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 loreweaver wrote:

 zephoid wrote:

2x catapults or 2x spinners on DA or WS exarchs (TL BS5... why am i paying for this)

On the Spider Exarch, if he's got fast shot too, that's 3 twin-linked attempts to hit a Flier.

On average that's 1 hit. Which is more than decent for a single non-skyfire model.

Krak Grenades for Guard Heavy Weapons Teams. Can't take a Vox or Sergeant for that leadership and Orders boost, but they can take Krak grenades just because.

WangoFett wrote:
Ichor blood (CSM). Has it ever been chosen?

Agreed Feth That Gak

 Madcat87 wrote:
Condemner boltguns.

They went for possibly broken as all hell to being useless once again in a couple weeks.

Broken as all hell? It was actually good for those few weeks, worth taking for once. It's still an AP - S5 shot that only has one job.

Night vision on a swooping hawk exarch. There are times this will come into play, but they are beyond rare.

The Armour Indomitus for Space Marines. Hilariously expensive, and available only to models which already have access to some combination of artificer armour, Terminator armour, built-in invulnerable saves, and/or bikes. One phase of 2++ saves isn't worth the 20+ points' premium you'll be spending over normal wargear.

Aura of dark glory is a nice option sometimes. How ever you can take it on a Daemon prince. Who has the daemon rule giving him a 5++ already.

Burst cannons on Hammerheads. Free to swap them out for SMS which are much better. I honestly question who ever wrote that and thought it was okay.

warpsword on a soul grinder.. why??

Honorable mention - Lhamean in an archon's court.

She makes all the archon's poisoned weapons 2+. The only ones he has access to are a venom blade (2+ already) and a splinter pistol, which is normally 4+. Not useless, but pretty close.

Envenomed blades on DE vehicles are also rather laughable, as is most of the wargear list.

We've gone this far without mentioning the dimensional key? Now THAT is useless.

As far as ridiculous goes, all those Tau buffmander/Crisis suit upgrades are ridiculously OP. You can just slap basically every special rule you want on every unit all at once.


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 Musashi363 wrote:
We've gone this far without mentioning the dimensional key? Now THAT is useless.

Yeah, that is probably the worst thought out piece of wargear in the game. I can maybe see it being worth it if the unit didn't have to kill something in cc. Even then it would still be pretty pointless.

KommissarKiln wrote:Commissars in a CCS for IG. Honestly, paying 35 points, I believe, on another squishy model that can give your opponent Slay the Warlord if you fail a morale check unless you have some other Ld 10 HQ.

Commissar: *BLAM* "COWARDICE REQUIRES SUMMARY EXECUTION!"
Guardsman in squad: "Commissar... That was Creed! THAT WAS CREEEEEEEEED!"
(Gunfire ensues, transmission cut off)

You cannot get commissars in CCSs; you can attach a Lord commissar but that is your own tactical mistake

Likan Wolfsheim wrote:Taking hellfury missiles on a Vendetta always struck me as really, really silly. Especially since a Valkyrie with rocket pods costs about the same and can keep firing the pods. They aren't quite as good as the hellfury missiles, but they're not one-shot (then again, taking a Valkyrie over a Vendetta is also silly from a competitive standpoint).

Hellfury and Hellfire missiles are both bad, they confuse the roles of the fliers. Basically Valks and Vends are both 130 points, and have different jobs. I do play with my Valkyrie about as often as with my Vendetta depending on whether I have a quadgun(and with Stronghold assault I am likely to have several).

I would otherwise parrot many of the responses already posted, biggest offender is Digi Weapons on the brotherhood champ, completely and utterly redundant.

Not that I'm liable to run Chosen anyways, but...
Double Lightning Claws for 30 points.
Really? Double the cost of a single claw for a single extra attack? Nice job there guys.

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:

Any Necron weapon other then the Warscythe

This made me laugh.

ghost glaive on a wraithknight looked useless.

 Fafnir13 wrote:
Not that I'm liable to run Chosen anyways, but...
Double Lightning Claws for 30 points.
Really? Double the cost of a single claw for a single extra attack? Nice job there guys.

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If you go that route, the whole points cost of the weapons for Chosen are bonkers.

Also a "useless" option for Zerkers, 2 plasma pistols, while plasma pistols are nice and all, at a 15pts pop on a 1W guy, and with no special CCW options, thats one of the stupidest thing i've ever seen.

Oh and the Icone of Nurgle for the plague is also nice,...giving a rule that 50% of the armies just ignores, yeah that a well spent 15pts.

Power scourge on Defiler...25pts for a S8 thing while you allreadu are S10, and on something that allrady cost 195pts...

Deamon of khorne on a DPrince...yeah Houza!, i have FC on a MC!

