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 paulson games wrote:
I see it like a big bang theory episode.

Smoking hot girl buys a cheap off the shelf Star Trek costume and wears it to convention.

Enter the Sheldon type guy who sees it and is offended that the communications badge isn't regulation X made by so and so company, the stitching pattern isn't authentic and the shoes don't feature the same tread pattern depicted in episode 43. He gets all in a huff about the most minute details which are only known to the most extreme fanboy and his triade makes the girl cry.

The Sheldon type is so consumed with the uber fan aspects that he's completely oblivios to the bigger picture, which is the exsistence of a girl who's actually interested in Star Trek, much less the fact it's a hot girl. The Sheldon type says I don't understand what she's so upset about, by putting on that uniform she was assuming the mantle of responsibility and authenticity that a starfleet uniform demands. Meanwhile his friends who are more grounded are all facepalming.

> Ignores points made by people why the figures aren't seen as great
> Clouds argument by resolving to use ad homiem based comparisons
> Tries to form a straw man from the argument of the opposing side by exaggerating points made massively

Top kek, 11/10, would concede in debate.

I like the alien on the left.

The one of the right looks off for some reason. Looks more like a hunched over man, then something running on all 4's.

Maybe it's having a poo?

 Imposter101 wrote:
Top kek, 11/10, would concede in debate.

My applogies for having an opinion. You have shamed me into defeat and I will forever more conceed that the Alien1 design is the best there ever was, or could be. Furthermore no possible deviations can allow for anyones enjoyment of the Aliens franchise beyond the original Alien movie. You sir have won the internets, and I am humbled before your greatness.

I agree wholeheartedly with everything Paulson has said. The minuate of the models are unimportant, the fact they are going to exist and be available to everybody is the fact that matters.

If you don't like the feet, convert them, or just opt out entirely.

 paulson games wrote:

 Imposter101 wrote:
Top kek, 11/10, would concede in debate.

My applogies for having an opinion. You have shamed me into defeat and I will forever more conceed that the Alien1 design is the best there ever was, or could be. Furthermore no possible deviations can allow for anyones enjoyment of the Aliens franchise beyond the original Alien movie. You sir have won the internets, and I am humbled before your greatness.

Great straw man argument right there. It's bound to work eventually. Also, pulling the opinion argument isn't going to work incredibly well, when you yourself are attacking someones opinion. Again, avoid these things, they do not help your position.

 paulson games wrote:
I see it like a big bang theory episode.

Smoking hot girl buys a cheap off the shelf Star Trek costume and wears it to convention.

Enter the Sheldon type guy who sees it and is offended that the communications badge isn't regulation X made by so and so company, the stitching pattern isn't authentic and the shoes don't feature the same tread pattern depicted in episode 43. He gets all in a huff about the most minute details which are only known to the most extreme fanboy and his triade makes the girl cry.

The Sheldon type is so consumed with the uber fan aspects that he's completely oblivios to the bigger picture, which is the exsistence of a girl who's actually interested in Star Trek, much less the fact it's a hot girl. The Sheldon type says I don't understand what she's so upset about, by putting on that uniform she was assuming the mantle of responsibility and authenticity that a starfleet uniform demands. Meanwhile his friends who are more grounded are all facepalming.

have an exalt. Put it much better than I was going to say it.

EDIT: We're all Sheldons in some respect. I will admit I'm a Sheldon when it comes to Original Cadian minis for example.

 Imposter101 wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
This. This, this and this again. Considering that the Xenomorphs are supposed to be a highly adaptable and variable race as it is, why make a big deal about the feet and hands?

There's a difference between hand and feet structure and the entire theme and feel of the creature, i.e;

Overly organic, generic monster;



And Giger's creation;



Also, the Predators where are individuals and were never a caste based hive creature. It's a poor comparison to make and clouds the argument.

Am I seriously the only one who can barely tell the difference between those two pics with the exception of coloration?!

Probably not!

 azreal13 wrote:

Am I seriously the only one who can barely tell the difference between those two pics with the exception of coloration?!

Nope. This is the scifi equivalent of someone declaring that a Napoleonic 25mm fig range is complete crap because they have 3 buttons on their jackets instead of 4 from midwar on. Jeez! It looks completely unrealistic with 3 buttons like something straight out of a high school play costume department! I mean, seriously, the hats don't even look like they're made out of beavers! They're clearly sculpted to be rabbit fur! The rest of us are just happy that we get Pope hat wearing guys in dress uniforms with muskets and bayonets to paint as we haven't been able to find any in that scale for years.

 azreal13 wrote:
Am I seriously the only one who can barely tell the difference between those two pics with the exception of coloration?!

