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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 14:03:28
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
Brantford, Ontario
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You may argue oh im only 1 point over whats the big deal, Its more the principle of the thing. 25 points over or 1 point over, your still over, so whats the point of having a limit if you wont follow it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 14:06:18
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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If someone is tossing a list together at the table I allow more flex then if they have a pre-built one. I'd rather start playing then wait 15 minutes for you to tweak your list. If it's a planned game, and we set the point limit weeks ago, I expect you to be under it. Any list I make will be at/under the points.
But I'm easy, and don't get many games in. So I'll forgive a lot. But no more then 5 points. I'm also more forgiving for strict WYSWYG players, fresh paint, and new guys.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 14:06:25
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Thane of Dol Guldur
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Can't stand it when I hear "Is 1510 OK?" "Is 2010 OK?"
No, take a Marine off the board. Take 2 Boyz off the board. It's not rocket science!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 14:08:00
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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0. You can be as many points under as you like, but a limit is a limit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 14:10:41
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Screaming Shining Spear
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I find that if people need more points than allowed it is because they are trying to Min/Max things too much for a friendly game.
So we do 0 over. Come and play at the points, it's just a fun game.
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Farseer Faenyin
7,100 pts Yme-Loc Eldar(Apoc Included) / 5,700 pts (Non-Apoc)
Record for 6th Edition- Eldar: 25-4-2
Record for 7th Edition -
Eldar: 0-0-0 (Yes, I feel it is that bad)
Battlefleet Gothic: 2,750 pts of Craftworld Eldar
X-wing(Focusing on Imperials): CR90, 6 TIE Fighters, 4 TIE Interceptors, TIE Bomber, TIE Advanced, 4 X-wings, 3 A-wings, 3 B-wings, Y-wing, Z-95
Battletech: Battlion and Command Lance of 3025 Mechs(painted as 21st Rim Worlds) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 20:14:19
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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0.
A limit is a limit, not a suggestion. If you want to play 1505 instead of 1500, then tell your opponent so he can add a meltabomb or swap out a meltagun for a plasma gun in a squad.
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 20:27:05
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Its got to be not to say I haven't flexed in friendly games but I prefer not to because even 1 point can make a difference. How you ask? Well that 1 point gave my hammerhead a bsf and allowed me to shoot you through 2 turns of night fight with an ion pie plate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 20:35:19
Subject: Re:Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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I see little wrong of maybe 2 points.
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DC:90+S+G++MB++I--Pww211+D++A++/fWD390R++T(F)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 20:55:12
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Usually between 5 and 10.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 21:19:19
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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I picked up to 25, although I've never met anyone who wanted to go more than 20 over. If it something really significant, we just tend to agree to add 50 points or so to both lists, so a 1500 would become 1550 ect. I'm generally not that bothered by it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 21:27:10
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Fixture of Dakka
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If they ask, and they've got a good reason for it - like only having expensive units painted, or they've got a good theme, then I don't have a limit.
If they just roll up and say "By the way, I'm 5 points over", no deal. But then, I don't play 40k against strangers or bell-ends, so that's not an issue.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 22:11:48
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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Up to 5, I don't care.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/18 22:39:25
Subject: Re:Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Lord of the Fleet
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Zero.
Hard and fast. If its no big deal for you to play over the limit, it surely shouldn't be one to play under the limit.
*Assuming a random pick up game, though I'd encourage any and all of my friends to play under the limit within reason.
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Mordian Iron Guard - Major Overhaul in Progress
+Spaceship Gaming Enthusiast+
Live near Halifax, NS? Ask me about our group, the Ordo Haligonias! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 02:34:48
Subject: Re:Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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I have to wonder, for all those being adamant about the limit being the limit and no going over, how many of you exceed the speed limit while driving?
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 03:11:25
Subject: Re:Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Stormin' Stompa
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Tannhauser42 wrote:I have to wonder, for all those being adamant about the limit being the limit and no going over, how many of you exceed the speed limit while driving?
