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Interesting to see these DLC being embraced while Forge World is shunned.
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Not just good, "prolly just jumped to the top of the paint queue behind Fateweaver good!"
Interesting to see these DLC being embraced while Forge World is shunned.
I'm very much pro-FW, but I can see how something coming direct from the parent company, even digitally, would be viewed differently than from FW if I weren't.
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It's a collaboration between BL & GWDigital. Fluff (40k version, at least, unsure if any of the fantasy stuff is new) by BL (I think) and rules by GWDigital
NoggintheNog wrote: If they are going to the trouble of making rules for him, perhaps they could also, you know, sell the model in places other than their own website.
I'd also question the 'end of finecast' rumour when they are charging £3 for rules to play something that in theory wont exist in 6 months time.
See, I think this gives credence to the rumours of the end of finecast - the best way to get rid of all your finecast stock is to make extra rules like this for the characters so that people go buy the models and exhaust the finecast stock. I'd say if you want an idea of what might be coming out over the next 24 days of advent, take a look at the finecast range and what's not been selling, and there you have your days of advent. Great way to shift stock before moving to all plastic, and boosting sales before Christmas.
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Sounds like an excellent strategy to secure profitability for the company going forward by creating a small impulse purchase category of digital product that takes effectively zero effort to create or distribute and, when combined with a marketing campaign based around xmas, should prove to be rather lucrative.
I congratulate GW on their novel efforts to generate superior dividend yields.
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I'm not really a fan of the Micro-transaction route for rules though.
Yeah that hit me right after I bought it that I just spent $5 for some fluff and 1 stat line. Future is dark and full of terrors if this continues.
Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
Sounds like an excellent strategy to secure profitability for the company going forward by creating a small impulse purchase category of digital product that takes effectively zero effort to create or distribute and, when combined with a marketing campaign based around xmas, should prove to be rather lucrative.
I congratulate GW on their novel efforts to generate superior dividend yields.
Exactly. Used to be lots of stuff like this got put into White Dwarf, alongside all the other stuff that might be in a single issue, and that was in a physical media that had to be made in real-life without driving the cost to more than in was, rather than a computer file.
Some companies would give out something as small as Belakor's file for free. Especially when it isn't anything even approaching part of their products that provide the profit margin. Either make it free or have it be a free update for the books it pertains to, because then it still requires a monetary investment to obtain.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
I'm not really a fan of the Micro-transaction route for rules though.
Yeah that hit me right after I bought it that I just spent $5 for some fluff and 1 stat line. Future is dark and full of terrors if this continues.
We used to do similar things to get a White Dwarf for the rules for one model. At least this one costs less than a white dwarf (unlike C: Inq)
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True. Just seems different with the digital stuff for some reason, its exactly the same as paying for the old chapter approved stuff.
C: Inquistor really should have been a WD thing. $35 for essentially 3 pages is kind of silly.
Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
Ravenous D wrote: True. Just seems different with the digital stuff for some reason, its exactly the same as paying for the old chapter approved stuff.
C: Inquistor really should have been a WD thing. $35 for essentially 3 pages is kind of silly.
There's no such thing as 'a WD thing' anymore. WD has been dead since the revamp (and dying for years before that).
I for one welcome my digital release overlord. It means that I can at least get my rules after they've been out for a couple months without having to sell a kidney. (I'm looking at you SOB WD Dex...)
In all seriousness, I think the big change is that people don't need to buy every book anymore like they might have done in 4th and 5th edition. This is much like in 3rd edition when owning every book was a little silly (I think we counted recently and there were 24 codexes and 36 armies in 3rd edition). AHa, found it. This list doesn't count individual white dwarf units of which there were quite a few in 3rd.
6th Edition - 21 Armies
Spoiler:
Inquisition Adepta Sororitas Space Marines Eldar Tau Empire Chaos Daemons Dark Angels Chaos Space Marines Clan Raukaan (Space Marines) Sentinels of Terra (Space Marines) Black Legion (Chaos Space Marines) Farsight Enclaves (Tau Empire) Iyanden (Eldar) Necrons Grey Knights Dark Eldar Blood Angels Tyranids Space Wolves Imperial Guard Orks
3rd edition - 36 Armies
Spoiler:
Eye of Terror (4 Army Lists, Lost and the Damned, Ulthwé Strike Force, Cadian Shock Troops, 13th Company) Armageddon (4 Army Lists, Black Templars, Salamanders, Speed Freeks, Armageddon Imperial Guard) Witch Hunters Imperial Guard (second version) Daemonhunters Chaos Space Marines (second version) Necrons *Dark Angels (updated second printing) Tau Tyranids *Craftworld Eldar *Space Wolves[5] *Catachans Imperial Guard (first version) Eldar Orks *Assassins Chaos Space Marines (first version) *Blood Angels Dark Eldar (original version) Space Marines Chapter Approved 2001 (2 Army Lists, Death Company, IG Armored) Chapter Approved 2003 (6 Army Lists. Feral Orks, Gaunt's Ghosts, Armageddon IG, City Fight IG, Kroot Mercs, Tyranid Seeding Swarms) Chapter Approved 2004 (1 New List. Feral Orks, IG Armored, Kroot Mercs, Tyranid Seeding Swarm, Cursed Foundings)
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Huh. The exact reason I like gaming in the era just after 4th dropped, because of all the variety of armies from 3rd.
