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Im not going to be drawn into another argument with people who refuse to understand what im saying.
Also To those saying that they think the movie looks like crap just from the trailers......Quite a bit of people thought The Green Lantern was good from the trailers. Wait for reviews IMO

Or you could try to improve your communication skills so you wouldn't have to spend so much time trying to get people to understand what you're saying.

~Tim?

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
Or you could try to improve your communication skills so you wouldn't have to spend so much time trying to get people to understand what you're saying.

~Tim?

He's dyslexic, how dare you say that.

 Cheesecat wrote:

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
Or you could try to improve your communication skills so you wouldn't have to spend so much time trying to get people to understand what you're saying.

~Tim?

He's dyslexic, how dare you say that.

I don't think dyslexia has an impact on your ability to make a coherent argument...

It looks interesting.

Someone pointed out that there have been a few successful Bible based films out lately. I got to say that the ones I saw like the history channel one called "The Bible". I really didn't think it was really that good.(I'm speaking purely from a quality/technical aspect).

My opinion, the gold standard that any "Bible" based movie should be compared to is John Huston's "The Bible".

Also one of the major aspects about the Noah story that I didn't see anyone mention here, is that Noah is regarded as one of the "heroes" of faith as described by Paul in the book of Hebrews.

The point being that despite it never rained before, (according to the Bible it didn't rain until the flood) a man heard from God and built a vessel purely on Faith. I think this movie will deal with the challenges faced by someone going through a situation where no one believes him, yet he presses on anyway.

Ahtman, thanks for sharing I had no idea this film was being made. I look forward to it.

By the way...you can fit a lot more animals on a ship, when they are in eggs, or are newborns. Also you don't have to bring every species, for examples for dog's...you just bring a couple of wolf pups.

GG

 d-usa wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
Or you could try to improve your communication skills so you wouldn't have to spend so much time trying to get people to understand what you're saying.

~Tim?

He's dyslexic, how dare you say that.

I don't think dyslexia has an impact on your ability to make a coherent argument...

Well, it does in the sense that having bad grammar and spelling (which it seems a lot of dyslexics have trouble with) can effect the coherency of an argument, but that's beside the point I was just being insincerely self-righteous and I too at at times find hotsauceman's hard to read.

I really don't know what to make of this. The trailer didn't look great, with Crowe and Hopkins saying all the normal kinds of things people say in cliche big budget movies, but on the other hand the visuals looked good and Aronofsky has a really solid track record, including a couple of films that tackle religion and meta-physics in some really interesting ways.

Also, has Crowe been good in anything since he got middle aged and a little pudgy? His intense, brooding acting worked when he was a fit muscular guy, but now that he seems... more comfortable... it doesn't seem to work well at all.

 Fafnir wrote:
Isn't Darren Aronofsky an atheist? This could make for a pretty interesting movie, depending on the directions he could take it in. For all we know, the trailer might have just been the studio attempting to appeal to the bible crowd.

Is he an atheist? That's pretty interesting, as he's made two films with really interesting religion themes, Pi and The Fountain. Not traditional religious themes by any means, but stuff it'd be pretty strange for a person to tackle if they had no religious belief at all.

 sebster wrote:
I really don't know what to make of this. The trailer didn't look great, with Crowe and Hopkins saying all the normal kinds of things people say in cliche big budget movies, but on the other hand the visuals looked good and Aronofsky has a really solid track record, including a couple of films that tackle religion and meta-physics in some really interesting ways.

Also, has Crowe been good in anything since he got middle aged and a little pudgy? His intense, brooding acting worked when he was a fit muscular guy, but now that he seems... more comfortable... it doesn't seem to work well at all.

 Fafnir wrote:
Isn't Darren Aronofsky an atheist? This could make for a pretty interesting movie, depending on the directions he could take it in. For all we know, the trailer might have just been the studio attempting to appeal to the bible crowd.

