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2013/10/17 00:05:48
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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 Kanluwen wrote:Read something interesting yesterday from the executive producer that the pilot and second episode are best considered as 'Part I and 2' of the same episode. Kind of makes sense, pacing wise.
That's probably why we got them back to back when they aired here.
With ep3 a week later.
It's not grabbing me so far. The scientists are annoying. Cute anarcho-hacker chick is also annoying. Ruff-tuff-he-man-soldier type is ... you get the picture.
I don't think I've ever liked a character Ming-Na Wen has played (in anything I've seen).
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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2013/10/17 03:48:05
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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SHIELD needs some sort of anti-shield foil which they seem to be hinting at last episode. AIM and Hydra have already been established in the movies so those would be good candidates.
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2013/10/17 03:59:51
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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I thought Hydra was eliminated during WWII in the TV/Film canon? AIM certainly seems highly likely.
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2013/10/17 04:54:42
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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It is The Leader from The Incredible Hulk!
Well, probably not, but he was in a movie.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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2013/10/17 05:08:35
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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He was? I remember the Absorbing Man/Zzzax mashup and the "boney" Abomination but not The Leader.
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2013/10/17 05:18:52
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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 Breotan wrote:He was? I remember the Absorbing Man/Zzzax mashup and the "boney" Abomination but not The Leader.
Dr. Samuel Sterns (AKA The Leader) was the other scientist who was trying to help Bruce in the film, and in the end he gets a head wound that gamma irradiated blood drips into. It briefly shows his head starting to mutate before cutting away. Found a pic online:
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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2013/10/17 07:49:07
Subject: Re:Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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If he does appear I hope to high heaven that they go with the classic/original look for the character.
Gotta be scared of a villain who cannot wear a hat and has trouble getting through most doorways.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/10/17 08:00:40
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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I dunno. I sorta like the Freddy Mercury / Brussel Sprout look they designed for him.  
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2013/10/17 14:21:00
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Someone did some digging. That weird text that was on the blackboard? Skrull writing.
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2013/10/17 14:55:19
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Breotan wrote:I thought Hydra was eliminated during WWII in the TV/Film canon? AIM certainly seems highly likely.
They'll be back. We can never seem to get rid of those pesky Nazis.
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2013/10/18 14:30:04
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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 KamikazeCanuck wrote: Breotan wrote:I thought Hydra was eliminated during WWII in the TV/Film canon? AIM certainly seems highly likely.
They'll be back. We can never seem to get rid of those pesky Nazis.
Exactly. Look again at what happens to Red Skull when he grasps the Tesseract, it's a very similar effect to what happens when Thor uses it to take Loki back to Asgard at the end of The Avengers, I suspect he'll be back for Captain America 3 if they make his story a trilogy, and it'd be quite cool if they introduced a new modern Hydra through SHIELD.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
I have a blog now, evidently. Featuring the Alternative Mordheim Model Megalist.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal |
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2013/10/18 17:38:00
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I want them to go the Dell Rusk route. That could be interesting.
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2013/10/18 19:50:46
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:I want them to go the Dell Rusk route. That could be interesting.
The whatnow?
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2013/10/18 19:54:43
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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"It is not the bullet with your name on it that should worry you, it's the one labeled "To whom it may concern. . ."
DQ:70S++G+++MB+I+Pwhfb06+D++A+++/aWD-R++++T(D)DM+ |
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2013/10/18 23:09:46
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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When is it out in South Africa? And on what channel of DSTV can I find it on?
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 Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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2013/10/19 02:25:18
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Norn Queen
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Someone did some digging. That weird text that was on the blackboard? Skrull writing.
I thought it was fairly obviously going to be Skrull writing.
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2013/10/19 07:50:46
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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 -Loki- wrote:I thought it was fairly obviously going to be Skrull writing.
