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2015/05/23 21:31:22
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
so maybe ..."coming SOON to a kickstarter near you....3d Terrain for AvP"? If they used the cardboard 3d terrain for another kickstarter to demonstrate the game at the open day, maybe it was thought to be not necessary/a stretch goal too far?
2015/05/23 22:47:17
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
eddieazrael wrote: so maybe ..."coming SOON to a kickstarter near you....3d Terrain for AvP"? If they used the cardboard 3d terrain for another kickstarter to demonstrate the game at the open day, maybe it was thought to be not necessary/a stretch goal too far?
They had 3D terrain available in this KS...
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2015/05/24 19:24:46
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
Hiya, I understood that 3D terrain was part of the deal.. except that (and apologies for being uninformed) the commentary here suggests that maybe the terrain never happened/has been delayed? I'll admit that I've only taken part in 1 kickstarter (the Conan one) but I'd expect that most models/stuff would get released for general retail eventually - but have seen no mention of terrain.
2015/05/24 20:03:33
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
we have no reason whatsoever to think that the 3D terrain isn't happening. Prodos have never said as such or even hinted at it, it's just that they were going through the 3rd iteration of design (at least) when the whole IP debacle and the KS got pulled. They've said little about it since though we have seen photos of a corridor piece from one of the gaming conventions. The version we've seen however is basically the second version we were originally shown, and has has never been declared to be the final version. They've said many many times that ALL models will be available in retail with the exception of the berserker.
Right now, all we can do is wait and see what they've created.
2015/05/24 22:26:12
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
warboss wrote: So just how many months does it take out of curiosity for no news to stop being good news?
haha - good question. It's hard to say, though the number of fanboys defending Prodos at every disappointment is growing less and less, so I think the tide of support is turning slowly. I do hope they manage to deliver before things turn properly ugly.
Having missed Salute, it looks almost certain that they'll now miss the opportunity to launch at UK Expo, and with that will go yet another broken promise to deliver to (some) backers. Their ability to consistently underestimate the length of time every single stage of the process will take is quite astonishing.
2015/05/25 10:43:26
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
Well, it is now Monday, and the Friday update with instructions some of us need to follow still has not been sent out. And the Prodos Proclaimed 31 May deadline for following the not yet sent out instructions is coming....
SOON!
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2015/05/25 13:23:27
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
warboss wrote: So just how many months does it take out of curiosity for no news to stop being good news?
haha - good question. It's hard to say, though the number of fanboys defending Prodos at every disappointment is growing less and less, so I think the tide of support is turning slowly. I do hope they manage to deliver before things turn properly ugly.
Having missed Salute, it looks almost certain that they'll now miss the opportunity to launch at UK Expo, and with that will go yet another broken promise to deliver to (some) backers. Their ability to consistently underestimate the length of time every single stage of the process will take is quite astonishing.
Can I ask where you have got this info biggusdoggus?
I agree it did seem a bit unlikely that the KS would be available for collection at the UK games expo, but the last update they put on their FB page was that they were still hoping to have them there?
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Their last update did say they were hoping for a release at UK Expo. The update before that said they were hoping for a release at Salute. The time before they hoped we would be getting at Christmas, and the time before that they were hoping to make their November delivery. Now I know I'm being a little harsh in that there have been a few more updates in between, but while they use words like "soon" and "hope" I just thing there's a pattern forming.
They need to organise a way for backers to tell them in advance that they want to collect from Expo- Expo is now 4 days away. Let's face it, it ain't happening. I think they want to do it, and they want to get it to us, but they've proved time and time again to be poor at estimating timing. I wish they'd be a bit more honest with themselves, and maybe that would lead to them being more realistic with us.
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2015/05/26 08:02:18
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
Yes right, completely see your point with the prior form.
I'm actually going to the Games Expo this coming weekend, but I'm not getting my hopes up. If it's there, it's there.. if not, well, hopefully it will be a busy show and I'll be distracted by other shiny things.
yeah I'll be there as well, mostly to go shake Colin and Wayne's hands over on the Battle Systems stand and congratulate them on another brilliantly run kickstarter which looks like it will deliver if not bang on time, certainly within a month of their original estimate. Oh and to take a peek at their next one (urban - good for zombicide / pulp / 7tv, or even infinity).
and then I shall wander round trying not to spend too much money on shiny stuff.
