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rollawaythestone wrote:
 ductvader wrote:
 Disturb3d wrote:
Boneswords are sadly now Ap 3 Str User with to wounds on 6s causing instant death.


Well dual bones word and rending claws with toxin could be a fantastic loadout


Yeah, they would get Rending, +1 attack for having two melee biomorphs, and Life Drain. Alongside poison. That's a nasty melee unit.


And ap2 on all instant death wounds

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 ductvader wrote:
rollawaythestone wrote:
 ductvader wrote:
 Disturb3d wrote:
Boneswords are sadly now Ap 3 Str User with to wounds on 6s causing instant death.


Well dual bones word and rending claws with toxin could be a fantastic loadout


Yeah, they would get Rending, +1 attack for having two melee biomorphs, and Life Drain. Alongside poison. That's a nasty melee unit.


And ap2 on all instant death wounds


Ok, that is nasty. If we can have a way to make Tyranid Warriors a bit more durable, they are going to be amazing with this loadout. Also, Hive Tyrants with Bonesword & Lashwhip, with Scything Talons is going to be a very nice combat brute.

Really liking the new rules for Boneswords, gives them a bit of flavour, and isn't too overpowered as it is a 1 in 6 chance.

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Quite odd that there's stilll no GW model for the mycetic spore.

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I guess that means we can rule out the rumor where just equipping Scything Talons gave +1 attack. Think they're still just re-roll hits?

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Yeah I prefer Heroic Killing Blow ( Instant Death on a 6 to wound) on Boneswords than the silly Ld check or die. Streamlines things nicely.


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Likely re-roll 1's to hit like they are currently. That they give Genestealers +1 attack when combo'd with their Rending Claws explains their point increase, and gives them a reason to be taken on MC's and Warriors in addition to other melee bio morphs.

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 spacewolf407 wrote:
Quite odd that there's stilll no GW model for the mycetic spore.


Beasts of war were saying it had been erased from existence... Err the codex.
   
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Exocrines are feared for their ability to deal death from afar.


GW, still blowing that smoke.

Start with just a codex, but I'm definitely eying the Swarm Box despite not really needing the gaunts. Just such a good value it's hard to pass up, and I can never have enough Fexes.

Edit: I have to believe Scything Talons will do something on their own, otherwise there is no reason to take the default Scything Talons / Deathspitters that come on Warriors, ever. The scything talons would be purely ornamental at that point. +1 attack per pair of melee biomorphs (so +1 for 1 set of scything, +2 for 2 sets) doesn't seem excessive to me, given how badly melee in general is gutted in 6th.

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Edit: I have to believe Scything Talons will do something on their own, otherwise there is no reason to take the default Scything Talons / Deathspitters that come on Warriors, ever. The scything talons would be purely ornamental at that point. +1 attack per pair of melee biomorphs (so +1 for 1 set of scything, +2 for 2 sets) doesn't seem excessive to me, given how badly melee in general is gutted in 6th.




The little blurb specifically said that Horm's don't get an extra attack from their 1 set of Scything talons. So, Scything Talons are likely unchanged (giving re-roll 1's to hit) and have only changed in that they can combo with other melee biomorphs to give a bonus attack.


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The Psychic cards also imply that we still have access to the BRB powers.

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They would also be ornamental on the hormagaunts used in the example in the BL preview.

I think this is just bringing Tyranids more into line with everyone else - their melee biomorphs are roughly equivalent to melee weapons in the other races, and they have actually short-circuited a huge set of rules arguments by saying a "pair" of scything talons only counts as one weapon - you need two pairs to get the bonus attack.

Edit: Ninja parade!

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 streamdragon wrote:
Exocrines are feared for their ability to deal death from afar.


GW, still blowing that smoke.
.

I'm still hoping that the 24" is only for one of the firing modes, and the other one is the longer range

   
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As the crushing claw is listed for no other infantry models...warriors especially...it's increasingly likely the tyrant guard are now mcs...I wouldn't doubt that hive guard are as well...

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rollawaythestone wrote:
 ductvader wrote:
 Disturb3d wrote:
Boneswords are sadly now Ap 3 Str User with to wounds on 6s causing instant death.


Well dual bones word and rending claws with toxin could be a fantastic loadout


Yeah, they would get Rending, +1 attack for having two melee biomorphs, and Life Drain. Alongside poison. That's a nasty melee unit.


That's assuming that you can stack rending claws and bonesword bonuses of course.


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Genestealers are no longer in elites to represent ygmarls.....but both carnifex kit and old one eye kit are there is it possible we lodt then as well?

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 Carnage43 wrote:
rollawaythestone wrote:
 ductvader wrote:
 Disturb3d wrote:
Boneswords are sadly now Ap 3 Str User with to wounds on 6s causing instant death.