Main thing is a 25 year seperation and the introduction of CGI

This game opens up all sort of crossovers as well...

Superman vs
Batman vs
Judge Dredd vs

to name but three - although the ultimate is Batman vs Alien vs Predator...

Severely lacking bamf and kapow.

Ok so any clue as to when this is coming out I am really excited about this.

 BlackRaven1987!! wrote:
Ok so any clue as to when this is coming out I am really excited about this.

Monday... is when they supposedly tell us more.

I can't tell the difference either. I'm amazed that people always find a reason to complain. The feet. Really? Who the cares.

Am I the only guy that doesn't see the difference between those two pics? Maybe I'm just a bad nerd...

~Tim?

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
Am I the only guy that doesn't see the difference between those two pics? Maybe I'm just a bad nerd...

~Tim?

Dude, seriously? You got a bunch of posters in this thread on ignore or summiink?

 Imposter101 wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
This. This, this and this again. Considering that the Xenomorphs are supposed to be a highly adaptable and variable race as it is, why make a big deal about the feet and hands?

There's a difference between hand and feet structure and the entire theme and feel of the creature, i.e;

Overly organic, generic monster;



And Giger's creation;



Also, the Predators where are individuals and were never a caste based hive creature. It's a poor comparison to make and clouds the argument.

Other than the fact one is a rubber suit I cant tell the difference.

Man, this looks incredibly good.

I prefer the CGI one. It looks less like it was made out of spare vacuum cleaner parts.

I like 'em both. They both look like something that lurks in dark, claustrophobia-inducing spaces, blending in with pipes and/or hives built from some sort of secreted resin (secreted from what?), just waiting for a chance to grab some unsuspecting passerby...

And after all, that's what we want from our xenomorphs.

Does anyone here at dakka know how the spoiler post function works? Or is it a personal preference to repost the same set of large pictures to add just a single new sentance?

 warboss wrote:
Does anyone here at dakka know how the spoiler post function works? Or is it a personal preference to repost the same set of large pictures to add just a single new sentance?

 azreal13 wrote:
Am I seriously the only one who can barely tell the difference between those two pics with the exception of coloration?!

There's nothing "generic" about that first picture. Not in the slightest.

The hands on the bottom pic look a lot creepier, but that's the only difference I can see at a glance

 azreal13 wrote:

 Imposter101 wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
This. This, this and this again. Considering that the Xenomorphs are supposed to be a highly adaptable and variable race as it is, why make a big deal about the feet and hands?

There's a difference between hand and feet structure and the entire theme and feel of the creature, i.e;

Overly organic, generic monster;



And Giger's creation;



Also, the Predators where are individuals and were never a caste based hive creature. It's a poor comparison to make and clouds the argument.

Am I seriously the only one who can barely tell the difference between those two pics with the exception of coloration?!

Right with you brother.

I'm just excited this thing is going to exist.

Imposters pedantic nitpicking is pretty impressive though.

Gotta love the ad hominems. Always a true indicator of a well reasoned argument. Also Warboss thanks you for quoting those pics again.

 Yonan wrote:
Gotta love the ad hominems. Always a true indicator of a well reasoned argument.

Is this where I post +1?

But seriously, it shows that there is a vocal portion who don't agree with the original poster rather than being a silent. I agree that the spoiler tags would have been nicer but I can live with it.

The original design from Alien has a lot more "mechanical" bits on it, like on the head/neck for example, where you can clearly see details that look literally like power cables or hoses (because the original suit could very likely have actual vacuum parts on it, since Giger's famous for his biomechanical art style), where the later design/CGI just has a lumpy organic mess instead, with only vague hints of ribbing/cabling anymore. If you look at the upper arm too it's really obvious, there's no mechanical look to it at all and it's just a plain, organic texture that fuses directly to the shoulder blade (which I'm also not too fond of, just looks odd). The hands are also different as some have pointed out already, the original has six fingers with the two pairs being "fused" in the center whereas later versions just have four long fingers now.

I haven't been following this whole argument very closely but in my opinion I kind of agree, as the creature has "evolved" it's sort of lost a lot of cool details like that and started to look more and more like a generic beast from low-budget sci-fi but with the iconic, phallus-shaped, eyeless head. That said, it's all detail that would likely get lost at this scale anyway, so...