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 Ronin_eX wrote:
It will be interesting to see what they have planned for this.

I'm plenty excited as is ... Predatrice as first stretch is risky but appreciated. The Alien Queen at the bottom ... oh man I can't wait! And there is some mention in the fluff about sinister W-Y androids even.

 paulson games wrote:
Can anyone makes sense of what this is supposed to mean: "ᖘᴀʏʙᴀᴄᴋ ᴛɪᴍᴇ" and "ᗩɴʏᴛɪᴍᴇ" rewards

wtf??

I get the movie humor reference but I'd prefer non-tard english for titles.



Edit:
Want some candy?

Anytime is a pledge level that includes the rules PDF. It's the "freebie" included with most other higher priced pledges. I'd suspect Payback time is another pledge level as well.

 Cyporiean wrote:
Eh? Has British television lied to me that 'Ten Pee' doesn't mean Pounds?

My BBC watching has led me to believe it means ten pence, whereas ten pounds is a tenner.

There is a funny and ironic typo in the comments.

Justin Timothy:I find the FAQ to be oddly written:

We have significant backing financially and an experienced team of rules designers, artists, 3D designers and model makers. As a team we are highly experienced in logistics and manufacturing and have learnt a lot about expectation and delays having already completed a highly successful Kickstarter campaign for our first project: Warzone Resurrection.

If they have significant financial backing why the need for KS?

Prodos: Hello Justin. Because we are offering a product that would happen otherwise.

For me, too spendy for what you get at the moment. Will revisit it in 2 weeks and see if that has changed.

 Ronin_eX wrote:
Honestly, I'm getting mad deja vu between this and the Warzone campaign. Same concerns about pricing being "a bit to high" (or "ludicrous" for the more hyperbolic amongst those complaining). And eventually that was turning out sweet-spot pledges with 35-40% off of retail (even if you included shipping on to it). I got loads of stuff off of that KS for a better price than I could have ever expected.

 warboss wrote:
Except that we have another Kickstarter from the same company to compare this with and the same complaints were quite common there. Not many freebies, slightly worse "value" compared with simply buying it from the warstore, and the vast majority of the unlocks were paid purchases. If they follow the same progression (which the start has been matching), there isn't going to be much of a difference in the per fig price for each pledge level and the unlocks will generally increase variety but not value. They could obviously deviate from their previous offering though...

Damn these contradictory posts. Now I'll have to do the math thing myself : /

edit: rofl warboss, gotta love when a typo completely reverses the meaning of a sentence.

I love that sentence. We have significant financial backing...

But we want your preorder to prove to Fox that we can actually market this game.

 Yonan wrote:

 Ronin_eX wrote:
Honestly, I'm getting mad deja vu between this and the Warzone campaign. Same concerns about pricing being "a bit to high" (or "ludicrous" for the more hyperbolic amongst those complaining). And eventually that was turning out sweet-spot pledges with 35-40% off of retail (even if you included shipping on to it). I got loads of stuff off of that KS for a better price than I could have ever expected.

 warboss wrote:
Except that we have another Kickstarter from the same company to compare this with and the same complaints were quite common there. Not many freebies, slightly worse "value" compared with simply buying it from the warstore, and the vast majority of the unlocks were paid purchases. If they follow the same progression (which the start has been matching), there isn't going to be much of a difference in the per fig price for each pledge level and the unlocks will generally increase variety but not value. They could obviously deviate from their previous offering though...

Damn these contradictory posts. Now I'll have to do the math thing myself : /

edit: rofl warboss, gotta love when a typo completely reverses the meaning of a sentence.

Indeed! I obviously assume it is a typo but the sheer irony isn't lost on me.

They changed something in the latter half of the warzone kickstarter because of the feedback they were getting about the relative value because what they were offering was slightly worse than simply buying it at retail from the warstore (for US pledgers after shipping). If you look at the starting 20 or so pages of the thread the discussion pretty much mirrors this one. IIRC Hulksmash posted some detailed comments about it so try filtering the thread for him. It's possible that they did better in the final week or two because of the complaints but at that point I had lost interest.

Edit - Nothing to see here, damn slow reading and responding.

nm - mispost

They must have just forgot to list the dice they are in the game contents picture.

 Ronin_eX wrote:

It refers to previous backer levels included in a given level. The Anytime level is the limited edition rules. Payback time includes the game, £60 in add-ons and the Anytime level (i.e. the book).

So the last level includes the 100 custom heads, the game, £60 in add-ons and two copies of the book (since the Payback level includes Anytime and it also includes Anytime as well). Mostly that just seems to be the generous backer level.

Not sure what's up with the font though. That is kind of weird.

Two copies of the book? Seems a bit useless. I'd hope that one could perhaps be swapped out for some loot...

 warboss wrote:
They changed something in the latter half of the warzone kickstarter because of the feedback they were getting about the relative value because what they were offering was slightly worse than simply buying it at retail from the warstore (for US pledgers after shipping). If you look at the starting 20 or so pages of the thread the discussion pretty much mirrors this one. IIRC Hulksmash posted some detailed comments about it so try filtering the thread for him. It's possible that they did better in the final week or two because of the complaints but at that point I had lost interest.