Well dual bones word and rending claws with toxin could be a fantastic loadout


Yeah, they would get Rending, +1 attack for having two melee biomorphs, and Life Drain. Alongside poison. That's a nasty melee unit.


That's assuming that you can stack rending claws and bonesword bonuses of course.



Naturally, that's how it currently stands...it could change...but I doubt it personally...scytals or Rends or boneswords or crushing claws...figuring out combat gets messy real fast.

I wouldn't worry...that a loadout as above might possibly cost 50-55 points.a model...not going to dominate every game...but a decent deathstar

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Nidmageddon for Rumor Mongers has started. Just off of the pre-releases:

Natfka
True 10
False 28
PT/V 2

Larry Vela aka Big Red from BOLS
True 4
False 36


Stickmonkey
True 6
False 6
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 pretre wrote:
Nidmageddon for Rumor Mongers has started. Just off of the pre-releases:

Natfka
True 10
False 28
PT/V 2

Larry Vela aka Big Red from BOLS
True 4
False 36


Stickmonkey
True 6
False 6
PT/V 4


Well I enjoy natfka for the speed and sheer quantity of information more than accuracy. Maybe he's got a tornado of rumors but the truth is always in there somewhere

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 ductvader wrote:
Well I enjoy natfka for the speed and sheer quantity of information more than accuracy. Maybe he's got a tornado of rumors but the truth is always in there somewhere

Not to get too off track here, but Natfka only gets to the truth in the same way that a blind dartplayer gets to a bullseye. Volume of fire.

The problem with this is that he puts out so much crap that there is no way to know what's what. It makes him pretty useless as a source and only really good as a news aggregator from more reliable mongers.

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Quite odd that there's stilll no GW model for the mycetic spore.


Totally gone then?
I cant believe it

I mean, it opens up so many options for the Tyranids.
In a way they could/would be as pod able as SMs. - maybe even more according to the fluff.

Im agog!

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 Ratius wrote:
Quite odd that there's stilll no GW model for the mycetic spore.


Totally gone then?
I cant believe it

I mean, it opens up so many options for the Tyranids.
In a way they could/would be as pod able as SMs. - maybe even more according to the fluff.

Im agog!

I'm still holding out hope that it's in the codex as a rule, i.e. this unit can purchase a mycetic spore and gains the Deep Strike rule. Up until last edition they were supposed to disintegrate on impact anyway.

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Me too!

Dman137 wrote:
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Apoc formations are interesting...looks like hive guard.can guard a tyrant...speculation.

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Don't think anyone has pointed it out yet, but in the Harpy/Crone description on the GW, it says you get 3 spore mines and 4 tentaclids as well as the parts for the Harpy/Crone.

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Makes sense...crone has tentacled sand if the harpy's flyby bomb misses it spawns d3 mines

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 pretre wrote:
 ductvader wrote:
Well I enjoy natfka for the speed and sheer quantity of information more than accuracy. Maybe he's got a tornado of rumors but the truth is always in there somewhere

Not to get too off track here, but Natfka only gets to the truth in the same way that a blind dartplayer gets to a bullseye. Volume of fire.

The problem with this is that he puts out so much crap that there is no way to know what's what. It makes him pretty useless as a source and only really good as a news aggregator from more reliable mongers.


I expected more from you Pretre. How come you attacking Natfka as a rumour source? He doesn't give out rumours, he just collects them. So while it's a lot he gives, he NEVER takes credit for them.

How come you are shooting the messenger?

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Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

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Davor wrote:
 pretre wrote:
 ductvader wrote:
Well I enjoy natfka for the speed and sheer quantity of information more than accuracy. Maybe he's got a tornado of rumors but the truth is always in there somewhere

Not to get too off track here, but Natfka only gets to the truth in the same way that a blind dartplayer gets to a bullseye. Volume of fire.

The problem with this is that he puts out so much crap that there is no way to know what's what. It makes him pretty useless as a source and only really good as a news aggregator from more reliable mongers.


I expected more from you Pretre. How come you attacking Natfka as a rumour source? He doesn't give out rumours, he just collects them. So while it's a lot he gives, he NEVER takes credit for them.

How come you are shooting the messenger?


Secret Natfka account spotted.

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I think we are getting off track. . . *watches the skies for a Mod. . . *

Hmmm so Warriors. . . What are the going opinions atm? Still not worth it or maybe worth the time?

   
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Depends on how much S8 you face I guess. For me? Not worth it. Too many missiles, power fists and tau.
   
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 Lysenis wrote:
I think we are getting off track. . . *watches the skies for a Mod. . . *

Hmmm so Warriors. . . What are the going opinions atm? Still not worth it or maybe worth the time?



In my opinion, it is still to be determined. If their weapon options are effective and they have good support from the other aspects of the book, they may be especially useful. Here's waiting to see what Synapse does. The heavy weapons may be especially good, making Warrior broods attractive to pack in the heavies.

   
 
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