/hybrid of it, will be super good for MA. Like buy our x-level pledge and get 4 tanks and 40 infantry, OR swap out the tanks for 4 tanks of a different faction, or swap out your infantry for tanks. That way people can get specifically what they want. I just think the add-ons and them having a direct dollar correlation caused some issues.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 16:59:20
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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In case anyone missed it, Beloss Bel is now a freebie if we hit the backer goal.
Time to throw $1 at your friends/ wife/ cat and get them to pledge! :p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 17:07:23
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Near Golden Daemon Caliber
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Yeah I got 2-3 friends/family to do so, think I'm tapped out for backer buffs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 18:50:03
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <5 hrs left! $540k stretch - Craig and Tunga the Gorilla.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Free glowy Martian is in, another 5k for Wrex, then a further 5k for the free Craig and Gorilla.
Not long left!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 19:36:28
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <5 hrs left! $540k stretch - Craig and Tunga the Gorilla.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Rolling to the end quite nicely, given all the stagnation earlier in the week. Plenty of good value on offer and still some.
Reckon will end around $560k but you never know
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 19:44:33
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <5 hrs left! $540k stretch - Craig and Tunga the Gorilla.
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Does anybody know what the difference between the crashed car add on and the crashed car Pledge booster is? If I order 3 of the $5 cars do I get a set like the Pledge Booster or just three of the same car?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 20:03:45
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <12 hrs left! $535k stretch - The Surgeon and Wrex.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
West Midlands (UK)
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Krinsath wrote: Zweischneid wrote: Krinsath wrote:
16 is the maximum roster size, and the size of all my other teams (well, when the final-final shipment gets here anyway).  It is excessive, as the most you realistically are going to use on a team is 14, since you'd want a spot or two free for MVPs. Even if your team is awesome and you're not going to PLAY an MVP, it can be worth locking them up for a week on your team to deny them to your opponent. That's sliding a bit off-topic though.
Yeah? I always thought 14 is the maximum roster size (and, as you said, you don't want to fill it up completely for a variety of reasons).
You are correct; went to double-check and it is indeed 14, but no more than double the starting line-up so the 16 models gives you the flexibility to build it out how you want instead of being stuck with just Jacks or Strikers due to model restrictions.
And again, it's not particularly wise to fill out all those slots unless you're supremely confident in your team versus theirs + MVPs.
I'd also try asking Mantic if the DreadBall team comes with clear hex bases and decals like the retail boxes. If it doesn't, just plain miniatures (like most recent stuff I got from the DreadBall KS), and you need to order those later, getting them through Kickstarter might actually not be optimal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 20:18:03
Subject: Re:Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <5 hrs left! $540k stretch - Craig and Tunga the Gorilla.
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Ooooh
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 20:22:18
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <5 hrs left! $540k stretch - Craig and Tunga the Gorilla.
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Nice, that thing is *huge*.
Pretty damn good when you consider that it's as low as $17.50 to buy (taking into account 25% pledge level credit discount and bundle deal)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 20:22:41
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <5 hrs left! $540k stretch - Craig and Tunga the Gorilla.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Now it's actually near the end, I'm starting to have a look at it.
Particularly, at any models for Deadzone and dreadball.
Seeing that the Martian Dreadball team is basically £12.50 with free delivery - what you'd probably pay for from an online store has got me more interested.
A couple of the character models seem pretty neat too (Edwyn, Blaine maybe, one or two others).
I'm also half tempted by a truck and tiger corps for deadzone rebels...
Is there a smarter way to pledge for roughly things along these lines? Or do you think it's just a case of Dreadball team + Add ons?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 20:23:18
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <5 hrs left! $540k stretch - Craig and Tunga the Gorilla.
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Zealous Knight
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...IF they could produce that, with poseable limbs (which it seems these would lend themselves well to, and in a manageable number of pieces as well!) that would be pretty bloody great
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 20:29:19
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <5 hrs left! $540k stretch - Craig and Tunga the Gorilla.
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Multispectral Nisse
Luton, UK
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Finally dropped my EB2 down to just get a mat and a basic ruins pack. Now that the total is climbing rapidly rather than dropping like a rock I don't feel so bad about it.
There's some nice stuff (not so much the actual MA stuff, but more the vehicles), but I don't really feel the need to have it on day 1.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 20:43:06
Subject: Re:Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <5 hrs left! $540k stretch - Craig and Tunga the Gorilla.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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As someone not very interested in Mars Attacks, I'm delighted with this KS campaign. It's become extremely Deadzone friendly, with all of the compatible units, and all of the Deadzone terrain merchandise. I'm basically putting in a good chunk of my Deadzone survey 2 order through this campaign, but now I'm being rewarded with Mars Attacks freebies for doing so.
And while I'm not very invested in the Mars Attacks IP or the game, getting the game for $15 is a steal.
I originally planned to pledge $1 and probably pick up just the Blaine figure on the survey. I'm currently in for EB1 IA and will be happy to stay there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 21:04:15
Subject: Re:Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <5 hrs left! $540k stretch - Craig and Tunga the Gorilla.
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Finally decided to go in for this! Managed to pick up an early bird for the $100 deal, and I like the way it looks like a nicely self-contained game for the price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/11/10 21:04:30
Subject: Mantic Mars Attacks Kickstarter - <5 hrs left! $540k stretch - Craig and Tunga the Gorilla.
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Foxy Wildborne
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scarletsquig wrote:Nice, that thing is *huge*.
Pretty damn good when you consider that it's as low as $17.50 to buy (taking into account 25% pledge level credit discount and bundle deal)
$17.50? How about free with the $300 pledge
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