"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
I love the new nasty for chaos. I would like to see rules like these BL digital ones all wrapped up in a nice $50 campaign supplement for 40k. There are already so many expansions for Apocalypse and new supplements with very little rules content being released all the time. it seems that there are enough digital rules floating about in the ether that the powers that be could actually compile an expansion worth my time/money. What is absolute FAIL about these releases is that they are so small that one could, with the permission of his friend, note down the tiny amount of special rules on a piece of scratch paper for later use. Just like this forum. pretty sure I have all the rules for be la'kor here...sticky note in my daemon codex. Merry x-mas to me. Remember that campaign codex that came out in like 2006....something about chaos..oh what was the name of it....something something darkside codex. They should release something like that again, but better with moar. I'd buy that.
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Got my warmachine mag and it had rules for upcoming miniatures, got my white dwarf and it had page and pages of explantions of their new releases and a hall of fame miniature that was released not long ago, i think i pass on this digital content.
I downloaded Belakor, and although I'm not enthused about having to pay to use him, I am glad I do have the rules to use him. It's a great model with now great rules and I'm okay with having to "pay to play". I've had to cut back on all sorts of hobbies I was dabbling in, and just concentrate on a select few. It was necessary and now I appreciate the increased focus.
pretre wrote: In all seriousness, I think the big change is that people don't need to buy every book anymore like they might have done in 4th and 5th edition. This is much like in 3rd edition when owning every book was a little silly (I think we counted recently and there were 24 codexes and 36 armies in 3rd edition).
3rd Ed required more books. A Codex, a sub-Codex and multiple issues of WD. How is this better? How does this encourage needing to own less things?
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Ravenous D wrote: Yeah that hit me right after I bought it that I just spent $5 for some fluff and 1 stat line. Future is dark and full of terrors if this continues.
Personally I don't like this one bit. As it's been pointed out this is essentially GW discovering DLC, which could end up being very bad if, like GW often does, they embrace all the worst aspects of it. It won't be long before GW gets the bright idea to start intentionally leaving content out of their overpriced $50 codex updates and introduces them as $5 downloads in the weeks following, and essentially doubles the price of a codex without having to put a scary $100 price sticker on the book. They'd love that gak.
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still better then 8$ for Flickr pics, FW , Black library and others news available on the web, 10 pages of adresses for shops around the world, a faulty Batrep and nothing concret...
rather pay 4$ for something i'm interessted in even if there isn't much more, then 8$ for a lot of things that has no interest.
DLC is the future I think. Less cost to make overerall, easier to do and with less labor involved. If enough people support it, it'll cement it's status. Will it ever fully replace paper books? I don't know, but for now it looks like they will both be made and sold.
As for 4$ for one character rule? For this awesome model, he'll yeah I'm in total agreement. Glad they released this. I now have more reason to use the model then just as a daemon prince.
Nice thing about it too? If you don't like, no one is forcing you to buy anything.
Laughing Man wrote: Unless you want to use that beautiful Belakor model you had from last edition. Then you totally need to buy this.
you can use him as a genenric demon prince. I have two in my chaos army they where my lash princes.
I bought it and am happy they released the rules. I really like the ibook GW rules and codex's. the only problem will be if they upgrade so i can't use my ipad 1 any more.
Be'lakor fitst the bill for what USED to be in WD. But even in 3rd they were coming out with comp books for all the rules in WD. I'm glad to see this. Now I can pick and choose what I want to buy and can completely forget picking up a WD. Remember, this kind of thing was exactly what people were calling for when the SoB:WD dex left the shelves.
pretre wrote: In all seriousness, I think the big change is that people don't need to buy every book anymore like they might have done in 4th and 5th edition. This is much like in 3rd edition when owning every book was a little silly (I think we counted recently and there were 24 codexes and 36 armies in 3rd edition).
3rd Ed required more books. A Codex, a sub-Codex and multiple issues of WD. How is this better? How does this encourage needing to own less things?
It doesn't. I'm saying it is a return to 3rd when people didn't feel the need to own every book (something that people did in 4th and 5th). You still need a bunch of stuff to play your army but you just buy the stuff that you need rather than everything.
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