I certainly do....but if I am pulled over I am not stupid enough to say to the cop; "But it is only 5 miles over. It is no big deal!".......I broke the rules and I know it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 03:20:58
Subject: Re:Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Dakka Veteran
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Tannhauser42 wrote:I have to wonder, for all those being adamant about the limit being the limit and no going over, how many of you exceed the speed limit while driving?
How often do you compete with or play games with other drivers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 03:34:12
Subject: Re:Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 03:35:58
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Fixture of Dakka
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If they miscalculated a bit, and accidentally went over 50 or 100 points I'm not going to deny myself a game. I always welcome a challenge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 03:36:39
Subject: Re:Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Morphing Obliterator
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I always try to go slightly under, my current best is getting an army to go to 499 points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 04:12:09
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
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Generally I use it as an opportunity to up my own list.
Your'e 4 points over? That is fine, I'll toss a flamer in this squad for 5 points and it'll be good.
They can't really object to me having more points than them when they were just trying to do the same.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 05:15:12
Subject: Re:Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I'd like to propose the Reroll Math houserule:
You grant your opponent a number of rerolls, each allowed once per game for any test, equal to the number of points by which you exceed the limit.
Watch people jump into line.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 05:18:51
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I allow no more than 10pts over.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 09:21:32
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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If someone was throwing a list together on the table, I'd be willing to allow a slight variance of maybe 5ish points to expedite the process - especially if it was for WYSIWYG.
Pre-planned lists (99.9% of all my games) it's zero tolerance.
If someone has new toys and is struggling to make the limit I'm always happy to take 20mins and increase the points limit for all players by whatever is appropriate (e.g. +250 each)
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- 10,000+ (since 1994)
- 5000 (since 1996)
Harlequins/Ynnari -2500
Empire - 3000 (Current build)
Dwarves - Old and desperately in need of updating |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 12:04:18
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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In the past I've always played where < 10 over is generally considered fine, due to how some things are priced. Even some old WD Battle Reports had like a 2,000 point army that was like 2,006 points, and nobody cared. Obviously if you can drop an upgrade or something and go under, then do that, but if not then a couple of points over isn't a big deal IMO.
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- Wayne
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 12:21:48
Subject: Re:Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Terrifying Wraith
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My limit is 1 point less than their cheapest upgrade. Ie: if you are over by 5 and you have meltabombs, just drop em.
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Fantasy: 4000 - WoC, 1500 - VC, 1500 - Beastmen
40k: 2000 - White Scars
Hordes: 5/100 - Circle of Orboros
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 15:37:56
Subject: Re:Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Kiwidru wrote:My limit is 1 point less than their cheapest upgrade. Ie: if you are over by 5 and you have meltabombs, just drop em.
A good, overall rule. Altough it doesn't really hurt someone to play with only 999 poinrs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 15:44:14
Subject: Re:Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
Adelaide, South Australia
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When I'm building a list and it reaches 1501 points, I will drop something to get it below 1500, even if it takes me down to 1496 or even 1491, I expect my opponents to do the same.
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Ailaros wrote:You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.
I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.
"Long ago in a distant land, I, M'kar, the shape-shifting Master of Chaos, unleashed an unspeakable evil! But a foolish Grey Knight warrior wielding a magic sword stepped forth to oppose me. Before the final blow was struck, I tore open a portal in space and flung him into the Warp, where my evil is law! Now the fool seeks to return to real-space, and undo the evil that is Chaos!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 15:53:18
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Morphing Obliterator
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I try to stick to limits in all my lists as much as possible but I guess if it is 1-5pts over then it is no big deal.
If there is an obvious 5 pt upgrade in my list then I will drop it as nothing of that value can be too game changing can it?
If I do need that upgrade I will drop something else to keep it in and get back under the limit.
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Chaos Space Marines - Iron Warriors & Night Lords 7900pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 16:02:34
Subject: Re:Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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Always at or under, unless I'm playing with someone who is basically doing a low point first game and playing with what they got.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/19 16:08:00
Subject: Points values - how much over will you allow?
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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Honestly, a more interesting question isn't how many points over do you allow, but in what situations do you object to a person being even a single point over?
Meaning, when would you shrug and play anyway, when would you demand they change the list to get back under?
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