Is he an atheist? That's pretty interesting, as he's made two films with really interesting religion themes, Pi and The Fountain. Not traditional religious themes by any means, but stuff it'd be pretty strange for a person to tackle if they had no religious belief at all.

I love the fountain. And it's soundtrack.

Also, Heston in the Ten Commandments is pretty decent as well.

And despite what it is, Passion isn't a bad movie. I don't know if it's great, but it isn't bad.

And I'm also a sucker for Prince of Egypt, but then again I love the animation in it.

Relapse wrote:
Where do you get that he was an alcoholic? That he had a blowout after everything that happened?

And Noah the husbandman began, and planted a vineyard.
And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his youngest son had done unto him.
And he said: Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.



We'll probably have to wait for the director's cut to see Russel Crowe naked, passed out drunk in a tent.

Or TMZ ;-)


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As an aside I think The last movie Crowe was good In was 3:10 to Yuma and that was in 2007.

I personally thought he was the worst part of an otherwise very very strong Les Miserables movie, but YMMV.

I really enjoyed The Wrestler.

 sebster wrote:

 Fafnir wrote:
Isn't Darren Aronofsky an atheist? This could make for a pretty interesting movie, depending on the directions he could take it in. For all we know, the trailer might have just been the studio attempting to appeal to the bible crowd.

Is he an atheist? That's pretty interesting, as he's made two films with really interesting religion themes, Pi and The Fountain. Not traditional religious themes by any means, but stuff it'd be pretty strange for a person to tackle if they had no religious belief at all.

Pretty much everything I've seen and heard regarding the subject states that he's an atheist.

Keep in mind that atheism only means a lack of belief in a deity. There are people who can be religious or spiritual atheists. Also note that you don't have to believe a religious story just to find it interesting and imaginative.

The Fountain is one of my absolute favourite movies, and none of his other works have failed to disappoint yet either, so I'll keep faith in this project for now.

Crowe was decent as computer AI Jor-El...

 cincydooley wrote:
I love the fountain. And it's soundtrack.

It took me a second viewing to really love The Fountain. First time around it was just a little too out there, second time around I just . And yeah, the soundtrack brings a lot to that movie, but most Aranofsky do. Gotta love some Sigur Ros.

And despite what it is, Passion isn't a bad movie. I don't know if it's great, but it isn't bad.

It wasn't an easy film for me to sit through, as his world view and mine are just miles apart. I found Gibson's misanthropy really distancing. But that doesn't make his film bad.... in fact far from it. I thought the film was a pretty terrific explanation of the way he saw the world and his faith, and in that sense I'd say it's a pretty good piece of art.

 sebster wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
I love the fountain. And it's soundtrack.

It took me a second viewing to really love The Fountain. First time around it was just a little too out there, second time around I just . And yeah, the soundtrack brings a lot to that movie, but most Aranofsky do. Gotta love some Sigur Ros.

Similar case here, as well. First time around, I didn't really get into it. A few years later, I watched it just because I remembered the soundtrack (which was by Clint Mansel, who's also worked on a lot of Aranofsky's other films, not Sigur Ros). It turned out being one of my absolute favourite films, and I've seen it many times after that.

I think i will stick with Perfect Storm for my "movies about a boat and big waves". I mean i lile a good fantasy story but prefer there to be at least a little plausability...

 sebster wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
I love the fountain. And it's soundtrack.

It took me a second viewing to really love The Fountain. First time around it was just a little too out there, second time around I just . And yeah, the soundtrack brings a lot to that movie, but most Aranofsky do. Gotta love some Sigur Ros.

You can't imagine how good it is hearing a fellow Dakkaite talk about Sigur Ros. Love those guys. They really are masters of their craft.

~Tim?

 sebster wrote:

Is he an atheist? That's pretty interesting, as he's made two films with really interesting religion themes, Pi and The Fountain. Not traditional religious themes by any means, but stuff it'd be pretty strange for a person to tackle if they had no religious belief at all.