 Slayer le boucher wrote:

 Fafnir13 wrote:
Not that I'm liable to run Chosen anyways, but...
Double Lightning Claws for 30 points.
Really? Double the cost of a single claw for a single extra attack? Nice job there guys.

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If you go that route, the whole points cost of the weapons for Chosen are bonkers.

Also a "useless" option for Zerkers, 2 plasma pistols, while plasma pistols are nice and all, at a 15pts pop on a 1W guy, and with no special CCW options, thats one of the stupidest thing i've ever seen.

Oh and the Icone of Nurgle for the plague is also nice,...giving a rule that 50% of the armies just ignores, yeah that a well spent 15pts.

Power scourge on Defiler...25pts for a S8 thing while you allreadu are S10, and on something that allrady cost 195pts...

Deamon of khorne on a DPrince...yeah Houza!, i have FC on a MC!

Well if you don't want to smash I figure the extra FC isn't too bad.

Though if we go by Icons, Icon of Flame: more expensive then fear and just as worthless.

The plasma Pistols have been costed that way since 2nd/3rd, where I figure they made sense back then.

Mind, the Icons also gives +1 to combat resolution. It allowed my Chosen to run down a Boyz mob who assaulted them once, instead of being stuck in combat one more turn.

Well worth the little investment.

Icon of Flame is just depressing though.

Doesn't the Demon Prince for the chaos space marine codex not need Aura of Dark Glory since he is already a demon and thus benefits from a 5+ invulnerable save?

My nomination for most useless piece of wargear: the chainsword... Not statline benefit, no ap, no parry (see 2nd Ed) and for all intents and purposes gamewise it is as lethal a ccw (rusty screwdriver) or a pistolwhip from equipped pistol.... Why? I feel the chainsword should be str 4(user) whichever is higher, and AP5. I would like to see the parry rule come back also but right now I am happy enough at the possibility of pistol use in cc coming back(cypher).

barnowl wrote:
Nid Stranglewebs, S2 AP- Template that wounds against Strength. 10PT upgrade to a bolt pistol equivalent.

Agree, but centurions are the pits for me, don't care if they are good on the field they are totally unforgivably bad.

Centurions?, the T5 W2 2+ Sm stuffs with Gravguns OR Siege drills that hit at S9 AP2 Init4?

Okay they don't have an invul save, but there is lots of ways to hand them an invul or cover save.

The only thing that did save my models vs those was because Kharn was involved in the combat and slaugthered them all, or else my squad would have just vanished.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Centurions?, the T5 W2 2+ Sm stuffs with Gravguns OR Siege drills that hit at S9 AP2 Init4?

Okay they don't have an invul save, but there is lots of ways to hand them an invul or cover save.

The only thing that did save my models vs those was because Kharn was involved in the combat and slaugthered them all, or else my squad would have just vanished.

But they look like a four year old drew them with ketchup and a squeeze bottle.

The GK Plasma Siphone thingy... interesting if nothing else.

Shroud of Heroes from the Dark Angels Codex. Shrouded when alone (yeah, solo HQs are the best) and FNP... When would you ever use that thing?

Ascalam 570647 6389888 873e1483a2a0453a8ced0454483c3e02.jp wrote: Lhamean in an archon's court.

She makes all the archon's poisoned weapons 2+. The only ones he has access to are a venom blade (2+ already) and a splinter pistol, which is normally 4+. Not useless, but pretty close.

Envenomed blades on DE vehicles are also rather laughable, as is most of the wargear list.

To be fair she is a 10pt model who comes with a 5pt weapon and an Eldar stat-line as well as an *almost* useless ability, there are worse ways to spend 10 pts. Say, on giving the Icon of Nurgle to possessed. All the pointlessness of the Icon of Nurgle combined with the fact that they *already* cause fear!

It's not so much her uselessness as a model, so much as the fact her special ability is so fething useless.

Icon of Nurgle on chosen is worse, i'll grant you.

Auspex. Great, a crummy markerlight with a 12" range that only HQ choices can take. Why?

People have already mentioned Ichor Blood, the 2 awful icons, Aura for DP, as well as hilariously expensive Warp Talon Champs. I always wondered why Axe of Blind Fury grants rage, yet requires the MoK to wield (which grants rage).

Because a Khorne DP doesn't have rage, so it gives it to him.

While i agree it should have given something else if the model allready has rage, like prefered ennemy or Rampage...

 j31c3n wrote:
Auspex. Great, a crummy markerlight with a 12" range that only HQ choices can take. Why?

I've seen it used when trying to fill those last few points. Seen it used also when the HQ couldn't assault or it would be a bad idea too, but lowering the cover saves would be more beneficial towards shooting.

Liking the growing list guys!