Given the way the rights for various Marvel properties are handled, it was up in the air. There are four major Marvel institutions that originated through the Fantastic Four: 1. Doctor Doom. 2. Galactus/Silver Surfer. 3. Skrulls. 4. Kree. 20th Century Fox has the Fantastic Four rights, and they ain't ever giving them back (they once made a cheapo F4 movie that they never released - that's how serious they are about holding onto the rights), meaning there are some things that Marvel cannot do. It's never really been clear what their limitations are, so it is always safer to assume that they don't have the rights to these four things (for live action - video games and cartoons are different) until they show that they do. Guardians of the Galaxy has shown us that they can do the Kree (Ronan the Accuser is the main bad guy, and there are other Kree characters in the film), and now we have Skrull text in an episode of SHIELD. I don't think we're going to see Galactus ever show up, and I think Doom is 100% off-limits (such a shame, as he is Marvel's biggest Big Bad in a lot of ways), but it's great if the later two are available for the MCU. And Skrulls make a great bad guy for a TV show like this. Shape Shifters = saving money on special effects/prosthetics.
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2013/10/19 08:41:32
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Norn Queen
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Marvel have the rights to the Skrulls through the Chitauri, which were made for the Ultimate series as their replacement. So when they say 'Skrull writing' I just assumed Chitauri writing, since those are the 'Skrulls' they have the rights to.
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2013/10/19 08:53:58
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Yes, I know what the Chitauri are, but if it were Chitauri they would have said already.
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2013/10/19 09:36:11
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Well if Hydra show up I hope they and the Red Skull bloke are a little more effective than they were in the fairly average Cap A film.
I mean they couldn't even shoot straight and the captured soliders were far more effective than they ever were with theri super weapons. Red Skull juust postured a bit and did very little of anything..
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos 
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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2013/10/19 09:42:36
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Do not question his genius!
But yeah, Red Skull was pretty crap in that film. I hope that if they give us any other Hydra villains (Strucker, Zemo, etc.) that they're not as gak.
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2013/10/19 09:53:59
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Mighty Vampire Count
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I think it would have been better to just have the Nazis as the bad guys and Hydra only revealed at the very end of the film.- trying to protect them as "worse than the Nazis" was weak - they were certainly terrible soliders!
Is Strukker the one with the twins who turn up in the Xmen long ago?
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/528517.page
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2013/10/19 14:39:24
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Baron Von Strucker is an old school enemy of Cap. Has a robotic/daemonic hand that can suck the life out of people and rejuvinate him. He's just another Hydra leader - one of many - and can be interesting.
I like Baron Zemo more though.
And yeah, he had two daughters, twins, who were mutants. Both of them are dead though.
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2013/10/19 17:41:07
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Episode 4, same again. Nicely paced, better dialogue (less of the annoying scientists) and some cool action. I liked the trick at the end with I agree there needs to be an anti-Shield, preferably Hydra as AIM have already been used and totally messed up by Iron Man 3. Hydra may have been poor shots in Cap, but at least they stayed fairly true to the original background. I do feel like they're not 'finishing' a lot of these plots, with the non-resolution with Mike at the end of ep1, the gravitonium man last week, and now a hidden villain after apparently alien tech... That said, I can tolerate that as I reckon/hope it's going somewhere cool. We're only a third of the way through the series, after all. Given the comment about ep 1+2 being a continuation, I wonder if we'll see any more two-parters?
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2013/10/20 01:21:04
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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 Paradigm wrote:I do feel like they're not 'finishing' a lot of these plots...
Of course they aren't. We're 4 episodes in. This is all set up.
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2013/10/20 08:55:40
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Paradigm wrote:I do feel like they're not 'finishing' a lot of these plots...
Of course they aren't. We're 4 episodes in. This is all set up.
I think you misinterpreted my post. I wasn't complaining about that, I am actually looking forward to seeing where this all goes, and the more they leave hanging, the more interesting it becomes.
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2013/10/20 10:00:57
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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That's the fairly recent redesign -- well a variation of. Which started during Peter David's seminal run on the Hulk title. IIRC he refered to this redesign as the Jiffy pop head design ( or something like that anyway...?
For far too many years.. well...
 
Horrifying but perhaps not quite in the way desired.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/10/20 13:54:56
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Oh, right, the Leader is That guy! I was thinking of Modak I believe his name is when thinking of big headed villans.
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2013/10/20 14:15:32
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Lol at "...and I'm Batman".
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2013/10/21 07:46:00
Subject: Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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 AduroT wrote:Oh, right, the Leader is That guy! I was thinking of Modak I believe his name is when thinking of big headed villans.
Close
http://marvel.com/universe/MODOK
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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