The Wrestler also fits in that mold.

 dogma wrote:

 sebster wrote:

Is he an atheist? That's pretty interesting, as he's made two films with really interesting religion themes, Pi and The Fountain. Not traditional religious themes by any means, but stuff it'd be pretty strange for a person to tackle if they had no religious belief at all.

The Wrestler also fits in that mold.

Are you referring to the film's ending?

The theme of the movie.

Springteen's titular song refers to Rourke's character as a one trick pony, and repeatedly embraces that statement.

 dogma wrote:
The theme of the movie.

Springteen's titular song refers to Rourke's character as a one trick pony, and repeatedly embraces that statement.

Yeah, I get that but what does that have to do with religion?

Rourke's character gives everything to Wrestling. It is his craft, his identity; he is a wrestler. He sacrifices himself in the name of that identity; hard to get more religious than that.

 dogma wrote:
Rourke's character gives everything to Wrestling. It is his craft, his identity; he is a wrestler. He sacrifices himself in the name of that identity; hard to get more religious than that.

I see! So fething isn't just a hobby for me. It's my religion!

 dogma wrote:
Rourke's character gives everything to Wrestling. It is his craft, his identity; he is a wrestler. He sacrifices himself in the name of that identity; hard to get more religious than that.

Oh, OK makes sense I guess but wouldn't that mean that any story about a character becoming so dedicated to their craft to the point of harming themselves psychologically, medically and emotionally would have religious implications based on that criteria?

 dogma wrote:
Rourke's character gives everything to Wrestling. It is his craft, his identity; he is a wrestler. He sacrifices himself in the name of that identity; hard to get more religious than that.

Same with Black Swan. And in a way, Requiem for a Dream too.

It's almost as if all his movies are about characters who end up sacrificing a great deal of their lives and the world around them in the pursuit of some extremely dedicated, almost religious, ideal or desire.

It's like... he's trying to tell us something.

I've never watched Requiem for a Dream. I've heard that song about 100 times on Pandora, though...

The song itself is called 'Lux Aeterna.'

Although as far as tracks Clint Mansell has done for Aronofsky films, "Death is the Road to Awe" from The Fountain is his best, even if not as widespread.

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
Or you could try to improve your communication skills so you wouldn't have to spend so much time trying to get people to understand what you're saying.

~Tim?

I just want to jump in here and say that I got what he was saying. At least I think he did.

By "sanitized western bible" I assume he meant the fit-for-public-consumption blonde Jesus/baby cherubs/Charleton Heston/loving God/Easter Bunny pop culture gloss that many Christians seem to pick up and often think is accurate because they never finish reading the bible.

 kronk wrote:
I've never watched Requiem for a Dream. I've heard that song about 100 times on Pandora, though...

It's a brutal movie to watch.

But kronk, it does include the phrase "ass to ass" in it, so....might be right up your alley

Ellen Berstyn is amazing in it. So is Marlon Wayans. Hell, so is Leto.

Brutal to watch, but very good.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Ok, so apparently, this is including stuff left out from the sanitized western bible. Including but not limited tooo
Sex with angels, the offspring of sex with angel. The biblical representaion of angels, and alot of really disturbing stuff

Eating human-angel fetuses with ketchup, for breakfast ?
You can hardly get more disturbing than that. I mean, who could ever want to eat that for breakfast ?

Relapse wrote:
Sanitized? Read Genesis 34 sometime. Rape, self mutilation, and Genicide, and that's in just one chapter.

Precisely. If rape, self-mutilation and genocide made it into the sanitized version, what do you expect from the full version ?

 Perkustin wrote:
Alot of those attributes are those of Islamic 'Angels', the 'Giant ring of eyes' is definitely from the Koran, i guarantee it

Reference please. For giggles and requoting.

[edit]Oh, sorry, necroposted. I came here following a link in a sig, and I stupidly forgot to check the time.[/edit]