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2015/05/26 12:58:57
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
biggusdoggus wrote: yeah I'll be there as well, mostly to go shake Colin and Wayne's hands over on the Battle Systems stand and congratulate them on another brilliantly run kickstarter which looks like it will deliver if not bang on time, certainly within a month of their original estimate. Oh and to take a peek at their next one (urban - good for zombicide / pulp / 7tv, or even infinity).
and then I shall wander round trying not to spend too much money on shiny stuff.
You're not contemplating giving the guys at Prodos a bit o' stink palm for this kickstarter, are you??
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2015/05/26 14:49:06
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
We have more facts!
Amazing news guys! We have 51 copies of AvP available at UK Games Expo, exclusively for Kickstarter Backers to come and collect their Boxed Game!
You will need to come to our trade stand (M12 - Monarch Suite)
We will need a couple of things from you though, firstly, please print out your pledge manager and give this to us. In return, we will pass over your copies of AvP: The Hunt Begins Boardgame! Secondly, please bring some form of photographic identification. A Passport, UK Drivers License or European Citizen's Card will suffice.
It will be first come, first served and we will only be handing these out from the moment the show opens on Friday (14:00) until the show closes on Saturday (17:00). If there are any copies left on Sunday, they will still be given out to KS backers which are entitled to them, or otherwise sold to avoid having to take them back.
Whilst we are in the UK, our packing and dispatch team is working hard to get the first copies of AvP assembled and shipped. Shipment will be starting next week.
Many thanks again for your patience, we simply cannot wait to see the looks on your faces when you see this product in your hands!
Cheers!
Prodos Games LTD
The cynic in me wants to ask how many copies they'll have for sale to newcomer con goers compared to the 51 copies for long suffering backers. In any case, congrats to them on getting something finally done.. soonTM.
2015/05/28 15:36:20
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
According to their wording - they will have exactly zero for sale to newcomers, these are entirely for Kickstarter backers, and will only get sold if they aren't all claimed by closing time on Saturday. I'd be inclined to believe them!
Will be going myself, but I'd actually quite like the giant box full of fragile resin models to be securely posted to my home, rather than have to lug it around a convention. Would be good to see it in person, though!
2015/05/28 18:53:50
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
Hopefully they will only be sold to newcomers by closing time on Sunday! I'm a backer but am only attending on the Sunday.
Guessing the odds that they will have any left on the Sunday will be pretty slim! Might send an email on the offchance..
++EDIT++ Post by Jarek on FB
We should be getting 300 more by Friday Next week which will go out to backers. The production is ramping up to 800 a week from 3rd / 4th week onwards.So yes this things are not happening overnight. USA is going on a boat week after next (8 days) the courier comany can't do any earlier. Anyway I am going offline we are somewhere in the middle of Germany and 900 km left to Birmingham frown emoticon
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Does this mean that the kickstarter exclusives will be available too, or just the retail box? Also, an aside question but anyone know how many sets of the Battlesystems 3D sci fi terrain that was showcased at the AvP demo are required to cover the AvP missions? (in case anyone has asked this earlier.)
2015/05/28 23:09:52
Subject: Alien vs Predator Miniatures Game from Prodos Games
If I remember correctly it's only the boxed game that is fully 100% approved, so only the 51 copies of that will be available to bakers to pick up at the show.
FYI I'm very jelous of any of you getting to pick your set up at the show.
eddieazrael wrote: Does this mean that the kickstarter exclusives will be available too, or just the retail box? Also, an aside question but anyone know how many sets of the Battlesystems 3D sci fi terrain that was showcased at the AvP demo are required to cover the AvP missions? (in case anyone has asked this earlier.)
As JoeRugby says think it's just the boxed set.
But, I'll take a look around at the show when I'm there, you never know they might have got some other casts and releases ready for the day.
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