Ahh k, thanks. I'll have a look there first.

Well I'm in, just pledged, And I thought I was out of kickstarter.....

I think I'll wait for the retail version...

I bet when this game comes out, I'll be able to pick up the boxed add ons for less than $40 for 5 marines.

But who knows what those miniatures will look like...

Any chance of some "Engineer" stretch goals?

I think Prodos has confirmed Prometheus is not covered by their license.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I think I'll wait for the retail version...

I bet when this game comes out, I'll be able to pick up the boxed add ons for less than $40 for 5 marines.

Sure, but I bet they'll also be in bendy-ass vinyl like "Last Night on Earth".

Can anyone makes sense of what this is supposed to mean: "ᖘᴀʏʙᴀᴄᴋ ᴛɪᴍᴇ" and "ᗩɴʏᴛɪᴍᴇ" rewards

wtf??

Weird, when I was on my other computer which had an older version of windows (xp) half the text was a series of boxes rather than letters which was why I was wondering how we were supposed to read it. Seems like there were errors with how the font was displaying. On my laptop the letters display fine, although the font is non standard it's at least readable unlike what I was seeing before.

Page displays like this on XP, which makes the titles rather hard to decipher

I do hope they fix the broken font. That said, I'll jump in at 75 GBP, but we'll see what happens. No fem-marines, no money from me.

 Ouze wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I think I'll wait for the retail version...

I bet when this game comes out, I'll be able to pick up the boxed add ons for less than $40 for 5 marines.

Sure, but I bet they'll also be in bendy-ass vinyl like "Last Night on Earth".

Well, I don't mind board game plastic if the sculpts are decent and the price is even more decent.

So, it's either retail plastic box or nothing for me. $25 plus $15 shipping for 5 aliens/marines/whatever is just not going to happen.

My initial view of the set was 'Blimey, that looks a bit sparse'. I wonder if the £75 price point is enough to cover them for a reasonable amount of add ins later?

On the other hand, the models are good - certainly better than the AvP stuff I have previously seen. If the standard edition contains slightly less detailed e.g. board game quality miniatures* then I think the price is more understandable. Certainly better than some of the 'upgrades' I've seen for CE computer games.

*Then again I remember the models in Space Crusade. The Chaos Marines had some fantastic detailing on them.

The board isn't wowing me right now. I hope that we get some stretch goals to upgrade it.

I like AvP but I'm not a huge fan of the universe, as things stand right now I would stick with Space Hulk. However, I know several people who LOVE the AvP stuff, though so will definitely keep an eye on this and the value might go up. So I will back them for £75.

 paulson games wrote:
Weird, when I was on my other computer which had an older version of windows (xp) half the text was a series of boxes rather than letters which was why I was wondering how we were supposed to read it. Seems like there were errors with how the font was displaying. On my laptop the letters display fine, although the font is non standard it's at least readable unlike what I was seeing before.

Page displays like this on XP, which makes the titles rather hard to decipher

The errors are due to the use of the extended character sets that are not supported by XP by default. Adding the Cyberbit font should fix the issue - that's what I used to add support for Japanese characters on my old computers.

When I look at the price of the starter set now, it just seems pretty ridiculous to ask £75 for only 23 miniatures. I'd expect it to only be around £65 at that cost.

 BrookM wrote:
I do hope they fix the broken font. That said, I'll jump in at 75 GBP, but we'll see what happens. No fem-marines, no money from me.

Top middle model has a feminine face (I think). Also bottom right.


I would be very surprised if we don't end up with female marines. The first stretch goal was a a female Predator, after all.

Don't look like girls to me.

Are female marines meant to look like 'girls'?

I just mean the face look more feminine than the usual square jawed male soldier models, not that those are necessarily female marines. Femarines?. I assume that when/if female marines do get shown they will have appropriate bodies to match.

...and that there will then be several pages of what 'appropriate' should actually be.

Nononononono, before people assault me on that, I do not mean they should have different armour, exposed meaty parts or the like. I just don't really see it in those faces myself, that's it.

 Imposter101 wrote:
When I look at the price of the starter set now, it just seems pretty ridiculous to ask £75 for only 23 miniatures. I'd expect it to only be around £65 at that cost.

£10 here is your deal breaker?

23 models @ £75 = £3.26 each, or, as previously mentioned, about $5.25 each.

That doesn't sound bad to me at all, and that's bound to get better/cheaper as more stretch goals are knocked over.

Plus, great shipping for everybody across the globe.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
First update.

Wow! Only 8 hours in and we have smashed the initial target and the first stretched goal. I guess this is happening and thanks to all!

To the next Stretched Goal: The Predalien:



Concept Sculpt!
And here is the UNLOCKED Female Alien:





And the Stretch Goal Tower: